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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 20, 2017 15:12:23 GMT -5
I'm going stir crazy. Still haven't been able to find the right nails to use glue for dopping. So, I wrap.
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Post by orrum on Nov 20, 2017 15:49:49 GMT -5
Use cheapest super glue and coated nails. Let it sit for st least 24 hours.
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zarguy
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Post by zarguy on Nov 20, 2017 15:58:39 GMT -5
rockjunquie - Tela Here's the nail I use for dopping: I get them from Home Depot. I cut about an inch off the sharp end & then grind the end smooth. I also flatten the top with a disk sander. It's supposed to be for wood, but it can handle a little metal. Sometimes I make the top small, square, or oval to fit smaller cabs. Lynn
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 20, 2017 16:04:28 GMT -5
Love this wrap. I like how you broke up the blue in the lapis with the wire to add some visual interest.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 20, 2017 16:07:46 GMT -5
rockjunquie - Tela Here's the nail I use for dopping: I get them from Home Depot. I cut about an inch off the sharp end & then grind the end smooth. I also flatten the top with a disk sander. It's supposed to be for wood, but it can handle a little metal. Sometimes I make the top small, square, or oval to fit smaller cabs. Lynn Thank you. I got an assortment of sizes from Lowe's, but the heads are heavily textured. I'm not sure I have the right tools to flatten them. And, they are coated with plastic. I got some nails with smooth heads and no coating, but they are too thin. There has to be one juuuust right. Looks like the one in your picture is a 16D or 20D? I liked those sizes. DH has a hobby belt sander with 120 grit, I believe. Do you think that would work to flatten the heads?
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 20, 2017 16:08:55 GMT -5
Use cheapest super glue and coated nails. Let it sit for st least 24 hours. The super glue should dry for 24 hrs? Have you ever used accelerator spray?
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Post by Pat on Nov 20, 2017 16:12:29 GMT -5
Not a secret. Flat headed nails. Diameter of head big enough for your stone. Long part a comfortable fit for your hand.
I prefer not dopping. I have more control.
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Post by Pat on Nov 20, 2017 16:13:02 GMT -5
And Loctite gel. It Hot Stuff gel.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 20, 2017 16:19:07 GMT -5
I was just looking up aluminum rods on amazon. Maybe that's a way to go.
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zarguy
fully equipped rock polisher
Cedar City, Utah - rockhound heaven!
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Post by zarguy on Nov 20, 2017 16:36:13 GMT -5
rockjunquie - Tela Here's the nail I use for dopping: I get them from Home Depot. I cut about an inch off the sharp end & then grind the end smooth. I also flatten the top with a disk sander. It's supposed to be for wood, but it can handle a little metal. Sometimes I make the top small, square, or oval to fit smaller cabs. Lynn Thank you. I got an assortment of sizes from Lowe's, but the heads are heavily textured. I'm not sure I have the right tools to flatten them. And, they are coated with plastic. I got some nails with smooth heads and no coating, but they are too thin. There has to be one juuuust right. Looks like the one in your picture is a 16D or 20D? I liked those sizes. DH has a hobby belt sander with 120 grit, I believe. Do you think that would work to flatten the heads? 120 grit sandpaper in a disk or belt will do the trick. You just need to hold the nail perpendicular to the sandpaper. I only let the superglue dry for an hour or so. Sometimes less with really thin stuff. Lynn
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Post by orrum on Nov 20, 2017 17:41:34 GMT -5
I use the coated nails with the textured x's. That way they come off easier. Oh I do the 80 grit wheel and the 200 grit wheel with no dop. Then I dop them.
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Post by fernwood on Nov 20, 2017 18:30:50 GMT -5
I love the negative space in this. Highlights the stone and the metal wrap. Nails. Used to know someone who used coated, square head nails. They were a specialty product in the day. He was a contractor and also used these for is business. The heads were large, say 5/8" across. He ground them down as needed. The coating was thicker on the shaft of the nail than the head. He said they worked great for holding the rocks he was shaping on, of all things, various industrial grinders. He was not cabbing, but tumbling them, drilling holes for instant necklaces and keychains. He also used some for jewelry settings, but not many.
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Post by rockjunquie on Nov 20, 2017 19:16:25 GMT -5
I use the coated nails with the textured x's. That way they come off easier. Oh I do the 80 grit wheel and the 200 grit wheel with no dop. Then I dop them. I tried to glue on the x's and it didn't work.
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Post by Pat on Nov 20, 2017 19:20:47 GMT -5
Both Loctite gel and Hot Stuff gel dry in a few minutes.
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Post by notjustone on Nov 20, 2017 23:27:44 GMT -5
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zarguy
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Post by zarguy on Nov 21, 2017 0:17:14 GMT -5
10 in is pretty long. I'd cut them down to about 4 1/2 in. Hot dipped galvanized means a rough surface. Probably not too comfortable on the hands. Lynn
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Post by Pat on Nov 21, 2017 0:18:51 GMT -5
10 in is pretty long. I'd cut them down to about 4 1/2 in. Lynn Yes, and soften the pointy tip so you can’t get jabbed.
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Post by parfive on Nov 21, 2017 0:41:53 GMT -5
You have bad hands, right? If you don’t get aluminum gutter spikes, hammer your little nails into a piece of dowel stock or broomstick so you have something substantial to hold on to.
Heads ain’t flat enough for ya? A pinch of 60/90 or 120/220 and a drop of water on a piece of glass’ll fix that in a jiff.
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Post by vegasjames on Nov 21, 2017 5:12:05 GMT -5
Great wrap.
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56steve
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Post by 56steve on Nov 21, 2017 5:40:34 GMT -5
beautiful job on your wrap....
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