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Post by toiv0 on Apr 5, 2018 16:06:49 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Apr 5, 2018 16:19:46 GMT -5
$10.00 ? Billy are you smoking?
At least $20.00 -$ 25.00 if not more
but, I'm not good at pricing
Those rings are beautiful
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 5, 2018 16:27:50 GMT -5
$10.00 ? Billy are you smoking? At least $20.00 -$ 25.00 if not more but, I'm not good at pricing Those rings are beautiful I was talking about the cabachon pendants in the last 2 pics with the copper bails. Going to do a bunch of jamesp glass if I can get them to shine back up. |
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 5, 2018 16:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by MsAli on Apr 5, 2018 16:30:50 GMT -5
$10.00 ? Billy are you smoking? At least $20.00 -$ 25.00 if not more but, I'm not good at pricing Those rings are beautiful I was talking about the cabachon pendants in the last 2 pics with the copper bails. Going to do a bunch of jamesp glass if I can get them to shine back up. I figured those were the ones you were talking about and even those are worth more than $10.00 Excited to see the glass 
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 5, 2018 16:35:43 GMT -5
I was talking about the cabachon pendants in the last 2 pics with the copper bails. Going to do a bunch of jamesp glass if I can get them to shine back up. I figured those were the ones you were talking about and even those are worth more than $10.00 Excited to see the glass
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Post by accidentalrockhound on Apr 5, 2018 16:38:01 GMT -5
Gosh darn you been busy. Excellent pieces all of them applause to you. I would say 20$ on the copper pieces depending on the stone? That's coming from a complete amature.
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 5, 2018 16:41:02 GMT -5
You're on a roll! I really like the turquoise and I think you could get 20 for the others, too.
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Post by MsAli on Apr 5, 2018 16:43:25 GMT -5
I figured those were the ones you were talking about and even those are worth more than $10.00 Excited to see the glass
SMOKIN 
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Apr 5, 2018 17:06:44 GMT -5
I have a rack full of glue on bail pendants that I have dragged to every show for the last 4 years. I can't get rid of them at $12 and that is with cords. Hope yours do better. I do not think a fifty cent bail glued to a $10 rock makes a twenty dollar pendant. Of course I am assuming that glue on bails really only get used on second rate cabs.
Chuck
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 5, 2018 19:23:06 GMT -5
I have a rack full of glue on bail pendants that I have dragged to every show for the last 4 years. I can't get rid of them at $12 and that is with cords. Hope yours do better. I do not think a fifty cent bail glued to a $10 rock makes a twenty dollar pendant. Of course I am assuming that glue on bails really only get used on second rate cabs. Chuck I don't price anything and let the consignment shop do the pricing. They wanted some lower price point items. As always will let the marketplace decide the price and if there is any call for something like this, if nothing else I just have the time to make the bails into them. |
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Apr 5, 2018 19:55:07 GMT -5
I have a rack full of glue on bail pendants that I have dragged to every show for the last 4 years. I can't get rid of them at $12 and that is with cords. Hope yours do better. I do not think a fifty cent bail glued to a $10 rock makes a twenty dollar pendant. Of course I am assuming that glue on bails really only get used on second rate cabs. Chuck I don't price anything and let the consignment shop do the pricing. They wanted some lower price point items. As always will let the marketplace decide the price and if there is any call for something like this, if nothing else I just have the time to make the bails into them. Cheaper price point was exactly why I gave them a try. I did those and tumbled rock key chains (tiger eye, amethyst, quartz, citrine etc ...) that I priced at $3. Those are my cheapest items and slowest movers. I think in a retail setting they might do well but at rock shows they have been a flop. A friend of mine from shows has them at his booth too and he reduced the price to $8 this year. Rock shows are a whole different venue though. Everyone seems to want something for nothing at shows. Chuck |
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Post by fernwood on Apr 6, 2018 5:40:13 GMT -5
What do they look like on the back? That would help determine accurate pricing. Is the bail glued on flat?
Considering it is tough to purchase the cabs alone for $10.00, I feel pricing them with a bail for that amount is low.
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Post by HankRocks on Apr 6, 2018 7:15:31 GMT -5
I would say that the glue-on's would be around $10, the others should be more, $15 to $20+ range, you have a bit of work in some of those.
I have been selling all tumbled preforms. Bought some of the glue-on bails, have not used any yet and prefer to drill and use the pinch bails. One advantage is that I can swap out the bail color at the buyer's request. Silver is in right now, but I have had folks who wanted gold instead of silver. I have not priced anything over $10 and some in the $6 to $7 dollar range. The better ones that my marketing manager(wife) really likes go on a display with cord for $10, the rest for $7 with some discount for more than one. I feel pretty comfortable selling in this price range and pendants usually make up between 20% and 25% of my sales.
