agatemaggot
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 7, 2007 23:20:47 GMT -5
Anyone that thinks they have been had by an E-Bay vender should check out this guy. It looks like some serious mail fraud going on with this one. I have to go to the post office monday and think I will talk to someone and have it checked into.
The name of this characters store is:
eleganceforu
Take a close look at the wording in the item discriptions.
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 7, 2007 23:30:10 GMT -5
Forgot to mention that these loose gemstones are listed as CREATED Diamonds.
I sent two E-Mails asking WHAT they were created FROM.
The guy must be extreamly bashful because he has'nt ansered back yet!!!
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Post by deb193 on Apr 8, 2007 9:32:41 GMT -5
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 8, 2007 22:29:26 GMT -5
I suspect that the inclusions mentioned are probably bubbles in the glass. Probably thrown in to lower your guard. Its been 3 days and still haven't received a response as to type of material.
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Post by deb193 on Apr 9, 2007 11:09:26 GMT -5
I suspect that the inclusions mentioned are probably bubbles in the glass. Probably thrown in to lower your guard. Its been 3 days and still haven't received a response as to type of material. If this is a manufactured diamond, it is carbon and not silica, so "glass" would be the wrong term. I am not sure what makes the inclusions in manufactured diamonds. I guess some sort of air bubble is possible given the vacuum chamber used to make them. |
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 9, 2007 18:34:15 GMT -5
The key word was CREATED on the store site. This could , and probably does , include everything from paste to Mexican cut glass. I have read quite a bit about the Synthetic Diamond manufacturing processes and it doesn't sound as if they have inclusions from the way they are grown. They grow from the inside out, rather than from the outside in, such as the real dealies do. I have really been hoping to win the lottery and make a trip to the East coast and do some investing. When the guy in the Northeast gets his process together there is going to be a big jump in computer technology. It sounds like he can grow Diamond plates approximately 3/8 of an inch thick right now. The big hang up is the electrical properties, as the current isn't passing through properly.
They do look good up to 16 carats faceted tho. 16 Ct. under $1300.00
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Post by LCARS on Apr 13, 2007 13:33:04 GMT -5
I got 0 results doing a search, how about a link?
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Post by rockyraccoon on Apr 16, 2007 13:02:26 GMT -5
based on the wording he uses i would assume they are synthetic but the prices suggest simulants - he could buy 100 10x8mm octagon white cz's loose from 32-86 cents each depending on quality - less if he bought bigger quantities i imagine.
i don't know how they get away with the shipping prices on gemstones but it seems they all do it. some just blatantly put a big fee and others charge so much extra for combining items but they all are shipping in small first class envelopes and nobody is charging that rate. you can fit a bunch of small stones in a padded envelope.
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 18, 2007 16:33:21 GMT -5
I am really convinced the guy is a cut glass con man , and after watching the bids also believe there is a CREATED second bidder. This is easy to spot as a higher bid will come in a short time before the auction is over. If you click on the high bidder , you sometimes find that this person just made their first bid on say, a piece of high dollar rough , just using this as an example. You check 3 full pages of their buying history and there isn't a trace of any purchases pertaining to lapidary rough. Now the bidding goes back and forth for ten or fifteen minutes and you finally lose interest as the price is now more than any sane fool would pay. Let em have it you say to yourself. 10 minutes after the auction ends, guess what  ?? Here comes a second chance offer for the last amount that you bid. HMMMMMMM !!!! |
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Post by wm7734 on Apr 28, 2007 10:07:44 GMT -5
ive dealt with this guy,hes ok BUT you are not gonna get a diamond that cheap,theyre CZ,i use em to practice my ring mounting techs.
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Post by agatemaggot on May 1, 2007 16:42:44 GMT -5
Wm7734,
Wasn't concerned about the price of the stone as we figured it as CZ or glass, BUT, $20.00 for shipping 3 small items is nothing less than theft , I t matters not where you went to school. With E-Bay backing this character I believe you could say that we just completed a short graduate course in anal sex.
My apologies to everyone for that last remark, but , to put it mildly, the bitch done pet me against the fur ,and ,bad feedback is NOT what's on my plate at the moment !!!!!!!
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Post by larrywyland3 on May 2, 2007 22:42:46 GMT -5
some man made diamonds start with a real diamond chip and then; like a cultured pearl the process ads more diamond; although not as hard as natural diamond more like a 9.3 vs 10. The inclusion could be in the starter chip. Or it could be intensional to through off someone trying to determine if it is real. There are a lot of manufactured, synthetic and outright cheap fakes out there. The CZ is a man made Zircon. Zircons are a mineral with a high refractive index but are easily seperated from diamond. Man made diamonds can be much harder to tell from the natural as they are the same mineral. IMHO don't waste your money on a real diamond. Buy a natural Zircon; they are just as beautiful very durable and not expensive. Or you could buy a colorless saphire or goshenite (colorless emerald a beryl) All very durable and have a nice sparkle. CZs are great nothing wrong with the man made bling as long as you know what your buying, but if it is man made it should be flawless.
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