jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 16:12:54 GMT -5
Why can't I find crap glass ? Everything I find is some kind of museum grade pieces. Remind me to never go rock hunting with you, don't need no museum pieces!! Damn Henry, doing my best to go white trash and instead I keep finding firiggin museum treasures. Can't a man be white trash if he wants to ? Now rock hunting a different matter,. museum grade few and far between. not easy to find
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 16:16:37 GMT -5
You aren't looking in trashy enough places. You're just not trashy enough! Put an ad in craigslist looking for chipped and broken colorful glass. Hey, I wonder if you could sneak into the recycling place... Google, contact the local historical societies and see if you can find any old glass factories and hunt for slag. My grandmother gave me some beautiful swirly blue slag chunks that she found. No, you can't have them! They darn near issue you a knife when you walk in these places lookatthat, Bankhead area has one of the highest murder rates in the country. Not a place for a Sunday stroll. Am looking for delightfully colored glass though, lots of modern made pieces out there. No problem smashing them. Hate to destroy vintage high art...
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Post by MsAli on Jan 23, 2018 16:17:13 GMT -5
The one you got yesterday reminds me of Kamei.
You said they had multiple ones of the same pattern?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 23, 2018 17:32:46 GMT -5
Why can't I find crap glass ? Everything I find is some kind of museum grade pieces. Sooo, are you saying the DS (David Salazar) piece was crap, a knock off? Or are you just saying that? Wanna share with us what you learned?
I can see how art glass can take over one's life, lol. Better get those shelves built, if you are going to keep running across nice (read - worth bucks!) pieces in the junk stores. If you can't break it up, you might as well keep it for a rainy day.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 23, 2018 17:39:48 GMT -5
Why can't I find crap glass ? Everything I find is some kind of museum grade pieces. Sooo, are you saying the DS (David Salazar) piece was crap, a knock off? Or are you just saying that? Wanna share with us what you learned?
I can see how art glass can take over one's life, lol. Better get those shelves built, if you are going to keep running across nice (read - worth bucks!) pieces in the junk stores. If you can't break it up, you might as well keep it for a rainy day.
Not even close to a David Salazar-he always signs/etched his on the bottom.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 23, 2018 17:54:23 GMT -5
Ah, well I guess that is a good thing. I wondered why you had said "Smash!"
I don't know a whole lot about art glass, but I do know there are a lot of copies and fakes out there. I have two of the black amethyst vases. Didn't know they were called that until I went looking for them online. Probably not worth much, but one was given to me by my Grandmother in Chicago in the 80s. About 5 1/4" tall, with a fluted? ruffled? lip. The second one probably a knock off, bought in Q inexpensively more than five years ago. The one from grandma a thicker blown glass, and darker purple.
Looks like this (not my photo, from pinterest)
The reflection of the guy taking the photo reminded me of the guy years ago selling a highly polished metal teapot kettle on I think eBay. He was taking the photo while nekkid, lol.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 23, 2018 18:08:33 GMT -5
Ah, well I guess that is a good thing. I wondered why you had said "Smash!"
I don't know a whole lot about art glass, but I do know there are a lot of copies and fakes out there. I have two of the black amethyst vases. Didn't know they were called that until I went looking for them online. Probably not worth much, but one was given to me by my Grandmother in Chicago in the 80s. About 5 1/4" tall, with a fluted? ruffled? lip. The second one probably a knock off, bought in Q inexpensively more than five years ago. The one from grandma a thicker blown glass, and darker purple.
Looks like this (not my photo, from pinterest)
The reflection of the guy taking the photo reminded me of the guy years ago selling a highly polished metal teapot on I think eBay. He was taking the photo while nekkid, lol. One of my favorite colors -but for some reason hard to find. Not sure of value on them-depends on who the maker is. fernwood is better at depression glass than I am.
I remember one time, I was taking pictures of a very shiny vinyl record to sell on Ebay....all I can say is make sure to proof your pictures before uploading
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Post by fernwood on Jan 23, 2018 18:48:11 GMT -5
Why can't I find crap glass ? Everything I find is some kind of museum grade pieces. Because you are an artist and have exquisite taste.
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Post by fernwood on Jan 23, 2018 18:51:35 GMT -5
Yes, the pieces in the photo you inquired about are all mine. The Butterfly Berry was a find by me, age 12, while antiquing with my Uncle. The end of Day was an Anniversary present to my Grandparents. Was always used when I as growing up to hold roses or peonies on the dining room table. The Grapevine Lattice was my G-G Aunt' glass for her night water on her bed stand.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 23, 2018 18:59:53 GMT -5
Yes, the pieces in the photo you inquired about are all mine. The Butterfly Berry was a find by me, age 12, while antiquing with my Uncle. The end of Day was an Anniversary present to my Grandparents. Was always used when I as growing up to hold roses or peonies on the dining room table. The Grapevine Lattice was my G-G Aunt' glass for her night water on her bed stand. Love that you have a story with each one-Great pieces! I have never been able to find a Butterfly Berry ; (
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Post by fernwood on Jan 23, 2018 19:00:17 GMT -5
rockpickerforever I have always loved Amethyst Glass. The crash on value of vintage glass really hurt the value of this beautiful glass. One can now find pieces like this for under $50.00. To me it isn't about the value, but about the story that comes with the piece. Plus, once something is gone, it is gone forever.
