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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2017 7:11:39 GMT -5
1dave sent me Fremont beans. Thank you Dave. It is mid-May and getting hot. Time to give these desert dwellers a go. Bamboo tops will be stacked up around them to form a corral to keep the deer out, photos coming on that experimental trick. And to allow beans to climb on. When season is over the bamboo will be simply set on fire. Big Fremont's: After 3 years this field is reclaimed from bamboo and ready to plant. It runs on a gentle slope and a pond fed 60 gallon per minute pump sits on the high end. Full sun sandy loam. EASY to plow. Probably similar to desert soil. Should be able to basically flood it as it is plowed downhill. Interesting field, it is 100% sediment from upland ground in background of photo. Zero rocks. Must be 3 feet deep, all top soil from my neighbor's poorly managed fields above me. Thanks for the deposit. In reclaiming the field I deep plowed it constantly with a 70 year old Deerborn 2 disc turning plow. The bamboo roots broke one of the 3 inch shafts on the rear 32" disc. Wow. Time for a trip to the tractor junkyard.
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Post by 1dave on May 14, 2017 9:13:32 GMT -5
"I can't remember, my mind's in a blender, it's JELLO!" rockpowell gave them to me and after I sent the beans out to friends she reminded me they are FREMONT BEANS.They are part of the scarlet Runner bean family. Fremont Beans They were discovered around 1970 in a cave near Cove Fort as I-70 was being built, shared and grown by people in the area for some time before being "discovered" by the plant industry. The story of building I-70 in Utah is a wild story all by itself.
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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2017 10:30:37 GMT -5
Fremont sounds fine. With all that history. And is the bigger of the bunch. Nice to have all the history 1dave. Let's see what a Georgia redneck makes out of them. Two biggest threats to their success will be deer and someone me forgetting to water them.
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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2017 13:19:39 GMT -5
Dead bamboo extraction prickly bamboo tops Tree that secretes yellow juice. Tasty 12' X 12" spot raked smooth and planted. Heavy cast iron sprinkler set for 14' X 14'. Bamboo tops serving as trellis and deer protection. Used to work for reefer plants.
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Post by 1dave on May 14, 2017 13:49:35 GMT -5
Lots of sugar in some tree saps. Lots of sap in some of us lunkheads.
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Post by coloradocliff on May 14, 2017 14:41:16 GMT -5
Lots of sugar in some tree saps. Lots of sap in some of us lunkheads. Lots of sugar trapped in Maples as we all know but an amazing amount of sugar and vanillans in white oak., Toasted in oven, wrapped in tin foil with a small hole for a couple hours. 350 degrees for sweeter, 400 for the vanilla flavor, Hotter temps than that drives out the first two and adds a toasty flavor. Putting an alligator char on the sticks will remove baddies from wines and whiskeys and other spirits. After you had the aging sticks in your liquid for a couple weeks and it moving in and out of the sticks, the sugars get dissolved and carried into the vharacter of what ever you have them soaking in. Untoasted will make it taste like wet wood. Amazing thing is that the oak becomes porous after its sugar lkeaches out. Can suck and blow thru the soaked stick. Sugars must really be in good supply. I don't know but I been tole that the character will really enhcnce a corn based liquor like bourbon.. The stick that's charred imparts that dark color, the uncharred but toasted sticks will also give a color but not as rich. Beans are really interesting. I sell the scarlet runners seeds but didn't know the back ground. Dave your mother in law is wrong about you.. You're smart !!! Good bean grower here. Have some of my properties planted to benas every year. One of my employees uses most of it...He grows corn in one of my bottom land properties 12 feet tall and staks larger than my wrist.. Yeah I know, when I get time to figure how to attrach pictures it will happen. grin. Mites are the worst. People plant here in first week of june to avoid the hotter times when the beans need to growing vegetatively without being stressed . Mites are the worst pest but have seenaphids. 7 dust or similar works for both on this scale. Also tell JAmes he hasn't built a deer deterent. He made a deer buffet. theyre just going to stroll thru. Use that utility pole for one post in a triangle, Set a couple posts at last 7 ft out of ground and if he don't have field fence to unroll and wrap around it use, Woven bamboo and or canvass to block the varmints view of your goodies.
