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Post by MsAli on Jan 21, 2018 14:16:26 GMT -5
jamespThe white Confetti need to see more pics The far right need to see more of The light blue vase need to see more of And for bleep and giggle the blue and orange one Thank you I think you may have found a couple of nice pieces
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Post by jamesp on Jan 21, 2018 16:33:25 GMT -5
jamespThe white Confetti need to see more pics The far right need to see more of The light blue vase need to see more of And for bleep and giggle the blue and orange one Thank you I think you may have found a couple of nice pieces You must have slept late. I was waiting for you this morning to do appraisals. The light blue sounds like the blue with a white inner layer. Polish, new sticky label on bottom. Crunched it. Blue with orange inner layer is crunched. It was actually 4 layers, from inside - orange to white to blue to clear. The far right, clear w/stripes was held out. Confetti/white ? Going back to look at photos. Looked back, not sure which is the white confetti ?? Forgot to mention, the big glass thrift shop owner said he would trade some of his less valuable stock for a valuable piece. He is a very knowledgeable glass man. So f I found a valuable piece elsewhere he would entertain a trade. Then he could price the more valuable piece accordingly for his well educated clientele and the piece would escape unscathed.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 21, 2018 18:10:12 GMT -5
James what did I say about crunching glass before I give input....sigh.... The white one with the colored blobs, is called a confetti, please tell me it is still intact???
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Post by MsAli on Jan 21, 2018 18:10:42 GMT -5
What sticker was on that blue one?
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Post by fernwood on Jan 21, 2018 18:17:57 GMT -5
Dried plants/roots were mixed with the powdered glass. Remember using blood root (the roots) and black walnut husks.They were powdered. There were others.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 21, 2018 18:51:27 GMT -5
James what did I say about crunching glass before I give input....sigh.... The white one with the colored blobs, is called a confetti, please tell me it is still intact??? The blue one had a sticker in caps "MADE IN POLAND" right on the bottom where it was partially rubbed off. It looked very machine made. The confetti was found in a dump shop and may have been overlooked by collectors. It and the yellow one in the photo below looked like they were expensive. Yes it was hammered. I have a busy week and only had today to get them broke up and tumbling. I waited till 11AM. Oh, that's 8AM out your way. I may have messed up on the confetti. Especially because it was found in a junkie thrift shop high on a tall shelf and out of sight. It was thick with thick white inner layer. Fine piece. This is the yellow with sort of a swirl of colors, it was also found in an obtuse little thrift shop. ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4653/25951019158_2992283de4_b.jpg) This is the one on the far right that you guys said not to smash: ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4749/28045490359_84846d56d4_b.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4699/39114375124_0136fa9275_c.jpg) ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4694/39114431924_dde9341ea2_z.jpg)
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Post by MsAli on Jan 21, 2018 18:54:51 GMT -5
Please for the love of God tell me it didn't look this this ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/07fd1dfa3d27ac2d544ef64882a4c4e9.jpg)
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Post by MsAli on Jan 21, 2018 19:11:16 GMT -5
That swirly piece is beautiful.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 21, 2018 19:12:18 GMT -5
Please for the love of God tell me it didn't look this this ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/07fd1dfa3d27ac2d544ef64882a4c4e9.jpg) Rut row, that's exactly the one. How much ?
