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Post by jamesp on Nov 19, 2017 19:20:15 GMT -5
I might have to try my iPad for rock pictures. I have the 10.5 inch iPad Pro, so it has the same camera as the iPhone 7. No fancy lighting used Rob. Incandescent lamp from left, fluorescent from right. Mine is iPad Pro 9.7 2017. If you put the rocks on a white background it changes the whole game so beware. So the light sensor's location needs to be looked into, I have no idea how or where it samples. And it is probably programmable, or perhaps averages the whole subject. I am certain the light sensor was effected by the brown back drop. White backdrop washed the rock's colors, so beware. The iPad was set on the first kitchen item I picked up, a candy tin and was 6.5 inches tall. The magnification was zero magnification. Even 40% magnification lowered photo quality so I would move pad further/closer at zero mag to alter magnification. The touch screen shutter is virtually shake free as it activates without even touching the button, nice feature. By the way those were in the vibe for 32 hours using only AO 220/Borax. Don't you Lot-O guys get killer polish with only SiC 220 and AO 500 ? These were pulled from rotary running SiC 30, then to the AO 220.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 19, 2017 19:24:15 GMT -5
Some of the close up photos on this forum have blown me away Tela. Got an old cell phone but a new iPad. So the IPad registered as a alternate new camera. I looked at an S8 Galaxy recently and decided funds were not available for such an expense. You must guard that phone with your life. I have the S8 and & the photos are alright. Might be me as the photographer tho. Best phone I had for pictures was the LG Close up photos can dance to a different drummer. Some cameras do not behave doing macro's. Composing the photo with the giant screen was a total pleasure. Like a full size screen photo in real time. Sweet
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Post by jamesp on Nov 19, 2017 19:38:32 GMT -5
Take note of your cameras Native Resolution which represents the maximum capability of the sensor in the camera. Any higher resolution offered in software is just upscaled from the native resolution. I think i know what you are saying woofer. Like a 12M camera has max resolution of 12M without digital enhancement(I believe). There are other factors: The native resolution provides the exact measurements of the image in pixels, width x height. For instance a 4:3 ratio 12MP resolution camera would have a 4000 x 3000 pixels sensor. This number is not significantly important. Most important are the digital camera's sensor size and its resolution performance in the real world.
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Post by Wooferhound on Nov 19, 2017 19:55:19 GMT -5
Camera manufactures will claim More megapixels than the Native Resolution is capable of. Any claim over the Max Native Resolution is digital magic to upscale the image.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 19, 2017 20:01:55 GMT -5
I might have to try my iPad for rock pictures. I have the 10.5 inch iPad Pro, so it has the same camera as the iPhone 7. No fancy lighting used Rob. Incandescent lamp from left, fluorescent from right. Mine is iPad Pro 9.7 2017. If you put the rocks on a white background it changes the whole game so beware. So the light sensor's location needs to be looked into, I have no idea how or where it samples. And it is probably programmable, or perhaps averages the whole subject. I am certain the light sensor was effected by the brown back drop. White backdrop washed the rock's colors, so beware. The iPad was set on the first kitchen item I picked up, a candy tin and was 6.5 inches tall. The magnification was zero magnification. Even 40% magnification lowered photo quality so I would move pad further/closer at zero mag to alter magnification. The touch screen shutter is virtually shake free as it activates without even touching the button, nice feature. By the way those were in the vibe for 32 hours using only AO 220/Borax. Don't you Lot-O guys get killer polish with only SiC 220 and AO 500 ? These were pulled from rotary running SiC 30, then to the AO 220. I was hoping you had a regular iPad. Your iPad has a really good camera too. I really like white backgrounds, so I'll have to play around with it.
