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Post by jamesp on May 15, 2017 5:37:29 GMT -5
Now there is no doubt in my mind. These 4 weeks are abnormally high views for two years. Redid shop using Marmalead April 22 2017. Anyone want to buy a fine fire pit business ? I'll sell in May 2018.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 13:43:54 GMT -5
Whats magic about may 2018?
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Post by Don on May 15, 2017 16:30:27 GMT -5
My marmalead experience so far hasn't been great. Sales have slowed to a trickle this month, which is also when I started using marmalead. maybe it's a coincidence. May is slow slow slow.  |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 17, 2017 16:27:16 GMT -5
Well, I did the dabble. I emptied my shop except for 19 listings, but I figured I could get some insight into changes needed for the remaining items. I got "A's" on my free dabbler check. I doubt I will pay for it for more.... but one never knows what the future holds.
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 22:35:11 GMT -5
Don rockjunquieIt appears it is a big plus to sell on Etsy if your product scores green on the first two green dots. The first green dot is high engagement. The second green dot is low competition. Red dots mean low engagement and high competition. Some screen shots of cabs and stones and jewelry. Looks like earrings are the hotter items.   I inserted 'mother and daughter' for a test product. I knew that 'mommy and me outfits' was a hot item 
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 22:46:07 GMT -5
So the next storm I entered was jade cabochon. I see birthstones and wedding is hot. Market birthstones and wedding necklace. Next search will be birthstone jewelry(never done it before but guessing good results) jade cabochon  |
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 22:52:29 GMT -5
OK, entered birthstone. All (green) high engagement, and better yellow and orange lower competition. Much better. Can you make cabs out of amethyst, opal, topaz, garnet, aquamarine and market them as birthstones ?  |
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 23:07:18 GMT -5
What is that killer Australian opal ? It qualifies for birthstone status and is total eye catcher. Storm: opal birthstone cab(looks like it is begging to be listed)  This stuff, boulder opal. I do not know, maybe it is very expensive. If not, it certainly passes as a birthstone.  |
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 23:35:10 GMT -5
Marmalead will tell you about engagement and competition.
Found these five words that seem to have interest on Etsy.
Probably great title words if you can make something that fits.
BoHo
anniversary
wedding
birthstone
earring
mother and daughter setting
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 23:45:53 GMT -5
My Etsy customers are younger and search younger terms. Not my style, but my responsibility to learn their habits and styles. They are the spenders. It's all about the search terms.  |
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2017 23:49:45 GMT -5
Whats magic about may 2018? Getting close to retirement Scott. |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 18, 2017 12:17:29 GMT -5
Thanks for posting all that James. I haven't decided if I want to monkey with what I have now. I only have 19 listings and they seem to be doing well. May look into the cab shop, though. When I get a chance. Marmalead is dense. Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be a high learning curve there.
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Post by jamesp on May 19, 2017 3:50:30 GMT -5
My wife is Tinkerlighting. She has like 700 sales since 2011. Bulk of her sales has been pendant lighting. Pendant lighting has become quite competitive. So after doing some research on lighting products 'floor lamp' was found desirable using Marmalead grading system. (She told me to find a good light to sell using Marmalead so I am up early this May 19 Friday morning before the noise starts) Searching Etsy, pendant lighting-68,000 items. Searching Etsy, floor light - 6,600 items. The wife has all the hardware collected to build any type of light. No matter type. A floor lamp is turn key. Sit it down and plug it in. Trickier to ship. Trickier for importers to ship also. A pendant light often requires an electrician, canopy, connection to electrical box-lots of consultation w/(often dumb) customers. Easy to import/ship. Let's see what Marmalead said. It was used to find the 'best' light to sell. Floor lamp came up #1. Floor lamp 'status' and pendant light 'status':   Clearly, floor lamps have high engagement as do pendant lighting(first green dot). But floor lighting has very low competition(middle green dot) and pendant lighting has higher competition(yellow/orange/red middle dot). So I searched floor light and found 6600 items, searched pendant lighting and found 68,000 items. 68,000 is high competition. It is much easier to compete on Etsy against 3000 to 6000 items verses 68,000 items. You play with title keywords and pay a bit on promotion; you will likely get on page 1 or 2 or 3 with 6000 items. Not likely with 68,000 items. Note on promoted listings-click on the amount you spend on your promoted listings. Etsy will give you an amount to be competitive. In fire pits it is $10 per day to about guarantee page 1-2-3. However $2/day gets me on page 1-2 or 2-3 or 1-3. If you ain't on page 1-2-3-4 your goose is cooked for shopper recognition. I am getting great exposure in fire pits paying $2/day. I might bump it to $8 on Sunday when shopping is at a peak. $10/day provides maximum ad coverage for fire pit category. Some products can be $28/day.  Focusing closer on (niche) floor lamp, the middle dot is dark green, meaning extremely low competition. But the first green dot says high engagement. Perfect candidate for Etsy product. @shotgunner, you recently mentioned niche markets. This be one in hot pursuit. Probably computer users want floor lamps(like me).  I just jumped out of the watermelon truck. Know nothing about my wife's light business. Other than helping her with hardware. If she doesn't make a few floor lamps I am. They have one of the highest desirability ratings of any item I have searched on Marmalead. Betcha they will sell. Check out the base I will use. See bottom of 30 inch fire pit. 24 inch diameter rolled 10 gauge steel disc at 20 pounds. Got ~40 of them. Perfect floor pedestal for a floor lamp. Weld or couple vertical pipe w/threaded top end to center of disc and the top fixture is history(wife's domain).  Ordering brass or stainless floor flange in next minutes.  |
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Post by coloradocliff on May 19, 2017 5:28:59 GMT -5
Great looking base. Don't you ever sleep?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 7:13:30 GMT -5
And so now she sells small.firepits and you sell lighting.
