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Post by jamesp on Oct 22, 2017 5:24:41 GMT -5
It's darn cheap.
36" X 36" X 12" anywhere from $75 to $160 from Atlanta Georgia to lower 48. $160 being west coast. Delivered to consignee's residence. A 150 pound box of rocks is smaller than that which would lower cost. Insurance is cheap too.
Cost to pick up at your home is reasonable.
Freight company can't touch that for individual shipments.
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Post by fernwood on Oct 22, 2017 9:26:05 GMT -5
I love how you are always sharing your knowledge with others. Whether it be on tumbles for specific materials, or something like this. Thank you!
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Post by melhill1659 on Oct 22, 2017 10:19:13 GMT -5
Wished I’d known that when I was in Utah!
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Post by melhill1659 on Oct 22, 2017 10:25:53 GMT -5
Hey Jim would that awesome wife of yours mind spend the night company Saturday night? Chris an I are heading to WH right now and class will be ending Friday. We’ll spend Friday night there and get up in time to meet an affiliated Gem&Min Group right outside Atlanta Saturday morning at 10 to Rockhound jasper! After Rock Licking all day we want to visit you and then drive back Sunday. What ya think? Gotta cot in that studio apartment?
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Post by jamesp on Oct 22, 2017 18:37:05 GMT -5
I love how you are always sharing your knowledge with others. Whether it be on tumbles for specific materials, or something like this. Thank you! Thanks fernwood. I ship a lot of freight. The Fed Ex ground 100 to 150 pounds has saved a lot of money. It's about the best deal out there.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 22, 2017 18:38:30 GMT -5
Hey Jim would that awesome wife of yours mind spend the night company Saturday night? Chris an I are heading to WH right now and class will be ending Friday. We’ll spend Friday night there and get up in time to meet an affiliated Gem&Min Group right outside Atlanta Saturday morning at 10 to Rockhound jasper! After Rock Licking all day we want to visit you and then drive back Sunday. What ya think? Gotta cot in that studio apartment? Y'all come on over. as far as I know we have no plans. Wife in Hawaii, I'll ask her if we will be here then.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 22, 2017 18:56:41 GMT -5
Wished I’d known that when I was in Utah! You do need to set up an account Melissa. It's easy. You can schedule a pick up where ever you are. Well, they don't have 4WD lol. They would have picked up at your Utah hotel. I think. I would check to make sure. Maybe they would pick up rocks in croaker sacks. As long as you can get the shipping label on it. You could print 150 pound labels for your size boxes at home. Take them to your destiny. Or drive to closest Fed Ex facility at your destiny. Stick them on the boxes at your destiny and have them pickup. Picking up 1 or 10 boxes costs the same. Get refunds on the labels you may not use. I travelled all over collecting live aquatic plants and was constantly sending them home.
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Post by kevin24018 on Oct 23, 2017 10:01:22 GMT -5
It's darn cheap. 36" X 36" X 12" anywhere from $75 to $160 from Atlanta Georgia to lower 48. $160 being west coast. Delivered to consignee's residence. A 150 pound box of rocks is smaller than that which would lower cost. Insurance is cheap too. Cost to pick up at your home is reasonable. Freight company can't touch that for individual shipments. I'm guessing you couldn't split the lot up into large flat rates? just wondering how that might have compared provided they would fit and you don't have some monsters in there.
