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Post by grumpybill on Mar 15, 2018 12:17:49 GMT -5
Reducing sodium in ones diet doesn't mean simply pushing the salt shaker away, although that's a good start.
As I mentioned earlier, on doctor's orders I'm limiting my sodium ("salt") consumption. To reach my daily goal of 1500mg, I'm finding I need to cut way back on baked goods. Who'd-a thunk it. For instance, a slice of the angel food cake my wife brought home yesterday has over 400mg. of sodium, which is over 25% of my daily goal. You might ask, "What? Cake isn't salty!" But...what do you think the "soda" in "baking soda" means? Several other leavenings are also high in sodium.
Ever look at the label on a loaf of bread? A single slice of white bread has twice as much sodium as a double handful of "lightly salted" potato chips...and that's before you spread anything on the bread!
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Post by MsAli on Mar 15, 2018 12:20:04 GMT -5
Reducing sodium in ones diet doesn't mean simply pushing the salt shaker away, although that's a good start. As I mentioned earlier, on doctor's orders I'm limiting my sodium ("salt") consumption. To reach my daily goal of 1500mg, I'm finding I need to cut way back on baked goods. Who'd-a thunk it. For instance, a slice of the angel food cake my wife brought home yesterday has over 400mg. of sodium, which is over 25% of my daily goal. You might ask, "What? Cake isn't salty!" But...what do you think the "soda" in "baking soda" means? Several other leavenings are also high in sodium. Ever look at the label on a loaf of bread? A single slice of white bread has as much sodium as a double handful of "lightly salted" potato chips...and that's before you spread anything on the bread! When I started cutting sugar out I really had to read labels. What an eye opener
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Post by grumpybill on Mar 15, 2018 12:25:51 GMT -5
Yep. I started reading labels years ago when I tried to add fiber, reduce sugar, avoid "bad fats", and limit sodium all at once.
Another eye opener is the serving size on labels. Who the hell eats just a single slice of bread and calls it a serving?
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Post by MsAli on Mar 15, 2018 12:27:03 GMT -5
Yep. I started reading labels years ago when I tried to add fiber, reduce sugar, avoid "bad fats", and limit sodium all at once. Another eye opener is the serving size on labels. Who the hell eats just a single slice of bread and calls it a serving? Right?
But its no wonder Americans are Over weight and seeing an increase in diseases in younger people
We eat horribly
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Post by NRG on Mar 15, 2018 12:42:45 GMT -5
Reducing sodium in ones diet doesn't mean simply pushing the salt shaker away, although that's a good start. As I mentioned earlier, on doctor's orders I'm limiting my sodium ("salt") consumption. To reach my daily goal of 1500mg, I'm finding I need to cut way back on baked goods. Who'd-a thunk it. For instance, a slice of the angel food cake my wife brought home yesterday has over 400mg. of sodium, which is over 25% of my daily goal. You might ask, "What? Cake isn't salty!" But...what do you think the "soda" in "baking soda" means? Several other leavenings are also high in sodium. Ever look at the label on a loaf of bread? A single slice of white bread has twice as much sodium as a double handful of "lightly salted" potato chips...and that's before you spread anything on the bread! ....... thoughtfully appreciates his own proper kidney function.......... Bill, that is difficult! 1.5 grams in roughly 2000 calories seems impossible. How did your Dr determine 1500mg is right for you? It seems roounded off. Is there a metabolic test for this? Im only curious. Not asking for personal information.
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Post by NRG on Mar 15, 2018 12:45:50 GMT -5
jeannie and I watched a Ted video by a diabetes Dr. she made a common sense metabolic case for avoiding all carbs. Only seasonal fruits provide carbs, in season. No grains, beans, sugars, potatoes..... Her Type 2 patients become non patients in a matter of 9-18 months.