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Post by MsAli on Nov 19, 2017 21:00:11 GMT -5
I have the S8 and & the photos are alright. Might be me as the photographer tho. Best phone I had for pictures was the LG Close up photos can dance to a different drummer. Some cameras do not behave doing macro's. Composing the photo with the giant screen was a total pleasure. Like a full size screen photo in real time. Sweet The pictures you took came out great I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab that I've never used the camera on but am going to try it out
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Post by Garage Rocker on Nov 19, 2017 22:39:23 GMT -5
By the way, nice bunch of tumbles, jamesp.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 19, 2017 23:45:35 GMT -5
No fancy lighting used Rob. Incandescent lamp from left, fluorescent from right. Mine is iPad Pro 9.7 2017. If you put the rocks on a white background it changes the whole game so beware. So the light sensor's location needs to be looked into, I have no idea how or where it samples. And it is probably programmable, or perhaps averages the whole subject. I am certain the light sensor was effected by the brown back drop. White backdrop washed the rock's colors, so beware. The iPad was set on the first kitchen item I picked up, a candy tin and was 6.5 inches tall. The magnification was zero magnification. Even 40% magnification lowered photo quality so I would move pad further/closer at zero mag to alter magnification. The touch screen shutter is virtually shake free as it activates without even touching the button, nice feature. By the way those were in the vibe for 32 hours using only AO 220/Borax. Don't you Lot-O guys get killer polish with only SiC 220 and AO 500 ? These were pulled from rotary running SiC 30, then to the AO 220. I was hoping you had a regular iPad. Your iPad has a really good camera too. I really like white backgrounds, so I'll have to play around with it. It says iPad on the back, not iPad Pro. Maybe it is a plain iPad.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 19, 2017 23:46:49 GMT -5
By the way, nice bunch of tumbles, jamesp. Thank you, thank the Rio too !
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Post by jamesp on Nov 19, 2017 23:48:43 GMT -5
Close up photos can dance to a different drummer. Some cameras do not behave doing macro's. Composing the photo with the giant screen was a total pleasure. Like a full size screen photo in real time. Sweet The pictures you took came out great I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab that I've never used the camera on but am going to try it out Please post if you get a chance. First time this iPad camera was ever used.
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Post by MsAli on Nov 20, 2017 0:14:08 GMT -5
The pictures you took came out great I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab that I've never used the camera on but am going to try it out Please post if you get a chance. First time this iPad camera was ever used. I'll post some progress pictures of my Botswanas this week for you. I am interested to compare the pictures between that and my phone
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2017 3:11:55 GMT -5
Please post if you get a chance. First time this iPad camera was ever used. I'll post some progress pictures of my Botswanas this week for you. I am interested to compare the pictures between that and my phone Looking at this cell phone camera, there has been more focus on the camera in a cell phone by the highest technically competent camera designer people in the world. The finest cameras and most popular cameras in the world have received a tiny dose of of technical attention compared to cell cameras. Cell cameras are still limited by their size but humans keep making stuff smaller and better. No telling what advances have been made. Add the powerful high tech photo processors to make it user friendly. Some of the richest companies in the world like Samsung, Apple, Motorola, LG seriously competing to make the best phone is a recipe for serious technology explosion. Cell phones are big money. I doubt those companies are sharing the 'how to's'. Try to rest the phone on something to hold it still. Close ups are sensitive to shaking if you did not already know.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2017 3:33:47 GMT -5
Camera manufactures will claim More megapixels than the Native Resolution is capable of. Any claim over the Max Native Resolution is digital magic to upscale the image. The auto setting on this iPad does take an upscale image. It is not over the top but it is certainly bringing out the best the subject has to offer for a computer size image. Digital cameras this tiny do not normally perform this well. No telling what technology is being pumped into it. Digital cameras has never been a megabillion dollar industry until cell phones came along. False advertising in the cell phone biz is alive and well, lol, whatever they tell you it is going to cost...double it. Still amazed at this camera though. The technical guys did their job well.
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Post by MsAli on Nov 20, 2017 11:09:32 GMT -5
I'll post some progress pictures of my Botswanas this week for you. I am interested to compare the pictures between that and my phone Looking at this cell phone camera, there has been more focus on the camera in a cell phone by the highest technically competent camera designer people in the world. The finest cameras and most popular cameras in the world have received a tiny dose of of technical attention compared to cell cameras. Cell cameras are still limited by their size but humans keep making stuff smaller and better. No telling what advances have been made. Add the powerful high tech photo processors to make it user friendly. Some of the richest companies in the world like Samsung, Apple, Motorola, LG seriously competing to make the best phone is a recipe for serious technology explosion. Cell phones are big money. I doubt those companies are sharing the 'how to's'. Try to rest the phone on something to hold it still. Close ups are sensitive to shaking if you did not already know. It is so easy to carry around a phone than it is a camera and all its accessories. Unless you are a professional photographer it really doesn't make sense to have one anymore. It seems more and more people though are going back to cameras though rather than using the cells for photos. My friend just got the Nikon D850 & holy cow does that take incredible photos, but again he is a semi-pro photographer so for him it makes sense.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Nov 20, 2017 18:42:56 GMT -5
I was hoping you had a regular iPad. Your iPad has a really good camera too. I really like white backgrounds, so I'll have to play around with it. It says iPad on the back, not iPad Pro. Maybe it is a plain iPad. iPad Pros just say "iPad" on the back. If you want to know what you have, go to settings, find "model" in the list. You may have to click on it. It toggles between two numbers on mine. If you have a first generation iPad Pro it should say: A1673 on the iPad Pro A1674 or A1675 on the iPad Pro Wi-Fi + Cellular According to this page on Apple's site, it's also printed on the back. On mine it was microscopic, so I couldn't read it, even with my cheaters on.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2017 19:49:07 GMT -5
It says iPad on the back, not iPad Pro. Maybe it is a plain iPad. iPad Pros just say "iPad" on the back. If you want to know what you have, go to settings, find "model" in the list. You may have to click on it. It toggles between two numbers on mine. If you have a first generation iPad Pro it should say: A1673 on the iPad Pro A1674 or A1675 on the iPad Pro Wi-Fi + Cellular According to this page on Apple's site, it's also printed on the back. On mine it was microscopic, so I couldn't read it, even with my cheaters on. It said model MM1A2LL/A Rob. Says iPad Pro when I Googled it.
