Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 11, 2016 15:08:53 GMT -5
Just a couple more for today....Mel Plume cut the wrong way cause I couldn't cut it the right way *L* Another unlucky plume cut. Got these two slabs that were pretty good: But of course, the best plume is left in the heel *L* And finally George West wood. It's a shrinkie but I could not get off even a single slab as the darn face was too slanted for the blade to bite.
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Post by NDK on Oct 11, 2016 17:49:35 GMT -5
Those are all super nice Mel. Have you tried glueing the rocks to hunks of wood? Probably get more slabs and although I've not done it, I would imagine you could vary the angle of the rock, allowing the blade to bite.
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 11, 2016 18:40:33 GMT -5
Used to do that once and awhile Nate. Also used a couple of different slab grabbers. Too much rock, too little time and too lazy to mess with it these days. Just cut 'em a bit and I gets what I gets *S*.....Mel
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Post by jamesp on Oct 11, 2016 18:55:19 GMT -5
So would this be cutting a plume across the 'trunk' vs a lumber cut down the trunk ? I have cut Rio's that look like that. Looked like funky palm when the dots are equally distributed. Had a discussion with a Texan(Mrs. Woodward) about cutting plumes but had no idea what she was saying. Me new to agate at the time. The time I visited the Woodward Ranch she was not well as she had just lost her husband. She was alone and a bit down and out. seemed overwhelmed and wanting to sell the ranch. Assuming she still owns it.
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 11, 2016 19:34:37 GMT -5
Yep, In most Texas nodules of the biscuit type, the plume runs, not always, but mainly, parallel to the top and bottom of the nodule. These are cut across the plume which usually makes those fluffy looking structures. Course, this one was full skin so, as is often the case, I really did not know for sure it was a plume nodule....Mel
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Post by jamesp on Oct 12, 2016 7:18:24 GMT -5
Yep, In most Texas nodules of the biscuit type, the plume runs, not always, but mainly, parallel to the top and bottom of the nodule. These are cut across the plume which usually makes those fluffy looking structures. Course, this one was full skin so, as is often the case, I really did not know for sure it was a plume nodule....Mel Got it. Reading the skin too. Got the biscuit thing too. I know I ask too many questions but why the biscuit formation ? When collecting at Rio I finally figured out the biscuit shape toward end of trip and greatly improved the quality of my collected rock. Biscuits 2-4 inches. Bigger was much rarer. How big can the biscuits get ?? Prefer 20 pounders
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Post by Sabre52 on Oct 12, 2016 8:30:52 GMT -5
James: My very first trip to Woodward, I met up with some Cajun guys who showed me how to hunt plume biscuits. At that time digging was allowed and we actually attacked the vesicular basalt and got agates in situ. Not all were biscuit shaped but, because they formed in bubbles in the basalt ( vesicles) that were basically mostly teardrop shaped, many were. When digging, spots were hot and cold and my hole was not great. Largest nodule I found was a couple of pounds. Other guys, one found an incredible hole and he was getting ten plus pounders right out of the bedrock and most were red plume. My hole had the dang black mostly. I've seen pics of hunks almost a hundred pounds from the canyons right near the headquarters but never found any that big myself except for ones that were more mossy with maybe a bit of flower garden. Way back then, we did not even drag that in to the scales. Price was 50 cents per pound and back then, my entire trip budget was not all that much money ( I'd usually spend most at the Milky Ranch on wood, the rock shop at Terlingua, and I'd set aside the $35 for a Bishop Ranch trip). Those were lean days and I had not a lot of money for rocks *L*. Most biscuits do not seem to be that large and the larger ones tend to be geodes or full of megaquartz with just a bit of plume in the corners. Seen huge geodes from Woodward, in one canyon especially. Best plume biscuits actually seem to be in the 1-4" size range. The huge plume hunks I've seen tend to be big vein sections or maybe broken or weathered from huge nodules but I've never seen a huge one with intact skin over ten pounds.
The Woodwards used to insist on sorting your finds and they would exclude the big nodules unless you fought them over them as they said they would be junk ( too much quartz) I kept and paid for all mine and sometimes the best plume was in small pockets in those quartzy nodules.
The great thing about Rios is, during river transport, most all the junk is eroded away. What you tend to get is really solid cores from the most solid nodules. I throw the quartz ones into a junk pile and am cutting a few now and will post some pics. Not great cabbing stuff but some are fairly interesting as they tend to have more tubes, lace etc, even though they have less color. When you guys hit the rock piles, check those carefully before you junk them as some are pretty interesting specimens. Most the plume and wood in the piles is so worn as to be hard to spot but both are really pretty. I cut a gorgeous cobble of wood yesterday thinking it was an agate...Mel
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Post by Fossilman on Oct 12, 2016 20:34:02 GMT -5
Cut wrong or not,I like them all....
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Post by Fritz on Oct 17, 2016 12:50:23 GMT -5
Great pics and story
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