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Post by catmandewe on Oct 23, 2017 12:18:00 GMT -5
a box 36 x 36 x 12" filled full of rock is going to weigh quite a bit more than 150 lbs, the same area using flat rate boxes would be 18 large flat rate boxes, I can get 40-55 lbs in a large flat rate box so going by only 40 lbs each that would be 720 lbs.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 23, 2017 14:24:32 GMT -5
a box 36 x 36 x 12" filled full of rock is going to weigh quite a bit more than 150 lbs, the same area using flat rate boxes would be 18 large flat rate boxes, I can get 40-55 lbs in a large flat rate box so going by only 40 lbs each that would be 720 lbs. Tony Sorry Tony. what I meant was that it costs $75 to $160 to ship a 36 X 36 X 12 inch fire pit that weighs 150 pounds. Yes, a 150 pound box of rocks would be smaller. And a bit cheaper because it would be smaller than 36 X 36 X 12. 50 pounds in a large flat rate box is a better bargain. The only gain in using the 150 pound Fed Ex arrangement is them picking up closer to where you are collecting in the event you are at remote locations. Instead of making a trip to the post office when staying in remote locations. And often waiting in lines at the post office with a bunch of heavy boxes. kevin24018The Fed Ex deal is simply a logistics advantage if sending rocks home from remote locations as mentioned above. LFRB are about the best money saving deal around. Perhaps not the best when on site collecting and post office is 30 miles away. I suppose the USPS could also be arranged to pick up at such a remote area too. If you were collecting big rocks then the Fed ex deal may be an advantage.
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Post by johnjsgems on Oct 24, 2017 13:26:49 GMT -5
If you ship a lot you can get better FedEx rates with a FedEx account. Retail customers pay more. I used FedEx and UPS. I think UPS is 20% and for higher volume senders 30% off retail rates. If you routinely ship a lot contact a customer service rep at Fedex and ask for a better rate. Once you have the account you can print labels and drop off at any Office Max/Office Depot if on the road. That is what I do in Denver and Tucson.
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Post by orrum on Oct 24, 2017 18:42:34 GMT -5
I sent 450 pound of rock in large flat rate boxes from Utah to SC. It took 9 boxes. That's expensive!!!
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Post by jamesp on Oct 25, 2017 10:02:54 GMT -5
If you ship a lot you can get better FedEx rates with a FedEx account. Retail customers pay more. I used FedEx and UPS. I think UPS is 20% and for higher volume senders 30% off retail rates. If you routinely ship a lot contact a customer service rep at Fedex and ask for a better rate. Once you have the account you can print labels and drop off at any Office Max/Office Depot if on the road. That is what I do in Denver and Tucson. Yep, Fed Ex is hard to beat for those that ship fairly frequently. In my case they smash freight companies from 100 to 150 pounds. Have not tried Fex Ex Freight. Freight and Ground separate. Lots of new freight/delivery companies getting into the growing home delivery biz.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 25, 2017 10:04:12 GMT -5
I sent 450 pound of rock in large flat rate boxes from Utah to SC. It took 9 boxes. That's expensive!!! Freight would be more than 9 X $20 Bill. Lest you had a big account.
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Post by johnjsgems on Oct 27, 2017 12:57:11 GMT -5
I opened my FedEx account in order to two party ship a slab saw from MK to Canada. After that FedEx hounded me to switch to FedEx. I had a customer service rep that gave me great rates (always cheaper than my discounted UPS rates. FedEx seems to handle fragile better than UPS too. I do ship most orders by USPS. Smaller, lighter items you can't beat USPS. Free boxes adds up too. UPS drives me crazy when shipping larger light weight boxes. They charge "equivalent weight". I asked them what that meas and they explained a large box takes up more room in truck so they charge more if box is light. They lose all light package orders to USPS. Only advantage to UPS here is the driver goes by here daily. A text gets her to drop by for free. Costs me a box of candy every Christmas. Welcome to Mayberry.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2017 1:18:50 GMT -5
