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Post by tims on Jun 16, 2017 18:40:13 GMT -5
A few more tumbles that came out flat enough to practice on, hopefully in a month i'll have some shaped pieces to play with. I still hate bails.
The teepee might get re-wrapped someday it's a pretty stone
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Post by orrum on Jun 16, 2017 21:49:22 GMT -5
Try square wire, I find it easier!!! You Are Doin great! A guy on here named BikerRandy says a wrap s dsy and at the end of a year you have 365 wraps and you r very good at wrapping!!!
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 16, 2017 21:54:42 GMT -5
You're doin' great!! I really like the 4th one a lot. Like Orrum and Randy said- practice, practice, practice. Yeah, everyone hates bail.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 7:28:22 GMT -5
So pretty. I would love to see the back of the square one, it looks so different.
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Post by Fossilman on Jun 17, 2017 8:44:24 GMT -5
Like your wrapping,I like simple with no extras-just like that!!
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 17, 2017 8:57:12 GMT -5
Like your wrapping,I like simple with no extras-just like that!! Yep, I think the wrap ought to show off the stone, not overpower it. |
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Post by tims on Jun 17, 2017 15:21:55 GMT -5
So pretty. I would love to see the back of the square one, it looks so different. Here's the back; my neighbor thinks this should be the front. Alien rock hugger.
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 17, 2017 15:35:41 GMT -5
By working with tumbles you will only get better when you start cabbing..
I like the pieces. A masculine, strong look to the pieces. Good job !
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 17, 2017 15:36:27 GMT -5
So pretty. I would love to see the back of the square one, it looks so different. Here's the back; my neighbor thinks this should be the front. Alien rock hugger.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 16:42:03 GMT -5
Here's the back; my neighbor thinks this should be the front. Alien rock hugger.
Yep An alien for sure.. grin Ha! Love it, I totally see the alien  Did you have to use epoxy or anything to secure it? It almost seems like It could pop out the front. Would hate for that alien to be hugging air. |
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 17, 2017 16:51:45 GMT -5
Yep An alien for sure.. grin Ha! Love it, I totally see the alien Did you have to use epoxy or anything to secure it? It almost seems like It could pop out the front. Would hate for that alien to be hugging air. Held in place by the wire only. The alien is hugging the rock which represents you.... I think he likes you.. |
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Post by tims on Jun 17, 2017 17:41:26 GMT -5
No epoxy, he's got a solid grip.
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Post by pghram on Jun 17, 2017 18:13:27 GMT -5
Very nice, I like your designs.
Peace,
Rich
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Post by fernwood on Jun 17, 2017 19:45:17 GMT -5
These are great.
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Post by tims on Jun 17, 2017 20:11:36 GMT -5
Question: would $25-$35 seem like a reasonable price for these pieces? I posted a pic on facebook and people have been offering to buy them but I have no clue on $. They take a lot of time but they're still novice pieces. Opinions?
