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Post by 1dave on Nov 18, 2016 16:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 18, 2016 22:55:05 GMT -5
I just spent about an hour looking into this thing. It seems to good to be true. I've been meaning to look into more since I saw it on rio a while back. Amazon has it too, with mixed reviews, mostly problems with items missing. My biggest issue with it is that the motor is like 1/40 HP. I think I got that right. But, WOW, you can do a lot with it! I think I like the polishing and finishing metal best. It is such a messy job, but this looks so clean. Doubt I would ever use it for lapidary, though. Saw her do a demo on some rocks, but she didn't shape or dome which seems like it could be a problem. It seems like something you could really grow with. Buy the starter unit and gradually add accessories- even a flex shaft.
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Post by 1dave on Nov 19, 2016 8:24:04 GMT -5
I just spent about an hour looking into this thing. It seems to good to be true. I've been meaning to look into more since I saw it on rio a while back. Amazon has it too, with mixed reviews, mostly problems with items missing. My biggest issue with it is that the motor is like 1/40 HP. I think I got that right. But, WOW, you can do a lot with it! I think I like the polishing and finishing metal best. It is such a messy job, but this looks so clean. Doubt I would ever use it for lapidary, though. Saw her do a demo on some rocks, but she didn't shape or dome which seems like it could be a problem. It seems like something you could really grow with. Buy the starter unit and gradually add accessories- even a flex shaft. Yes Tela, those disks are only 3" leaving only about an inch of working area, so any large stone or jewelry would be difficult to work. If I were younger I would buy a 2-speed swamp cooler 1/3hp motor from Home Depot for $70, a foot speed control, and build my own. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 19, 2016 8:30:06 GMT -5
If I were smarter, I'd make my own.  |
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Post by 1dave on Nov 19, 2016 8:56:44 GMT -5
If I were smarter, I'd make my own. As Pat said use safety precautions! I can imagine getting hair caught in this, getting scalped while this grinds into your brain ... Well, for me perhaps that wouldn't be a bad way to go. HEADLINE: But with my luck I'd survive with a more handsome and expensive mug. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 19, 2016 9:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by 1dave on Nov 19, 2016 9:19:46 GMT -5
Way more interested in the bazookas than the unit. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 19, 2016 9:22:52 GMT -5
Way more interested in the bazookas than the unit. Agreed. If she really is the inventor, more power to her- boobs and all. |
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Post by 1dave on Nov 19, 2016 9:30:18 GMT -5
Way more interested in the bazookas than the unit. Agreed. If she really is the inventor, more power to her- boobs and all. I doubt she is the inventor - hired for sex sells power. Takes people back to paradise - those nursing moments. |
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Post by barclay on Nov 19, 2016 13:57:50 GMT -5
The posts were hilarious! I agree, polishing a shiny spot on a curved stone is easy o this equipment, but you could do the same on a Pixie much faster. Putting a dome on a pre-form i think would be much more challenging. I am also not a fan of using your fingers to manually re-wet the wheels periodically. i wonder how strong of a vacuum you have to use to control the dust. It looks like the dust is generated about 6" away. How well does your home vacuum cleaner work if you hold it 6" off the ground? To give you visibility on the rock you are working with it looks like they removed 20% of the surface area of the wheel so I am very skeptical that it works anywhere near as fast as a traditional machine. I think spending around $450 for an Ameritool swap top is far better than spending $900 on a Jool Tool.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 19:15:16 GMT -5
barclayHi Paul! The shop vac is attached to the back of the unit. The cutting happens inside the unit. So the cutting is happening at the mouth of a larger than normal vacuum tube. Not 6" away. I expect 100% gets sucked up. This setup appears to do the same work of 6 wheel machines. In a much more compact space. Using relatively cheap pads instead of expensive wheels. I admit wheels last longer. Total startup cost is so much lower it far more than doubles the market for newbies. rockjunquie works in her kitchen. How many folks would like to cake cabs but don't due to living situation? This solves that. Overall, I don't see this is a disruptor, like Uber did for taxis or email did to fax. No, I see it as a potentially terrific alternative to be added to the existing market place. Me, buy one? Naw. Not until I see a cab made start to finish. And even then? I dunno.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 20, 2016 10:42:24 GMT -5
barclay Hi Paul! The shop vac is attached to the back of the unit. The cutting happens inside the unit. So the cutting is happening at the mouth of a larger than normal vacuum tube. Not 6" away. I expect 100% gets sucked up. This setup appears to do the same work of 6 wheel machines. In a much more compact space. Using relatively cheap pads instead of expensive wheels. I admit wheels last longer. Total startup cost is so much lower it far more than doubles the market for newbies. rockjunquie works in her kitchen. How many folks would like to cake cabs but don't due to living situation? This solves that. Overall, I don't see this is a disruptor, like Uber did for taxis or email did to fax. No, I see it as a potentially terrific alternative to be added to the existing market place. Me, buy one? Naw. Not until I see a cab made start to finish. And even then? I dunno. If I were just starting out, I would seriously consider getting one and then adding onto it. Like you said, I don't have much room. This will not replace the genie by any means, but I could final polish cabs with cerium and not have a mess. I like it more for metal work and can see that it would be plenty useful. Plus, as a tool sharpener, I'm sure DH would use it. Hell, he'd probably use it as much as I would. I do not have an arbor polisher because of space and the messiness. If it were in my budget, I might get one for metal. I already have a foredom, so I wouldn't need that. I like how you can take it off the base and move around with it, too. That could be useful. |
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Post by johnjsgems on Nov 21, 2016 13:22:48 GMT -5
If polish mess is a problem, have you tried diamond compound? owed a neighbor a favor and he brought a crappy rock for me to cut and polish. It was very pitted and I knew any polish would be terrible to clean out of the voids. I used diamond compound and became a believer. Polishes pretty much anything and no mess. Have not tried the Nova discs sent with new Genies now but am guessing they would really work well too.
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Post by paulshiroma on Nov 22, 2016 11:57:08 GMT -5
X2 on barclay comments. I'm reading this on my smart phone and am having a good time with the comments ... Whatever the thing is she's selling, which I'm sure has everything to do with lapidary work. Can't quite make out the pics... |
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