I love your relationship. Competitive to the max and sniping each others biz. She loves you Jim.
Can't visualize bronze on steel pedestal lamp. Those parts come in black iron also.
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Post by jamesp on May 19, 2017 21:21:02 GMT -5
Great looking base. Don't you ever sleep? C When all is set up I will have lotsa free time. Building capital equipment and getting everything prepared is long hours. Means to an easier end Cliff. Setting up the nursery was 2 years straight 7 days a week. Then almost 25 years working 6 months /year. Paid off well. Did it top notch and spared no expense. Best of everything. I am very lazy. I will bust my butt to set things up for easy living and decent income. I don't care for money, I just need it to have spare time. No red Corvette and high living. About to dump tired nursery biz and do the fire pits. But I need capital equipment, proper tooling and internet position. Almost got it dialed in. |
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Post by jamesp on May 19, 2017 21:24:35 GMT -5
And so now she sells small.firepits and you sell lighting. I love your relationship. Competitive to the max and sniping each others biz. She loves you Jim. Can't visualize bronze on steel pedestal lamp. Those parts come in black iron also. Yea, we are picking at each other all the time. Keeps the blood pumping. She jumped me about the brass too. Maybe I should stick w/fire pits. Yep, black iron and galvanized. |
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Post by coloradocliff on May 19, 2017 22:38:35 GMT -5
Great looking base. Don't you ever sleep? C When all is set up I will have lotsa free time. Building capital equipment and getting everything prepared is long hours. Means to an easier end Cliff. Setting up the nursery was 2 years straight 7 days a week. Then almost 25 years working 6 months /year. Paid off well. Did it top notch and spared no expense. Best of everything. I am very lazy. I will bust my butt to set things up for easy living and decent income. I don't care for money, I just need it to have spare time. No red Corvette and high living. About to dump tired nursery biz and do the fire pits. But I need capital equipment, proper tooling and internet position. Almost got it dialed in. James We were separated at birth. Same thing. Endless hourse of working vary hard, inhuman hours and effort to most, but my normal too. Yep have more money and property than I know what to do with. Would never do that corvette either but the biggest and fastest truck in the county. I'm there.. grin. Think that the most difficult in our lives and slowing down is the down shifting to an easier place. Would hate to get old and not able to do what I like but the body has wear marks at this point. 2 torn rotators and a bad knee surgery forced me to sell the Harley and slow down some. Sold my welder to an employee cheap for the same reason. GAve a huge wine making set up to the daughter same way. PS didn't give up making alcohol. Also went down and rebought another wine set up again. Got more junk than a salvation army store Need to slow down more and let htings heal. Have done and puttered with so any things in my life and world but still love doing it. Don't know how to stop but hoping the forum and friends on here can mud me up and stop me from cutting. Probably never will be well polished. You ever get down to the Peace River in Florida or the Carolina rivers and dive the black water for meg teeth and fossils. Bet so. grin.. See your huge intellect in such things as the details in your homebuilt tumbler designs especially to bevel the inside out the pipe so as to not catch grit, Ditto for many things that you make. Hard work and no play makes for men like us for sure. I bet you are also generous of time, money and effort to help those weaker and less able. I applaud many thing about the man who you are and I also strive to be like that. Have retired several times in my life but never could just play and sit. Am a guy that needs to do thing. I get my gratest accomplishment of building things be it a bridge over a river or a house in a foreign country. The thing that eats my lunch is the darn computers. Hate em and cant really find someone competent enough to make them smooth to my liking. Someday will catch you up and meet you. Why?? Well to borrow money of course. grin.. probably not. While not competent nor interested enough to comment on this thread have watched it with interest in the long hours of the night when all but you and I are sleeping. This stuff is outside my interest and frankly would be difficult to do unless. like you, I would use it as a tool. Even preparing all the print media ads in my busy season is enough for me. Ran some manatee bone in the polisher... Different looking. see how it turns out. Later brother Cliff
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Post by jamesp on May 20, 2017 6:19:14 GMT -5