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 17, 2017 20:20:39 GMT -5
Question: would $25-$35 seem like a reasonable price for these pieces? I posted a pic on facebook and people have been offering to buy them but I have no clue on $. They take a lot of time but they're still novice pieces. Opinions? Figure what costs you have in your stone, then figure the wire costs (which are minimal), then figure your time and what you want to pay yourself per hour. I'm thinking anywhere from 50-85 dollars. I would say since you are new to this and because there is no patina- you should ask for 50ish. Don't even be bashful about asking for it. You deserve to be paid for your time just like anyone else. Do not devalue handmade by going too low. ETA- I think that 2nd wrap was, at the very least, inspired by Tommy. It is always very good form to give credit. |
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Post by tims on Jun 18, 2017 1:21:09 GMT -5
Question: would $25-$35 seem like a reasonable price for these pieces? I posted a pic on facebook and people have been offering to buy them but I have no clue on $. They take a lot of time but they're still novice pieces. Opinions? Figure what costs you have in your stone, then figure the wire costs (which are minimal), then figure your time and what you want to pay yourself per hour. I'm thinking anywhere from 50-85 dollars. I would say since you are new to this and because there is no patina- you should ask for 50ish. Don't even be bashful about asking for it. You deserve to be paid for your time just like anyone else. Do not devalue handmade by going too low. ETA- I think that 2nd wrap was, at the very least, inspired by Tommy . It is always very good form to give credit. Thanks for the price advice. I'm conscientious of my wrapping time but tend to overlook time and expenses spent rock hounding, cutting and tumbling, and the cost of wrapping tools and supplies. Plus setting a low price now will undermine the value when i get better at wrapping and start to use more expensive wire and more labor-intensive cabs. FWIW the 2nd wrap was inspired by a Soumak wrap by Wyatt White on YT though i changed it up quite a bit ... just liked the idea of tying multiple wires on the back then doing the little tabs. If the idea originated from seeing one of Tommy's pieces, which is very possible, then thanks Tommy and i didn't intend to copy you. I will try to do better giving credit for other people's ideas. I know the 4th piece with the bindings on the corners was something i tried after seeing a post by AmyK ... i'd always put the bindings on the flats before that. I indicated in a reply to her post that i preferred her method and intended to try it (http://forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/78489/3) and it is better, so thank you amyk for that idea and i hope you don't mind me trying it. EDIT: i see there was also a piece in AmyK's post with prongs, so maybe that's what got me thinking and why Wyatt's tutorial caught my eye. Again, not an intentional copy and no offense intended. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 18, 2017 2:49:44 GMT -5
Figure what costs you have in your stone, then figure the wire costs (which are minimal), then figure your time and what you want to pay yourself per hour. I'm thinking anywhere from 50-85 dollars. I would say since you are new to this and because there is no patina- you should ask for 50ish. Don't even be bashful about asking for it. You deserve to be paid for your time just like anyone else. Do not devalue handmade by going too low. ETA- I think that 2nd wrap was, at the very least, inspired by Tommy . It is always very good form to give credit. Thanks for the price advice. I'm conscientious of my wrapping time but tend to overlook time and expenses spent rock hounding, cutting and tumbling, and the cost of wrapping tools and supplies. Plus setting a low price now will undermine the value when i get better at wrapping and start to use more expensive wire and more labor-intensive cabs. FWIW the 2nd wrap was inspired by a Soumak wrap by Wyatt White on YT though i changed it up quite a bit ... just liked the idea of tying multiple wires on the back then doing the little tabs. If the idea originated from seeing one of Tommy's pieces, which is very possible, then thanks Tommy and i didn't intend to copy you. I will try to do better giving credit for other people's ideas. I know the 4th piece with the bindings on the corners was something i tried after seeing a post by AmyK ... i'd always put the bindings on the flats before that. I indicated in a reply to her post that i preferred her method and intended to try it (http://forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/78489/3) and it is better, so thank you amyk for that idea and i hope you don't mind me trying it. EDIT: i see there was also a piece in AmyK's post with prongs, so maybe that's what got me thinking and why Wyatt's tutorial caught my eye. Again, not an intentional copy and no offense intended. I wasn't trying to come down on you, at all. Rather, since you are new, I thought I would point out a good habit. On pricing- It is often said that it is much easier to lower your prices than to raise them. Your customers will dig in their heels if you ask them to pay 85 for something they used to pay 50 for. That's a hard lesson to learn- ask me how I know.  |
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Post by Tommy on Jun 18, 2017 9:57:37 GMT -5
FWIW the 2nd wrap was inspired by a Soumak wrap by Wyatt White on YT though i changed it up quite a bit ... just liked the idea of tying multiple wires on the back then doing the little tabs. If the idea originated from seeing one of Tommy's pieces, which is very possible, then thanks Tommy and i didn't intend to copy you. It's all good thanks Tim and rockjunquie. I've given my inspirational credit to the Wyatt White video too - although he'd probably faint if he saw how badly I've convoluted his elegant style  Beautiful wraps - keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming! |
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Post by morerockspleaz on Jun 20, 2017 0:47:15 GMT -5
Very nice wraps. my favorite is the first one. i love the wrap on it. Perfect for the stone
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Did you have to use epoxy or anything to secure it? It almost seems like It could pop out the front. Would hate for that alien to be hugging air. 
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