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Post by toolnut on Jan 21, 2018 19:47:09 GMT -5
Did first pot melt today as a test. Just shut off the Glass kiln about an hour ago. At that Temperature, you can't see anything as to results until it cools down. Everything is one color, bright yellow. programmed 3 segments. Ramped to 500F at 500F per hour, held for 15 minutes, ramped to 1000F at 500F per hour, held for 15 minutes, then to 1600F at 1000F per hour, and hold for 2 hours, then Kiln shut off. Will be interesting tomorrow to see what kind of a mess I made. Various colors of scrap glass. cut up and stacked in layers. Looking forward to your creation toolnut . A mess ? Not, it will be a work of art. Please post photos. Why 1600F ? To drain pot well ? Did you use a terra cotta or ceramic pot ? Turned out with nice colors all through the glass, considering its scrap. Had to break it up to get out of the mold. Had a pot failure. Melted handles off the pot and it fell into the mold pan. I guess that's what a test is for the first time. Next time will address the problems encountered. Plan to use Terra Cotta, but didn't have one so used a stainless steel Colinder with a lot of holes in ti and a stainless frying pan for the mold pan. Not ideal but OK for a test. Will use better molds and Pots the next time. Attachments:![](//storage.proboards.com/1258779/thumbnailer/zdzZngxEsZhIagdblOBe.png)
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Post by toolnut on Jan 21, 2018 19:53:36 GMT -5
Did first pot melt today as a test. Just shut off the Glass kiln about an hour ago. At that Temperature, you can't see anything as to results until it cools down. Everything is one color, bright yellow. programmed 3 segments. Ramped to 500F at 500F per hour, held for 15 minutes, ramped to 1000F at 500F per hour, held for 15 minutes, then to 1600F at 1000F per hour, and hold for 2 hours, then Kiln shut off. Will be interesting tomorrow to see what kind of a mess I made. Various colors of scrap glass. cut up and stacked in layers. Looking forward to your creation toolnut . A mess ? Not, it will be a work of art. Please post photos. Why 1600F ? To drain pot well ? Did you use a terra cotta or ceramic pot ? Went to 1600 to make sure the pot drained well, since the holes hwere smaller than what I have seen in other videos. Next time will back it off to the 1500 degree schedule for casting glass in mold, stored in the memory of the Kiln Controller by the Kiln Company.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 21, 2018 21:48:56 GMT -5
Have heard about pot melts going south toolnut. Sorry it happened. No doubt you will get it dialed in. I was going to begin with small tumble size in place melts to start. I watched one Youtube video that advised using a ceramic pot melt pot made for the purpose. said even terra cotta can be risky from a reliability situation. Suppose you could re-melt ?
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Post by toolnut on Jan 21, 2018 22:11:31 GMT -5
Have heard about pot melts going south toolnut . Sorry it happened. No doubt you will get it dialed in. I was going to begin with small tumble size in place melts to start. I watched one Youtube video that advised using a ceramic pot melt pot made for the purpose. said even terra cotta can be risky from a reliability situation. Suppose you could re-melt ? Yep, can remelt the small pieces. I have crucibles that I could melt the glass in but use them for metals like brass , copper, and silver, and didn't want to contaminate them. I also have several 4x4x20 blocks of graphite, which I can use to make some crucibles/molds in any shape I want. Before I do a melt that's risky, I put everything inside a stainless pan that's about 14 inches wide and 20 inches long, with 3 inch sides, so if there is a failure, the glass won't spill out on the kiln floor and mess up the kiln and is contained in the pan. Got them at Sams Club. I haven't used my tumblers in quite a while, and don't even know now which box the smaller tumblers are in. The 15 lb rotary one is available and the Mini Sonic Dual 4lb vib one is also out where I can get it. I have a bunch of cans full of tumbling compounds, but not sure where they are either. Have a couple of 5 gallon buckets of black Carborundum but that's pretty coarse. More experiments I suppose.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 21, 2018 22:27:51 GMT -5
Have heard about pot melts going south toolnut . Sorry it happened. No doubt you will get it dialed in. I was going to begin with small tumble size in place melts to start. I watched one Youtube video that advised using a ceramic pot melt pot made for the purpose. said even terra cotta can be risky from a reliability situation. Suppose you could re-melt ? Yep, can remelt the small pieces. I have crucibles that I could melt the glass in but use them for metals like brass , copper, and silver, and didn't want to contaminate them. I also have several 4x4x20 blocks of graphite, which I can use to make some crucibles/molds in any shape I want. Before I do a melt that's risky, I put everything inside a stainless pan that's about 14 inches wide and 20 inches long, with 3 inch sides, so if there is a failure, the glass won't spill out on the kiln floor and mess up the kiln and is contained in the pan. Got them at Sams Club. I haven't used my tumblers in quite a while, and don't even know now which box the smaller tumblers are in. The 15 lb rotary one is available and the Mini Sonic Dual 4lb vib one is also out where I can get it. I have a bunch of cans full of tumbling compounds, but not sure where they are either. Have a couple of 5 gallon buckets of black Carborundum but that's pretty coarse. More experiments I suppose.
So graphite can handle the temps and it makes reliable molds ? It's easy to carve a mold out in. Guess I am going to join a glass working forum. Not sure where I should be lol, kind of have the tumbling dialed in. Glass man, next adventure.
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Post by toolnut on Jan 21, 2018 23:15:59 GMT -5
Yep, can remelt the small pieces. I have crucibles that I could melt the glass in but use them for metals like brass , copper, and silver, and didn't want to contaminate them. I also have several 4x4x20 blocks of graphite, which I can use to make some crucibles/molds in any shape I want. Before I do a melt that's risky, I put everything inside a stainless pan that's about 14 inches wide and 20 inches long, with 3 inch sides, so if there is a failure, the glass won't spill out on the kiln floor and mess up the kiln and is contained in the pan. Got them at Sams Club. I haven't used my tumblers in quite a while, and don't even know now which box the smaller tumblers are in. The 15 lb rotary one is available and the Mini Sonic Dual 4lb vib one is also out where I can get it. I have a bunch of cans full of tumbling compounds, but not sure where they are either. Have a couple of 5 gallon buckets of black Carborundum but that's pretty coarse. More experiments I suppose.
