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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 12:44:55 GMT -5
I saw that Southern California is under an earthquake watch. I was wondering, how many of you take it seriously or how many prepare? How does one prepare for an earthquake? Is it just about having supplies? I have to worry about hurricanes. I don't pay attention to the news so much as I do NOAA . I like to judge the risk myself. I've been pretty good about it, so far. I'm watching Matthew right now. Could be bad one.
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Post by captbob on Oct 3, 2016 13:02:53 GMT -5
How does one prepare for an earthquake?
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 13:06:38 GMT -5
How does one prepare for an earthquake? I remember those drills for a nuke attack. Elementary school was never more innocent..... But, that's for during an earthquake. What do you do to prepare if you are told one is likely going to happen?
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Post by Pat on Oct 3, 2016 13:09:24 GMT -5
Yes, check supplies, refresh memory about turning off gas, water, contact family. However, truthfully, I don't do all that. We know to stand in the doorway, or go outside away from things that could fall (trees, lamp posts). Grab purse.
However 2, glass or other delicate breakable items get Earthquake gunk so they don't move if knocked ; nothing is on a pedestal. Ever. Except for traffic, an earthquake has never really inconvenienced us. The Loma Prieta Earthquake (1989) shook a few things (2 items) off the shelves. Getting home from work downtown was interesting. Was working on 11th floor. Our kids were in college. Different preps if kids little.
Watching the earth surface undulate is mesmerizing.
If Southern California is under earthquake watch, we should be aware as well. Can't move a rock from the pile without dislocating nearby rocks as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 13:25:09 GMT -5
Meh
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 13:26:22 GMT -5
I suppose I should stock up on pellets for my 22cal food getter, in case grocery stores and restaurants can't get food delivered.
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 13:27:37 GMT -5
Yes, check supplies, refresh memory about turning off gas, water, contact family. However, truthfully, I don't do all that. We know to stand in the doorway, or go outside away from things that could fall (trees, lamp posts). Grab purse. However 2, glass or other delicate breakable items get Earthquake gunk so they don't move if knocked ; nothing is on a pedestal. Ever. Except for traffic, an earthquake has never really inconvenienced us. The Loma Prieta Earthquake (1989) shook a few things (2 items) off the shelves. Getting home from work downtown was interesting. Was working on 11th floor. Our kids were in college. Different preps if kids little. Watching the earth surface undulate is mesmerizing. If Southern California is under earthquake watch, we should be aware as well. Can't move a rock from the pile without dislocating nearby rocks as well. Thanks Pat. I figured it must be a lot like hurricane preparedness with xtras. I should have included the link www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-02/heightened-earthquake-alert-issued-for-southern-californiaA few years ago, we had an earthquake here in VA. It was so weird! It was completely surreal. I felt the floor move and the hanging lights were swinging.... very strange for this part of the country. I thought to go out into the street and then it stopped.
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 13:50:33 GMT -5
We had a small cat 1-2 come over us one year. We lost power for more than a week. I will never ever be as under prepared again. I am so ready now. In fact, I am ready for anything now. One of the most important things I learned is that after a hurricane blows through, it is likely to be hot and muggy. I have 5 battery operated fans now. One is a big 12v fan for a kennel car. There are few things worse than sitting in your own sweat for days on end. Cold showers only go so far. I have batteries, rechargeable batteries, solar panels, power packs for storing the power from the panels and plenty of food, water and light and yes, ammo.
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Post by captbob on Oct 3, 2016 14:08:50 GMT -5
I don't see a generator on your list. (or a bomb shelter to be ready for "anything") You have enough solar / battery storage to run refrigerator? That is impressive.
Have 2 generators, and store enough gas to run the smaller Honda 2000i 12 hours a day for about 2 months.
Wish I could have solar, but too many trees in my yard. Probably a good thing, because I would want a battery bank to make a submarine jealous!
Keep the fridge/freezer and some fans running and I'm a happy camper. Could run TV or computer, but if power is down, what is there to have them for other than DVDs?
Much rather have a hurricane than an earthquake!
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 14:26:58 GMT -5
No generator and I'll tell you why.... We did some research about after-emergency situations and found that people with generators are easy targets. It's true, we are armed, but we also are not looking for trouble. I live in a city- a high population density environment. 100's of people (or more) would hear our generator. We have food canned up in jars. Don't need the freezer. Before a storm, we use up what we can and freeze 2 liters. It stays cold a good long time if you don't keep opening it. My stove is not electric, it's gas with nothing electric. The kind you use off grid. I have a huge gas tank that we keep full. (Besides the multi fuel camp stoves we have.) We tried to live off grid, as an experiment, for a week. We did well. I even have some things put away in faraday cages, including a 10 13 inch solar capable laptop with all my bug out manuals on it. We have alcohol, toilet paper and tobacco for trade, too. We are ready. I won't even go into some things - it wouldn't be prudent.
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Post by captbob on Oct 3, 2016 15:18:46 GMT -5
Sister! Sounds like you are also ready for far more than a silly ol' hurricane.
The Honda 2000i is amazingly quiet. Dead calm and maybe two houses away could hear the hum. Sound barrier(s) could probably lessen that distance. Can carry on a conversation standing right next to it. It is also a pure sine wave generator, good for running more delicate electronic components. I would only run it during the day (naturally noisier time) to keep fridge cool and making ice and charge up batteries. Actually figure 4+ hours a day would do what I need. May not need to do that for long as most here is also long term storage supplies. But would be nice to keep batteries charged for night time power inverter use. Envy your solar.