Do have a friend who sent me some wire wrapped pendants to try selling for him. He let me set the price so I marked them between $10 and $15. Managed to sell 4 of them all over $12 at last craft show. He was pleased as he did not think he could sell any of them for more than $10.
My big advantage is that I don't have much money tied up in rocks. A good portion were picked up in West Texas, New Mexico and Arkansas on vacation. So I was paid a good salary to go collect rocks for a week or two and had fun doing it.
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Post by fernwood on Apr 6, 2018 8:06:50 GMT -5
When one considers their time involved to make a cab alone, the additional related equipment costs for maintenance, metals, etc., the price should be more than $10.00. If one wants to just share the joy of rocks, then $10.00 seems fair. But, that will not even cover the costs involved with finding/purchasing the specimen, making the cab, and transforming it into a pendant. If this is a venture to solicite future customers for more refined, custom pieces, then yes, start small. JMHO.
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Post by fernwood on Apr 6, 2018 8:08:06 GMT -5
Just curious. What are you selling the other pendants with bezel and backing for?
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Apr 6, 2018 8:35:53 GMT -5
When one considers their time involved to make a cab alone, the additional related equipment costs for maintenance, metals, etc., the price should be more than $10.00. If one wants to just share the joy of rocks, then $10.00 seems fair. But, that will not even cover the costs involved with finding/purchasing the specimen, making the cab, and transforming it into a pendant. If this is a venture to solicite future customers for more refined, custom pieces, then yes, start small. JMHO. - How much doe's it cost you to make a cab and how much labor per cab? For about an hours worth of labor I can preform and toss 20 cabs in the vibe tumbler to make inexpensive cabs for this purpose. These types of pendants are usually not intended for grade A material. For the most part these are just a way to use cabs that were not going to be worthy of a better setting or selling as cabs. toiv0 - I like your home made bails. I think that really classes them up a bit VS the prefab ones I used. I am still not a big fan of glue on items but if I do anymore I'll make my own bails for sure now. Do you do consignment on your items or sell stuff outright. They might have valuable input about about what they think they are worth. If they normally mark your items up 40% and they say they can sell them for $20 then that gives you your asking price to them. Chuck |
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 6, 2018 20:17:18 GMT -5
Just curious. What are you selling the other pendants with bezel and backing for? I usually get 50 to 300 for pendants. The small round brown laker I would get 50, 35 from a friend and consignment shop will ask 75 or so. The Turquoise pendant I would get 85, 50 from a friend and and about 125 at the shop. So its all over the board, a nice greenstone will bump the price quite abit. I never worry about price, I make what I want and it all works out. If it doesn't sell this week it will sell maybe 2 years from now or I might just give it away. I don't make any money but am not trying to. I pay for the rocks, silver and machinery and get to play with rocks. |
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 6, 2018 20:35:20 GMT -5
When one considers their time involved to make a cab alone, the additional related equipment costs for maintenance, metals, etc., the price should be more than $10.00. If one wants to just share the joy of rocks, then $10.00 seems fair. But, that will not even cover the costs involved with finding/purchasing the specimen, making the cab, and transforming it into a pendant. If this is a venture to solicite future customers for more refined, custom pieces, then yes, start small. JMHO. - How much doe's it cost you to make a cab and how much labor per cab? For about an hours worth of labor I can preform and toss 20 cabs in the vibe tumbler to make inexpensive cabs for this purpose. These types of pendants are usually not intended for grade A material. For the most part these are just a way to use cabs that were not going to be worthy of a better setting or selling as cabs. toiv0 - I like your home made bails. I think that really classes them up a bit VS the prefab ones I used. I am still not a big fan of glue on items but if I do anymore I'll make my own bails for sure now. Do you do consignment on your items or sell stuff outright. They might have valuable input about about what they think they are worth. If they normally mark your items up 40% and they say they can sell them for $20 then that gives you your asking price to them. Chuck Mostly consignment with the shop setting a price, they are more than fair. They just wanted some cheaper things to sell so the tourists with families can afford some thing. Never glued anything before not sure I like it. Just don't want to make a bunch and they don't sell. I basically have zero dollars into it. Only time. Wire is scrap from a job, cabachons are not so good looking, picked over from years of selling. I will just tell them to price what they think and if they don't sell then lower the price and if they don't sell then, give them away to the kids when they show an interest. |
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Post by knave on Feb 19, 2020 22:55:02 GMT -5
How did they sell?
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