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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 23:39:52 GMT -5
Cash talks, walk up there with 30-50K and I bet you will be hiring a semi trailer. Or three. You suppose its worth that?
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 7, 2017 0:09:39 GMT -5
Give it time. Bet the price drops to 1/3 within 2 years. Don't be surprised if he gets 10K in a bulk sale.
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osuguy0301
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Post by osuguy0301 on Jan 7, 2017 10:25:24 GMT -5
That would be awesome but a 150K is an awful lot of money for some rocks. My wife gives me grief when I spend $100 on rocks, 150K and she would literally kill me. She would probably stone me to death with my 150K in rocks. You would also need a decent plot of land to keep all those rocks on. I would have to buy the neighbors house just so I had a place to put them....LOL.
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Post by NDK on Jan 7, 2017 11:21:47 GMT -5
You guys lease the truck, I'll drive. I've got a class A tier 1 CDL. 😁 Heck, I'll even help load it.
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Post by NDK on Jan 7, 2017 11:27:47 GMT -5
Mr. @shotgunner can do the advertising. Route a trip to Tony's from Texas. We'll stop in a small town outside a big city daily and have a mobile rock sale. Stimulate the local economy. Anything left when we get to Tony's is his lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 12:03:40 GMT -5
Mr. @shotgunner can do the advertising. Route a trip to Tony's from Texas. We'll stop in a small town outside a big city daily and have a mobile rock sale. Stimulate the local economy. Anything left when we get to Tony's is his lol Road trip!! But proper advertising for this requires social media. We have some way more connected social media Mavens here. Tommy!!
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Post by QuailRiver on Jan 7, 2017 13:10:44 GMT -5
Mr. @shotgunner can do the advertising. Route a trip to Tony's from Texas. We'll stop in a small town outside a big city daily and have a mobile rock sale. Stimulate the local economy. Anything left when we get to Tony's is his lol LOL! If we're being honest with ourselves we'll have to admit that none of us can make a road trip form Texas to Idaho and not end the trip with more rocks than we started out with - regardless of our original intentions. Larry C.
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Post by peachfront on Jan 10, 2017 13:38:55 GMT -5
$7.50 a pound for 10 ton of rock seems like a steep price to me. At that price it would have to be all very good material. Most any body that buys it will have a trucking cost involved and cost will depend on distance of course. Not many can afford to buy it and not try to sell it for a profit.
Curious of what catmandewe thinks of the price..............................................MrP It's far too expensive even before the time, trouble, and costs of hauling. And since he seems hostile to people looking or trying to buy smaller quantities... I dunno about all this. When somebody is asking you to show up in the middle of the country with a big ole wad of cash, it has the potential to become a dangerous situation, eh... my spidey sense is saying this is not something I'd want to get mixed up in. I think I still have a ton of my own stuff left anyway.
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Post by broseph82 on Jan 10, 2017 17:14:20 GMT -5
This guy had it up for sale in 2015 as well. People asked the lowest he'd take just back in 2016 and I believe he said 80k. I think it includes saws and other lapidary equipment too
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Post by spiceman on Jan 10, 2017 21:01:51 GMT -5
The best response would be... Throw your hands high and walk away. Don't think about it. It's a lose/lose situation.
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Post by captbob on Jan 10, 2017 21:13:32 GMT -5
You haven't seen the collection nor do you know what he would let it go for, yet call this a "lose/lose situation".
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May be the best deal going for the right price.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2017 10:43:03 GMT -5
This guy needs to detail the entire collection. Big sale like that needs quantifying.
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Post by peachfront on Jan 11, 2017 14:03:29 GMT -5
You haven't seen the collection nor do you know what he would let it go for, yet call this a "lose/lose situation". alrighty May be the best deal going for the right price. It's hard to believe a guy who doesn't allow lookers and who demands six figures of cash is interested in providing a good deal or even a safe situation. I believe the person offering the sale is obligated to do a little more to convince us there's a reason for his actions. If he's looking for charity (somebody said about a flood), my heart goes out to him, but the way to ask for charity or help is completely different. You don't just put your hand out and ask for straight up cash for what appears to be far above what the market will bear...