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Post by Shannon on Oct 3, 2016 15:56:14 GMT -5
Various sites report on supposedly imminent and devastating earthquakes that will shred any houses remotely near the San Andreas fault all the time to be honest. I know we're "overdue" for a devastating earthquake but we've been overdue for a century.. most residents along the fault are used to the paranoia/hysteria. And most people here I know have some form of emergency rations and supplies but when it comes to warnings they're met with a resounding "meh". The '89 earthquake gave my mother mild PTSD, so it'd be nice if another significant one didn't happen until after she moves up to Montana permanently. I myself usually sleep through them!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 3, 2016 16:26:09 GMT -5
Not so much worried about earthquakes, have been around for numerous smaller ones. A non-issue. The "big one" might not happen for another two hundred years. Or it could happen tomorrow, or this afternoon. I won't lose any sleep worrying about something that is only remotely possible.
I am more concerned with a race war. I am more afraid of that than a nuclear war or a civil war (people against the gubment). Never underestimate stupid.
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Post by captbob on Oct 3, 2016 16:32:42 GMT -5
stack 'em 5 high and use 'em for sandbags
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Post by Pat on Oct 3, 2016 16:45:11 GMT -5
rockjunquie we don't even notice them anymore until they are at least a category 4. I've lived in California all my life. If I am not sure we are having a quake, I just look at the chains hanging from the ceiling fans. Agree with Scott, it is mostly "meh".
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Post by metalsmith on Oct 3, 2016 16:55:27 GMT -5
Earthquakes and predictability ... an oxymoron. The more earthquakes - the greater the lessening of stress. But even inverse correlation fails to produce a significant r^2. A good example is Italy, where recently the seismologists were taken to court for failing to predict a killer. link. Another Italian killer just happened again. It is a notorious conundrum that has transcended earth sciences and even the maths / ML community can't get to grips with it. It is something that I studied recently as a case in point that despite plenty of data there is no strength in any of the relationships. Similarly warnings. It just shows the authorities don't understand what they're dealing with: shock waves. Travel almost as quickly as the warning. I'm not sure how useful a 3 second warning will be. Maybe just enough. If the purpose of such a system is purely to placate the public, then great...
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 16:55:33 GMT -5
rockjunquie we don't even notice them anymore until they are at least a category 4. I've lived in California all my life. If I am not sure we are having a quake, I just look at the chains hanging from the ceiling fans. Agree with Scott, it is mostly "meh". I lived in CA when I was a kid and I do remember them. My mother was from Maine and didn't know what an earthquake was. Dad was from CA, so no big deal for him. Mom used to flip out when we had small earthquakes. I remember lots of things falling and breaking. I have always heard that Californians have the "meh" attitude and humor about earthquakes as a kind of gallows humor and anxious indifference. Like, there's nothing you can really do, so why worry. Better to fight off a general anxiety with humor. That's just what I've read, anyway.
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 3, 2016 17:01:41 GMT -5
Earthquakes and predictability ... an oxymoron. The more earthquakes - the greater the lessening of stress. But even inverse correlation fails to produce a significant r^2. A good example is Italy, where recently the seismologists were taken to court for failing to predict a killer. link. Another Italian killer just happened again. It is a notorious conundrum that has transcended earth sciences and even the maths / ML community can't get to grips with it. It is something that I studied recently as a case in point that despite plenty of data there is no strength in any of the relationships. Similarly warnings. It just shows the authorities don't understand what they're dealing with: shock waves. Travel almost as quickly as the warning. I'm not sure how useful a 3 second warning will be. Maybe just enough. If the purpose of such a system is purely to placate the public, then great... I think a few seconds warning could get your ass outside. You could almost say the same thing about tornadoes. They are getting better about predictions and warnings, no doubt, but I still ignore most warnings. Overkill. For every thunderstorm, they are sending out warnings. Honestly, what can you do if a tornado is barreling down on you? I don't have a cellar. When I lived in Florida, a tornado came through the neighborhood and took out almost every other house. It put a VW on someone's roof, but the house it came from was fine. You just can't prepare for that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 17:52:57 GMT -5
Earthquakes and predictability ... an oxymoron. The more earthquakes - the greater the lessening of stress. But even inverse correlation fails to produce a significant r^2. A good example is Italy, where recently the seismologists were taken to court for failing to predict a killer. link. Another Italian killer just happened again. It is a notorious conundrum that has transcended earth sciences and even the maths / ML community can't get to grips with it. It is something that I studied recently as a case in point that despite plenty of data there is no strength in any of the relationships. Similarly warnings. It just shows the authorities don't understand what they're dealing with: shock waves. Travel almost as quickly as the warning. I'm not sure how useful a 3 second warning will be. Maybe just enough. If the purpose of such a system is purely to placate the public, then great... It's not about coping by humour. It's 50+ years of earthquake experience. I cant be bothered with going too deep into preparedness when I've been thru so many. The highest one, shut down many people and a huge area for many months. Even they were a small % of people. Plus, my home is on a huge sand bed. Earthquakes feel like I'm on a water bed. Not the sharp jolt one feels on bedrock. I am confident. For better or worse. I'm confident!
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Post by jakesrocks on Oct 3, 2016 18:05:24 GMT -5
When a goodun hits, it does make a certain part of the anatomy pucker tho, doesn't it.
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