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Post by coloradocliff on May 14, 2017 17:21:51 GMT -5
1dave sent me Fremont beans. Thank you Dave. It is mid-May and getting hot. Time to give these desert dwellers a go. Bamboo tops will be stacked up around them to form a corral to keep the deer out, photos coming on that experimental trick. And to allow beans to climb on. When season is over the bamboo will be simply set on fire. Big Fremont's: After 3 years this field is reclaimed from bamboo and ready to plant. It runs on a gentle slope and a pond fed 60 gallon per minute pump sits on the high end. Full sun sandy loam. EASY to plow. Probably similar to desert soil. Should be able to basically flood it as it is plowed downhill. Interesting field, it is 100% sediment from upland ground in background of photo. Zero rocks. Must be 3 feet deep, all top soil from my neighbor's poorly managed fields above me. Thanks for the deposit. In reclaiming the field I deep plowed it constantly with a 70 year old Deerborn 2 disc turning plow. The bamboo roots broke one of the 3 inch shafts on the rear 32" disc. Wow. Time for a trip to the tractor junkyard. Mah tractor is purdier than yours but your looks so much faster. Ever race her? grin' Another idea to block the pesky deer is a couple heights of that orange contruction fencing. If the deer can see thru it, you'll need to tie some strips of cloth or white plastic on top so they can see how high it is and wont jump it. Need a good recipe for venison summer sausage. Love your place. Looks like what I would be comfortable in. Well maybe except for the bamboo hell you been living with. Closed for the day... Whew. Just check water and then some butt time.
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Post by coloradocliff on May 14, 2017 17:26:37 GMT -5
"I can't remember, my mind's in a blender, it's JELLO!" rockpowell gave them to me and after I sent the beans out to friends she reminded me they are FREMONT BEANS.They are part of the scarlet Runner bean family. Fremont Beans They were discovered around 1970 in a cave near Cove Fort as I-70 was being built, shared and grown by people in the area for some time before being "discovered" by the plant industry. The story of building I-70 in Utah is a wild story all by itself. Boy James, Sure do know that stretch of I 70 Goblin park. Hear about the scout leader that led to toppling some of the goblin valley structurews. Got my monkey just a spinning. How close you live to Goblin Valley? I like that drive down off I70 down to the sweet part of the state. Don't care for Salt Lake but like Dixie area and Escalante.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2017 18:06:11 GMT -5
Deer used to mess me up bad. I have a permit to eliminate them and do.
A motion sensing dual floodlight with a bulb in one socket and a radio plugged into the other socket does fine. No deer w/this system. And if they to keep the loud boom box on I will pop them in the flood light. I just set it up; got several in a unitized box. Run extension cord to it. Got another device that is not so friendly. Would have gone out of business long ago if I did not figure out the deer. Love deer jerky, especially warm season deer. Green foliage makes them delicious. Winter acorns ruins the meat. Water lilies high on their list. Up to 3 feet deep water they will wear them out.
That's a 1972 Ferguson powered David Brown(DB-5 Aston Martin). She's a torque machine for little 40 HP.
Goblin Valley ? (me in Atlanta GA)
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Post by 1dave on May 14, 2017 19:38:06 GMT -5
Near the town of Hanksville, approximately 216 miles southeast of Salt Lake City. From I-70, exit onto Highway 24 and drive south for approximately 24 miles to the signed park turnoff, which is also the turnoff for Temple Mountain. From the Hwy 24 turnoff, follow the paved road for about 12 miles to park. utah.com/goblin-valley-state-parkGoblin Valley includes an area where soft sandstone has eroded into interesting shapes, somewhat resembling goblins. In some spots the rock formations are close together and produce a maze-like playground ideal for family explorations. Many people think the park landscape has a surreal appearance. A Hollywood movie, Galaxy Quest, was filmed at Goblin Valley State Park because of its unearthly scenery. This is one of Utah's most popular parks. It offers incredible scenery and great opportunity for hiking and camping. stateparks.utah.gov/parks/goblin-valley/map/The goblin-like hoodoos here are unique and fun for all ages.
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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2017 19:45:51 GMT -5
Wow, those structures are a trip 1dave. Serious geology. Surreal
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