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Post by MsAli on Mar 15, 2018 12:58:51 GMT -5
jeannie and I watched a Ted video by a diabetes Dr. she made a common sense metabolic case for avoiding all carbs. Only seasonal fruits provide carbs, in season. No grains, beans, sugars, potatoes..... Her Type 2 patients become non patients in a matter of 9-18 months. Diet and excercise has the power to change a lot of "diseases" However, most people prefer a magic pill
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Post by NRG on Mar 15, 2018 13:00:22 GMT -5
jeannie and I watched a Ted video by a diabetes Dr. she made a common sense metabolic case for avoiding all carbs. Only seasonal fruits provide carbs, in season. No grains, beans, sugars, potatoes..... Her Type 2 patients become non patients in a matter of 9-18 months. Diet and excercise has the power to change a lot of "diseases" However, most people prefer a magic pill
Hence the antibiotic resistance problem. Personally, I'll stay non patient. Turns out some fungi are good for this also. The only side effect is great flavor and anti cancer properties. Dang!
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Post by MsAli on Mar 15, 2018 13:08:53 GMT -5
Diet and excercise has the power to change a lot of "diseases" However, most people prefer a magic pill
Hence the antibiotic resistance problem. Personally, I'll stay non patient. Turns out some fungi are good for this also. The only side effect is great flavor and anti cancer properties. Dang! Exactly
Have you watched Resistance on Netflix?
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Post by grumpybill on Mar 15, 2018 13:09:35 GMT -5
that is difficult! 1.5 grams in roughly 2000 calories seems impossible. How did your Dr determine 1500mg is right for you? It seems roounded off. Is there a metabolic test for this? Im only curious. Not asking for personal information. The 1.5 gram goal IS impossible to meet...unless I eat nothing but raw fruits, grians and vegetables. That's why I call it a "goal"...it's what I aim for. My current nephrologist didn't set that goal, he just said to cut back because my blood pressure was rising and I was maxed out on the med. I chose that goal because that was what my previous specialist (now out of network) wanted when my kidneys shut down several years ago and I was carrying about 35lbs of "water weight".
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Post by grumpybill on Mar 15, 2018 13:11:57 GMT -5
jeannie and I watched a Ted video by a diabetes Dr. she made a common sense metabolic case for avoiding all carbs. Only seasonal fruits provide carbs, in season. No grains, beans, sugars, potatoes..... Her Type 2 patients become non patients in a matter of 9-18 months. Sounds like a version of the Keto diet.
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Post by NRG on Mar 15, 2018 15:22:19 GMT -5
jeannie and I watched a Ted video by a diabetes Dr. she made a common sense metabolic case for avoiding all carbs. Only seasonal fruits provide carbs, in season. No grains, beans, sugars, potatoes..... Her Type 2 patients become non patients in a matter of 9-18 months. Sounds like a version of the Keto diet. Keto, paleo, pritikin....... Schlameel, schlamazel... It appears grain and carbs are unnatural for humans. Certainly wheat was discovered long after humans evolved
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Post by grumpybill on Mar 15, 2018 15:52:21 GMT -5
Not sure I agree. I doubt primitive hominids were strictly carnivorous. They were hunter/gatherers and probably ate whatever they could find. Roots, fruits, seeds, etc. in addition to animal flesh.
I try to eat healthy, but avoid the fad diets. I mentioned the Keto diet because I recently read that it helps those with type 2. It's adherents avoid all carbs and get their calories from fats and protein. It obviously requires medical/nutritionist supervision.
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Post by MsAli on Mar 15, 2018 15:55:25 GMT -5
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Post by toiv0 on Mar 15, 2018 16:37:31 GMT -5
Sounds like a version of the Keto diet. Keto, paleo, pritikin....... Schlameel, schlamazel... It appears grain and carbs are unnatural for humans. Certainly wheat was discovered long after humans evolved I've been doing a keto lifestyle with intermittent fasting for almost 2 years. Eat one time a day. Lost 70 lbs the first 10 months and maintained my target since. Had a fatty liver when I started and after a few months went in for testing and everything is back where it should be. Just had blood work done last week and everything is great. A friend just got done with a 53 day fast and has been fasting 2 or 3 days a week. Humans were not meant to have food in front of them 24/7.