I opened my FedEx account in order to two party ship a slab saw from MK to Canada. After that FedEx hounded me to switch to FedEx. I had a customer service rep that gave me great rates (always cheaper than my discounted UPS rates. FedEx seems to handle fragile better than UPS too. I do ship most orders by USPS. Smaller, lighter items you can't beat USPS. Free boxes adds up too. UPS drives me crazy when shipping larger light weight boxes. They charge "equivalent weight". I asked them what that meas and they explained a large box takes up more room in truck so they charge more if box is light. They lose all light package orders to USPS. Only advantage to UPS here is the driver goes by here daily. A text gets her to drop by for free. Costs me a box of candy every Christmas. Welcome to Mayberry. Fed Ex Ground in this area has gone to contractors. In my case the contractor serving me is under strict scrutiny by Fed Ex Corporate. He gave me his number to text him a day in advance and often morning of pick up. As if he prefers to keep the communication between us and him. At first it appeared to be welcome to Mayberry but he wants to keep corporate guys out of it. You may check to see if you have the same contractor arrangement in your area. UPS problematic and more costly on majority of smaller packages. USPS hard to beat on smaller. Add free shipping materials.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 11:02:54 GMT -5
I opened my FedEx account in order to two party ship a slab saw from MK to Canada. After that FedEx hounded me to switch to FedEx. I had a customer service rep that gave me great rates (always cheaper than my discounted UPS rates. FedEx seems to handle fragile better than UPS too. I do ship most orders by USPS. Smaller, lighter items you can't beat USPS. Free boxes adds up too. UPS drives me crazy when shipping larger light weight boxes. They charge "equivalent weight". I asked them what that meas and they explained a large box takes up more room in truck so they charge more if box is light. They lose all light package orders to USPS. Only advantage to UPS here is the driver goes by here daily. A text gets her to drop by for free. Costs me a box of candy every Christmas. Welcome to Mayberry. Fed Ex Ground in this area has gone to contractors. In my case the contractor serving me is under strict scrutiny by Fed Ex Corporate. He gave me his number to text him a day in advance and often morning of pick up. As if he prefers to keep the communication between us and him. At first it appeared to be welcome to Mayberry but he wants to keep corporate guys out of it. You may check to see if you have the same contractor arrangement in your area. UPS problematic and more costly on majority of smaller packages. USPS hard to beat on smaller. Add free shipping materials. It's contractors in my area for FedEx as well. I think that is how they keep costs down. Keep the teamsters out by using 1099 folks
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Post by johnjsgems on Oct 28, 2017 12:12:08 GMT -5
FedEx contractors here too. I had twice a week scheduled pick up but only works if shipping a lot. $12.50 per week if you meet their minimum, $25 otherwise. Summer is brutal with sometimes zero orders for a week or two. Had to cancel. USPS the best here for anything I can fit in my oversized rural mail box.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 28, 2017 12:24:46 GMT -5
Fed Ex Ground in this area has gone to contractors. In my case the contractor serving me is under strict scrutiny by Fed Ex Corporate. He gave me his number to text him a day in advance and often morning of pick up. As if he prefers to keep the communication between us and him. At first it appeared to be welcome to Mayberry but he wants to keep corporate guys out of it. You may check to see if you have the same contractor arrangement in your area. UPS problematic and more costly on majority of smaller packages. USPS hard to beat on smaller. Add free shipping materials. It's contractors in my area for FedEx as well. I think that is how they keep costs down. Keep the teamsters out by using 1099 folks Interesting observation. Perhaps this is the result: The owner of that contract does not(capitalized) want you to call the help line. Which I did innocently to inquire about a missed pick up one time. Owner called minutes later begging not to call help line. Gave his cell and asked to please deal with him direct. Fed Ex corporate must control those contractors with iron fist. I have yet to be charged a pick up charge. More than glad to pay it, but he never charges for it. I did save him money by training his drivers to load my bread and butter 148 pound fire pits using my hydraulic lift. That saves him having the delivery truck head back to headquarters and pick up a helper required to assist the 148 pound loading job. 148 pound pit to California via motor freight $250 to $350 to curbside. 148 pound pit to California Via Fed Ex $145 to $160 to door step. + shorter delivery time. Shipped to Susan in Fullerton, CA on OCT 25,2017. Photo emailed yesterday. 2 days ship time. First out of about 50 this year of these 148 pounders to have damage. Not bad. $600 insurance costs $4. She can have it free and I will get reimbursed insurance and shipping so Fed Ex says. Curious about ease of collecting. Her photo, base is bent:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 12:39:56 GMT -5
You have that shit tuned. Sad I won't see the operation......
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