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Post by jamesp on Nov 20, 2017 20:08:19 GMT -5
Looking at this cell phone camera, there has been more focus on the camera in a cell phone by the highest technically competent camera designer people in the world. The finest cameras and most popular cameras in the world have received a tiny dose of of technical attention compared to cell cameras. Cell cameras are still limited by their size but humans keep making stuff smaller and better. No telling what advances have been made. Add the powerful high tech photo processors to make it user friendly. Some of the richest companies in the world like Samsung, Apple, Motorola, LG seriously competing to make the best phone is a recipe for serious technology explosion. Cell phones are big money. I doubt those companies are sharing the 'how to's'. Try to rest the phone on something to hold it still. Close ups are sensitive to shaking if you did not already know. It is so easy to carry around a phone than it is a camera and all its accessories. Unless you are a professional photographer it really doesn't make sense to have one anymore. It seems more and more people though are going back to cameras though rather than using the cells for photos. My friend just got the Nikon D850 & holy cow does that take incredible photos, but again he is a semi-pro photographer so for him it makes sense.
I have had several point and shoots and complained about their performance. They are often good at certain type shots. The photos form those expensive DSLR's are stand out. The problem with close up shots is they test the camera and operator. Even if you have an expensive macro setup the lighting is tricky and the camera has to be dead still. Depth of field, close ups a pain. The photographers on this forum are darn good. Some pros. Some as good as. That cell camera makes nice close ups easy easy. And a better job than about 4 point and shoots I have tried.
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Post by MsAli on Nov 21, 2017 1:31:18 GMT -5
It is so easy to carry around a phone than it is a camera and all its accessories. Unless you are a professional photographer it really doesn't make sense to have one anymore. It seems more and more people though are going back to cameras though rather than using the cells for photos. My friend just got the Nikon D850 & holy cow does that take incredible photos, but again he is a semi-pro photographer so for him it makes sense.
I have had several point and shoots and complained about their performance. They are often good at certain type shots. The photos form those expensive DSLR's are stand out. The problem with close up shots is they test the camera and operator. Even if you have an expensive macro setup the lighting is tricky and the camera has to be dead still. Depth of field, close ups a pain. The photographers on this forum are darn good. Some pros. Some as good as. That cell camera makes nice close ups easy easy. And a better job than about 4 point and shoots I have tried. Agree completely
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Post by txrockhunter on Nov 24, 2017 8:38:52 GMT -5
Great tumbles & photos, James! The variety in those Rios is amazing.
I just got the Galaxy 8 and have been somewhat disappointed with the picture quality. The focus seams a little soft with the auto-focus. It got a little sharper, when I used thee manual focus in pro mode. I do think I got better photos from the 6. Or, maybe the dslr has made my expectations too lofty.... I still have a long way to go, to get to Randy's quality!
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Post by MsAli on Nov 24, 2017 9:50:33 GMT -5
Great tumbles & photos, James! The variety in those Rios is amazing. I just got the Galaxy 8 and have been somewhat disappointed with the picture quality. The focus seams a little soft with the auto-focus. It got a little sharper, when I used thee manual focus in pro mode. I do think I got better photos from the 6. Or, maybe the dslr has made my expectations too lofty.... I still have a long way to go, to get to Randy's quality! How did you get to the pro mode? On my 7 it was easy to do, now with the 8+ I can't figure it out.
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