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Post by fernwood on Jan 23, 2018 19:05:02 GMT -5
jamesp To find colorful, junk glass, locate an old, abandoned farm with land. Find out who owns the property. Contact them and see if they will let you look for pieces of glass. Almost all old farms had one, if not several dumps on site. The older one on my property is loaded with not only glass, but some rusty Model A fenders, a rusty wood stove, metal cabinets and other goodies. If that is not an option, then go thrift saleing or visit local church sales. No given, that you will not find some valuable things, but at least there is a great chance of finding colorful glass that can be tumbled.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 20:51:03 GMT -5
jamesp To find colorful, junk glass, locate an old, abandoned farm with land. Find out who owns the property. Contact them and see if they will let you look for pieces of glass. Almost all old farms had one, if not several dumps on site. The older one on my property is loaded with not only glass, but some rusty Model A fenders, a rusty wood stove, metal cabinets and other goodies. If that is not an option, then go thrift saleing or visit local church sales. No given, that you will not find some valuable things, but at least there is a great chance of finding colorful glass that can be tumbled. I live a mile from the Chattahoochee River. This stretch of river was a booming community for 12 miles of river frontage. There was 4 horse drawn river crossings allowing the farm community to travel across. About 1870 they put a train bridge in and the whole community became depressed and within 20 years the farms abandoned for the most part. there is stone chimneys scattered thru the woods for miles with old trash dumps close by the chimneys. No shortage of old dumps on the 4000 acres behind me, and not hardly anyone goes on the property. so I can plunder it and have for 34 years. It looks like I will be buying fancier glass, it is my favorite. I think the import markets in China, Korea, Vietnamese sections of Atlanta will supply all the fancy vase glass I am so anxious to have. Much of their glass work rivals European made glass with out the famous labels and high demand. The Chinese were way ahead of the Europeans in ceramics. their china clay was way superior to Great Britain's pottery. They were into glass too, and have sophisticated glass processes. talented glass blowers, etc.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 21:23:35 GMT -5
Why can't I find crap glass ? Everything I find is some kind of museum grade pieces. Because you are an artist and have exquisite taste. Please, I am such a hick. I have been studying. Have you guys heard of Luxury Lane Horned vases ? Are horned vases a Luxury Lane design ? Or do other artists make them ? Only reason I ask is this insanely well made vase I found that seems to be similar to Luxury Lane colors and designs: Luxury Lane vase from images: Another LL from images
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Post by fernwood on Jan 23, 2018 21:26:53 GMT -5
I am not familiar with that line, sorry.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 21:48:58 GMT -5
Why can't I find crap glass ? Everything I find is some kind of museum grade pieces. Sooo, are you saying the DS (David Salazar) piece was crap, a knock off? Or are you just saying that? Wanna share with us what you learned?
I can see how art glass can take over one's life, lol. Better get those shelves built, if you are going to keep running across nice (read - worth bucks!) pieces in the junk stores. If you can't break it up, you might as well keep it for a rainy day.
I will certainly save the named labeled collector type glass Jean. Like you said, for a rainy day or sell it for cheap tumbling grade glass. Hope to shop china made art glass, hand blown with similar European techniques. I doubt China blown art glass of superb craftsmanship(it exists) is going to be a collector's item. Reading about Chinese imitations, some are well done and hard to differentiate.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 21:50:42 GMT -5
Sooo, are you saying the DS (David Salazar) piece was crap, a knock off? Or are you just saying that? Wanna share with us what you learned?
I can see how art glass can take over one's life, lol. Better get those shelves built, if you are going to keep running across nice (read - worth bucks!) pieces in the junk stores. If you can't break it up, you might as well keep it for a rainy day.
Not even close to a David Salazar-he always signs/etched his on the bottom.
Gonna get over to Bankhead area tomorrow and look at their stock. Will bring camera.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 23, 2018 21:56:10 GMT -5
jamesp I believe Luxury lane is a brand sold at department stores? It is very similar and could have been.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 23, 2018 22:38:17 GMT -5
jamesp I believe Luxury lane is a brand sold at department stores? It is very similar and could have been. I looked up LL and they sell shoes clothes etc. They must contract their glass pieces with an artist Alison. If you Google 'horned glass vase' they come up on images by far the most. They used a lot of yellow, and they are king of the horned design. guessing the yellow horned vase I found is probably LL. When you start tumbling this type of glass you can tell how the artist may completely cover the initial shape with a layer(of yellow glass in this case). Then lay layers of colored glass partially over the yellow but not completely covering the yellow layer. Then cover the whole mess with clear gl;ass. By doing that it gives various depths to the colors making true 3 dimensional appearance. But figuring out this layer scheme is darn near impossible until you look at the cross section or cut edge.
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Post by Garage Rocker on Jan 23, 2018 22:45:04 GMT -5
Are you a tumbler, or a glass collector, or both? Smash whatever the hell you want to smash, no approval necessary. If you paid next to nothing for it, then nothing (figuratively) lost. If the tumbles are amazing, then it's worth it. I like looking at the tumbles, personally. You aren't planning on reselling the "museum" quality finds anyway, are you? Use them for your new glass venture. They can't be that rare, if you are finding them in thrift stores and/or Hobby Lobby. You've tumbled some high dollar rocks too.
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