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Post by phil on Jan 2, 2018 22:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by phil on Jan 3, 2018 14:02:59 GMT -5
You're talking about the stuff posted by Steve Tackett? The stuff in the buckets is turquoise rough the way it comes out of the ground. The other photos are polished examples of the variety that is in those buckets. Turquoise comes in 2 main colors, depending on how much iron or other mineral is in the chemical makeup, and even then there are hundreds of color tints, matrix colors, etc etc. I've seen colors ranging from Army green to sky blue, tannish tinted to a very pale blue. Why? Do you think it is something else? A fair reference of only a few of the more known and expensive mine material is here: tucsonturquoise.com/?page_id=28 |
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Post by fernwood on Jan 3, 2018 18:51:46 GMT -5
Loved what you posted on 1/1, and wished I could jump on it. Beautiful Turquoise for sure. I have some of the same. When purchased in the 1980's it was labeled as Sleeping Beauty. From a reputable place at the time, Thunderbird supply in Gallup, NM. Mine did not have the brownish areas, just the light blue, blacks, whites and silvers. Looks almost identical to those without the brown. Slightly stabilized, but not enough to deter from the beauty of the turquoise. I also purchased some with the brownish areas, that was attributed to Kingston. Just a thought.
Still have some rough of each and cabs I made in the 1980's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 19:04:28 GMT -5
You're talking about the stuff posted by Steve Tackett? The stuff in the buckets is turquoise rough the way it comes out of the ground. The other photos are polished examples of the variety that is in those buckets. Turquoise comes in 2 main colors, depending on how much iron or other mineral is in the chemical makeup, and even then there are hundreds of color tints, matrix colors, etc etc. I've seen colors ranging from Army green to sky blue, tannish tinted to a very pale blue. Why? Do you think it is something else? A fair reference of only a few of the more known and expensive mine material is here: tucsonturquoise.com/?page_id=28You changed your post.  Yes. I'm saying it ain't Turquoise and doubt it's a phosphate of any kind. I'll allow metals can vary with iron poisoning the blue color occasionally. But no matter what, it's gotta be a phosphate or its misrepresenting the material. |
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Post by phil on Jan 3, 2018 20:09:24 GMT -5
Interesting. Didn't change my post, but others may have changed theirs..... you are welcome to contact the seller and see what he says.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 20:40:46 GMT -5
Interesting. Didn't change my post, but others may have changed theirs..... you are welcome to contact the seller and see what he says. About him all but admitting his mines were illegal and unnamed? Naw, not worth contacting him. The turquoise world is a very strange religion. |
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Post by fernwood on Jan 3, 2018 22:00:34 GMT -5
Interesting. Didn't change my post, but others may have changed theirs..... you are welcome to contact the seller and see what he says. About him all but admitting his mines were illegal and unnamed? Naw, not worth contacting him. The turquoise world is a very strange religion. Yes Turquoise is very eclectic, lack of a better word. Many varieties of stones out there that are claimed to be turquoise. I am a purest. Must be traditional turquoise. Old stock, or from an established mine. Still love the old stuff, from the Southwest USA. Specimens from other countries do not match the quality or refining ability. There are till some active USA mines that are producing beautiful items, but are not traditional turquoise to me. JMHO. |
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Post by phil on Jan 3, 2018 22:29:30 GMT -5
Interesting. Didn't change my post, but others may have changed theirs..... you are welcome to contact the seller and see what he says. About him all but admitting his mines were illegal and unnamed? Naw, not worth contacting him. The turquoise world is a very strange religion. You sure you have the right person in mind? I'll keep your concerns in mind, but cannot boot him or anything on just one complaint when many others are happy with what he sells. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:42:18 GMT -5
About him all but admitting his mines were illegal and unnamed? Naw, not worth contacting him. The turquoise world is a very strange religion. You sure you have the right person in mind? I'll keep your concerns in mind, but cannot boot him or anything on just one complaint when many others are happy with what he sells. Sincere and deeply humble apologies. I did have you confused. I received a private message from another party whom does indeed consider that particular seller dishonest at best. I do believe you could require he substantiate his claim of turquoise for all or some of his materials. What if he is selling chrysocolla as turquoise? |
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Post by phil on Jan 4, 2018 13:41:43 GMT -5
If he is indeed a bad vendor, the market i/e sellers will post on the forum and I can get involved at that point. So far, in all his postings on my board and several other turquoise focused boards, I have seen none. Actually, I've seen the opposite, where several knowledgeable turquoise folks have all been happy with the many different types and quality of turquoise he sells. I will keep an eye on it.
He also goes to many shows like Tucson and Quartzite, etc to sell his turquoise, and I've not heard any grumblings on any of the forums from that either. Perhaps you just ran into an single unhappy customer. IT happens.
I had one guy unhappy with me over some turquoise inlay powder I sold him, he wanted his money back. He claimed when he opened the package, the powder went all over the floor. This is a guy that makes knives, btw. I said OK, return the product along with all the packaging. NO, I can't do that, the powder went all over the floor. OK send me pics of the packaging. No, can't do that either. (This was on the same day the USPS delivered). I asked him to explain how the powder managed to go all over when it is shipped in a sealed plastic baggie, taped to a multi folded packing slip, sealed inside a bubble wrap ripstop envelope. He decided to cancel his request. I believe he opened the package with a swipe of one of his knife blades, cut thru everything, and bingo. He spilled it thru his own carelessness and was trying to scam me out of a free replacement, plus postage to ship it!. Point is, we all get grumpy customers once in a while, but when there are many other happy customers who are not complaining, I have to believe the majority is right.
Thanks again!
Thanks.
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