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Post by toiv0 on Mar 15, 2018 16:39:10 GMT -5
If you are going through a lot of liquids you almost can't get to much salt, including magnesium and potassium.
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Post by HankRocks on Mar 15, 2018 19:05:57 GMT -5
I am not a fan of any of the "fad" diets. My diet might be considered high-carbohydrates by most, oatmeal and a banana almost every breakfast, two slices of whole grain bread with fresh ground peanut butter for mid morning snack, lunch may be pasta with sauteed veggies or a veggie pizza. afternoon snack yogurt with granola and fruit, then supper of a meat a rice or potato or pasta and veggie and piece of fruit. My weight is the same as my junior year in High School. My Blood Pressure, Cholesterol, Blood Sugar are all excellent with no meds required. A beer or a glass of Red Wine or two maybe 3 days a week. Avoiding any fried food and obvious sugars. Lot's of Garlic, Olive Oil, Red Sauce, etc. We only lightly salt when cooking.
Suspect I am blessed with good body chemistry that keeps all the readings good and that I am a hyper-active person. Usually put in about 6 to 8 miles a day if I don't workout, more if I do. Hopefully there's not anything really bad sneaking up on me.
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Post by NRG on Mar 15, 2018 19:29:59 GMT -5
Keto, paleo, pritikin....... Schlameel, schlamazel... It appears grain and carbs are unnatural for humans. Certainly wheat was discovered long after humans evolved I've been doing a keto lifestyle with intermittent fasting for almost 2 years. Eat one time a day. Lost 70 lbs the first 10 months and maintained my target since. Had a fatty liver when I started and after a few months went in for testing and everything is back where it should be. Just had blood work done last week and everything is great. A friend just got done with a 53 day fast and has been fasting 2 or 3 days a week. Humans were not meant to have food in front of them 24/7. Ancestral humans likely had vegetables often even daily. Meats when the hunt was successful. I'd guess two solid belly fulls of protein a week on average. Often none and sometimes more. Cats in zoos are fed 6 days a week. Forced fast one day a week.
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Post by NRG on Mar 15, 2018 19:35:15 GMT -5
I am not a fan of any of the "fad" diets. My diet might be considered high-carbohydrates by most, oatmeal and a banana almost every breakfast, two slices of whole grain bread with fresh ground peanut butter for mid morning snack, lunch may be pasta with sauteed veggies or a veggie pizza. afternoon snack yogurt with granola and fruit, then supper of a meat a rice or potato or pasta and veggie and piece of fruit. My weight is the same as my junior year in High School. My Blood Pressure, Cholesterol, Blood Sugar are all excellent with no meds required. A beer or a glass of Red Wine or two maybe 3 days a week. Avoiding any fried food and obvious sugars. Lot's of Garlic, Olive Oil, Red Sauce, etc. We only lightly salt when cooking. Suspect I am blessed with good body chemistry that keeps all the readings good and that I am a hyper-active person. Usually put in about 6 to 8 miles a day if I don't workout, more if I do. Hopefully there's not anything really bad sneaking up on me. All the diets I mentioned aren't really "fad diets". The names make them so. But they all have in common that the food is trying to be similar to the ancestral diet, or at least a diet that can work forever for the people that need that. Yes, you nailed it. You are blessed. Most humans exhibit an allergy to wheat they fail to recognise. In men we call it beer belly.that ain't from carbs or lack of good eating habits. It's directly related to wheat consumption. Not all wheat eaters have it, but non wheat eaters never have it.
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Post by grumpybill on Mar 15, 2018 19:58:03 GMT -5
NRG , where do you stand on dairy?
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