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Post by captbob on Jan 11, 2017 16:17:30 GMT -5
If someone has a collection (of anything) where the individual items are worth 5-10-100 dollars and the entire collection is worth 10s of thousands to (possibly) over 100K, there are thousands upon thousands of individual pieces. There is no way to post photographs of anywhere near all that is for sale. As to "bring cash", that's just a term to help weed out the looky loos = serious buyers only. Any potential buyer would look the collection over in depth, make an offer or negotiate a price, then go to a bank for proper fund transfer - assuming that the seller wouldn't take a check. Very few would go to an unknown location in backwoods Texas with 100k in cash on them! Well, some may, but I doubt they are buying rocks ... uh, mineral specimens & lapidary equipment! Were I more interested -I am not due to the moving hassle and storage issues on my end- I would go simply on what I've seen. No one offers this type collection, at such a price, without being able to produce something reasonably close to the ballpark expectations. And, no seller would not expect price negotiating. If the seller is truly down on his luck (the first 5 minutes there would confirm that) a real deal (steal) may be possible.
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Post by osuguy0301 on Jan 11, 2017 16:21:58 GMT -5
I concur,
No legitimate buyer is gonna show up with a suitcase full of cash and buy that off of a few pictures. Most people would want to see the actual inventory in person, then take some time to run some numbers and go over the logistics of it, and then make an offer. The post comes off as very much "take it or leave it" and I would venture to say that it will be left.
Jake
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Post by captbob on Jan 11, 2017 16:35:27 GMT -5
As James said - Give it time. Bet the price drops to 1/3 within 2 years. Don't be surprised if he gets 10K in a bulk sale. The longer it sits, the better for price negotiating. Seller may not even have a bottom price set firm in his mind. Cash talks, and actual cash in hand (read: tax free) talks really really loud!
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Post by HankRocks on Jan 11, 2017 19:23:20 GMT -5
About 10 years ago had a somewhat related experience with an Quartz Crystal Minefor sale in Arkansas. The original price was 80k, I e-mailed the owner and asked a few questions and after about 4 rounds of back and forth e-mails the price was down to 60K. At that point I contacted the Forest Service about the status of the Mineral Lease. Every thing was current and a Re-claimation Bond was in place, although it might require another $500 be added to the Bond. Suddenly the Owner lowered the price to 28K. Contacted two close Crystal digging friends and we discussed it at length. Decided not to pull the trigger due to the fact that we would not be buying the land but a government lease which could be ended at the drop of a hat and our money would go with it. That and the problems associated with re-mote ownership, mainly theft.
Bottom line the price dropped the longer the discussion went on close to the 1/3 that was mentioned.
Now where could I put another 11 tons of agate?.....hmmmmm?
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Post by catmandewe on Jan 11, 2017 23:41:22 GMT -5
I have just the perfect spot for 11 tons, might have to toy with the idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 12:10:57 GMT -5
As James said - Give it time. Bet the price drops to 1/3 within 2 years. Don't be surprised if he gets 10K in a bulk sale. The longer it sits, the better for price negotiating. Seller may not even have a bottom price set firm in his mind. Cash talks, and actual cash in hand (read: tax free) talks really really loud! True dat! I had a colleague in the pet business. Definitely not a friend, but more of a guy I knew and had occasional dealings with. He owned a raw "live rock" (salt water aquarium tank, wild rocks with spores and other living stuff included) importing business. Over the 12 years i knew him, he sold the biz 4 times. He had a high pressure pie in the sky sales pitch about the profitabiliy of thei biz. Tax Documents to prove it. No matter what, as long as he owned it, he always had the business advertised for sale. 100% of the time! He had a very large starting price, negotiated down to half, offered to finance 80% of the sale. That meant his $500,000 start ended up at $250,000 and the down payment was $50k. All four buyers signed the docs, took over the biz and ran onto roadblocks at the supply side. Always something. Credit issues with the vendors, "national holiday" delaying export, collectors disappeared and having trouble hiring more..... always something in Fiji that affected the new owners ability to meet his obligations. 4 of 4 all failed. When the agreed upon note payments failed, he repossessed the biz. Four times! All legalized thru documents and lawyers. I am not saying he colluded with the very small group of vendors. But, that is certainly an option. Its also possible, he just took vacations during the four purchase periods when buyers ran the biz for him. He did brag that the $50k plus payments made made him more profit than the same time period would have if he hadnt sold the business. His product wasnt live stone it was the business. I know catmandewe is far too savvy to gety caught up in crap like that, but this smells similar, somehow. A little more concrete with inspectable inventory. Still.... what is unknown here? A huge ask like this always raises my scam radar. I hope I am wrong.
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Post by zekesman on Jan 12, 2017 14:38:07 GMT -5
I saw it on face book again $80,000 now. Vic
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