So graphite can handle the temps and it makes reliable molds ? It's easy to carve a mold out in. Guess I am going to join a glass working forum. Not sure where I should be lol, kind of have the tumbling dialed in. Glass man, next adventure. Graphite is what Glass blowers use for some of their working tools and marble makers use graphite molds. I have used it to make molds for Jewels in restoration work on Windows and Lighting. That's my main Hobby. Antique Restorations, of Lighting and Stained Gass Windows mostly but other things too. You don't need a glass forum. You pretty well know everything you need to know by now, and what you don't, you can always find an answer to. If you want a Forum that's pretty well at the top of the glass list, it would be "WarmGlass" www.warmglass.com/phpBB3/index.php
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Post by fernwood on Jan 22, 2018 6:35:33 GMT -5
The purple one appears to be hand blown art glass, maybe Czech. Even if USA made, they are in shops around here for hundreds, if not more.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 22, 2018 8:11:13 GMT -5
The purple one appears to be hand blown art glass, maybe Czech. Even if USA made, they are in shops around here for hundreds, if not more. This purple piece fernwood ? ![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4656/24927084957_283fdc0213.jpg) fernwood, lol I just walked of the watermelon truck 3 weeks ago and started hiking thru thrift shops for tumble glass and have found 2 Kosta Boda 1 confetti Murano 1 perhaps this Czech piece worth 100's probably others SO, I must begin a concerted effort to have these pieces looked at by you knowledgeable people. I am shocked that collectors have not found these pieces and find it hard to believe they are so common.
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Post by Wooferhound on Jan 22, 2018 9:01:19 GMT -5
My dad was a watercolor artist and would frequently sell his work over the weekends at Art Exhibits. It was the late 60's, I was between 11 and 15 years old and I would end up trapped at these events for a coupla days but I had free-run of the place and lots of interesting things to look at. But what attracted me the most were 2 Glass Blowers in the area and one of them was always at these exhibits. They would make very detailed art pieces like a Ship, Log Cabin, Animals and other wonderful pieces. I would find out their demonstration schedule and be there everytime they made a new creation. It was hypnotizing to me, it's a wonder I never experimented with that. I can show somebody some wonderfully tumbled rocks for awhile and they will be mildly amazed. Then I will show some poorly tumbled glass and they are instantly interested in getting some of it. The same with pictures posted on my FaceBook page, I can show rocks and glass and people are asking me if they can buy some of the glass. The best stuff I have played with are TV picture tubes or the bottoms of Coke bottles and thick Bar glasses. People are fascinated by the old Green Tinted Coke bottle parts. Because of this I've been wanting to mess around with some more glass and these threads are pulling my attention. ![](http://www.rockshow.rocktumblinghobby.com/upload/2017/10/09/20171009105820-9adc2df2.jpg) So Jamesp . . . How much trouble are you having with Gas Buildup ? I get mixed results, sometimes gas, then maybe not . . . What about Chandolier Pendants ?
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Post by MsAli on Jan 22, 2018 9:05:53 GMT -5
Please for the love of God tell me it didn't look this this ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/07fd1dfa3d27ac2d544ef64882a4c4e9.jpg) Rut row, that's exactly the one. How much ? I am dead......seriously in mourning I knew it...... I can guarantee it's not collectors going in there, it's pickers. Sometimes they miss stuff. Especially Muranos. Ive gotten alot of them that way. I agree with fernwood on the other vase. I think it is Czech. I have seen that style. Just have to remember where.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 22, 2018 10:11:05 GMT -5
Rut row, that's exactly the one. How much ? I am dead......seriously in mourning I knew it...... I can guarantee it's not collectors going in there, it's pickers. Sometimes they miss stuff. Especially Muranos. Ive gotten alot of them that way. I agree with fernwood on the other vase. I think it is Czech. I have seen that style. Just have to remember where. I am getting sicker. I knew when I was destroying that vase it was a work of art. Thick clear glass coat over those color blobs. Looked like a spring pond. Found it in a real shit hole and never would have dreamed such a fine piece would be there. Lesson learned. Let me know if you need more photos of the red (Czech ?) piece. No doubt the pontil mark(me doing my homework) has been ground with a diamond ball grinder. And free blown.
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