When all is set up I will have lotsa free time. Building capital equipment and getting everything prepared is long hours. Means to an easier end Cliff. Setting up the nursery was 2 years straight 7 days a week. Then almost 25 years working 6 months /year. Paid off well. Did it top notch and spared no expense. Best of everything. I am very lazy. I will bust my butt to set things up for easy living and decent income. I don't care for money, I just need it to have spare time. No red Corvette and high living. About to dump tired nursery biz and do the fire pits. But I need capital equipment, proper tooling and internet position. Almost got it dialed in. James We were separated at birth. Same thing. Endless hourse of working vary hard, inhuman hours and effort to most, but my normal too. Yep have more money and property than I know what to do with. Would never do that corvette either but the biggest and fastest truck in the county. I'm there.. grin. Think that the most difficult in our lives and slowing down is the down shifting to an easier place. Would hate to get old and not able to do what I like but the body has wear marks at this point. 2 torn rotators and a bad knee surgery forced me to sell the Harley and slow down some. Sold my welder to an employee cheap for the same reason. GAve a huge wine making set up to the daughter same way. PS didn't give up making alcohol. Also went down and rebought another wine set up again. Got more junk than a salvation army store Need to slow down more and let htings heal. Have done and puttered with so any things in my life and world but still love doing it. Don't know how to stop but hoping the forum and friends on here can mud me up and stop me from cutting. Probably never will be well polished. You ever get down to the Peace River in Florida or the Carolina rivers and dive the black water for meg teeth and fossils. Bet so. grin.. See your huge intellect in such things as the details in your homebuilt tumbler designs especially to bevel the inside out the pipe so as to not catch grit, Ditto for many things that you make. Hard work and no play makes for men like us for sure. I bet you are also generous of time, money and effort to help those weaker and less able. I applaud many thing about the man who you are and I also strive to be like that. Have retired several times in my life but never could just play and sit. Am a guy that needs to do thing. I get my gratest accomplishment of building things be it a bridge over a river or a house in a foreign country. The thing that eats my lunch is the darn computers. Hate em and cant really find someone competent enough to make them smooth to my liking. Someday will catch you up and meet you. Why?? Well to borrow money of course. grin.. probably not. While not competent nor interested enough to comment on this thread have watched it with interest in the long hours of the night when all but you and I are sleeping. This stuff is outside my interest and frankly would be difficult to do unless. like you, I would use it as a tool. Even preparing all the print media ads in my busy season is enough for me. Ran some manatee bone in the polisher... Different looking. see how it turns out. Later brother Cliff
You would work circles around me. Your posts are telling of the effort you put into a project lol. I assure you you are way more aggressive than I. I do listen and pay close attention. You have that attribute. That will do more for making life easier than anything. Listen and apply logic to the subject. Good builders and doers are great listeners. Polish ? Apparently it is low priority. Facts and logic always outweighed politically streamline. Y'all kiss the bosses ass and I will go build my empire was my approach. And if I hire employees and they think they will get somewhere kissing butt they will not be working for me long. Nor stirring up political crap, them type get fired at blink of eye. Health is an issue. The rotator cuffs, no fun. At 60 and lots of injuries it does slow things down. First job out of college. 18 men, 6 on each shift. 2nd and 3rd were young guys, 1st shift all over 50. Why do the 50+ always have something in their hands ? 1st thing I noticed. They walked north, had 2 items. Walked south had 3 items. Walked east had one item. They were efficient, carrying the stuff they need to do the job and making very few trips on their achy feet. 2nd and 3rd shift look like ants. Moving fast and always rushed. The old guys out produced them at a snail's pace 2 to 1. Less mistakes too. Us old farts can do miracles. It takes years to learn basic concept of efficiency. I spent 45 minutes prying rocks wedged in my first PVC barrel only one time. That barrel found itself in the trash can in one minute. Easier to redo it correct. Perfect tools makes a perfect life. I have a stupid table, so basic, to weld fire pits on. It is well thought out. I can build 6 times faster than my competition and many different styles very precision. And it is totally ergonomic too for the old guy. I cover it up with a blanket when not in use so visitors can't see it. I do have people that visit that have copied me. I am excited. I have a contract on a property in Florida as of yesterday that was bought long ago to assist me and wife's retirement. If it sells I will close down plant biz next day. I may have only worked 6 months/year for 25 years but I have not had spring free for 25 years. Long work hours instead. Looking forward to ending that cycle. The details. They will burn you. It's all in the details. |
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