Wooferhound
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Post by Wooferhound on Apr 23, 2018 12:05:35 GMT -5
Starting to get overloaded with polished rocks. I want to display the best looking rocks inside the house but 90% of them are shiny but not interesting. So I want to make some stepping stones to go in a muddy area between the tumblers and the cleanout sink. Looked at about 10 videos on YouTube but those people don't seem to know what they are doing and look to be making these things for the first time and videoing it. But i did get a few details that need to happen to get good results.
-- The cement needs to be kinda wet to help surround and stick to the stone. -- The stone should be planted at least halfway into the cement to be anchored good. -- The side of the stone that contacts the the cement should be roughed up some to help it stick. -- If laying transparent material the cement should be as white as possible to show the colors best. -- Include a wire mesh into the cement for added strength and durability. -- It's helpful to layout your stone pattern before you mix the cement. -- Use Muriatic Acid to clean the cement off of the stones after it has set.
So I'm looking for more pointers about making Stepping stones. Anybody made any ?
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Post by Bluesky78987 on Apr 23, 2018 19:50:05 GMT -5
You might want to consider doing it more mosaic style, where you glue the stones onto pre-bought or pre-formed cement. You'll use quickset morter to stick them down, and you can get the gout in whatever colors look good. There's a "special for transparent tile" white mortar that they sell at HD which is working very well for me (with glass, not rocks). Then you can grout it (regular sanded grout) in whatever color grout you want, and the white underneath will still show through, making your transparent rocks/glass/whatever look really good. Just an option if you don't want to mess with pouring cement.
I was actually thinking that stepping stones with polished rocks would be super cool, but I don't have any polished rocks, lol.
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 23, 2018 20:17:37 GMT -5
I would put down about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of fine sand at the base of the mold first. This will allow you to push the stones down in to the sand a little before adding the cement, which serves several purposes. First if the stones are not flat this will help hold the stones in place. Secondly, it will prevent the cement from going under the stones coveting them up when the step is popped out of the mold.
Also remember that if the cement is too wet it will be weaker. Only add enough water to make it slightly fluid.
You can also buy chopped plastic fibers, polyethylene (PET) if I think they were, or fiberglass to add to the cement for reinforcement. This will provide reinforcement throughout the cement. Any fibers sticking out can be easily burnt off with a propane torch.
And don't forget to tap of vibrate the mold to work air bubbles out immediately after pouring the cement mix.
You might also consider using tile mortar instead of cement. I find that the plasticizers and surfactants make it adhere to surfaces so much better than cement.
If you check places like Lowes and Home Depot they will often discount broken and torn bags quite a bit to get them sold. I stocked up on these bags to tile my floor saving me a ton of money.
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Post by MsAli on Apr 23, 2018 21:08:59 GMT -5
I just saw someone on facebook that did this. Came out pretty darn cool. I'll see if I can find the link
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kskid
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Post by kskid on Apr 23, 2018 22:13:35 GMT -5
I did something like this several years ago to make a border around some yard lights. I could run the mower deck over the top of the "stepping stone" border while going around the light fixture. No more grass growing up around the lights that had to be trimmed by hand...
I cut a five gallon bucket into about 2 inch tall rings to use as a form. I filled the ring about 3/4 with concrete, put in a layer of rocks about even with the top of the ring and covered the rocks with more concrete. When the concrete set up about hard enough that I couldn't press my thumb into it, I took a stiff brush and scrubbed away concrete to expose the tops of the rocks. When they were exposed to my liking I wiped the surface with a slightly damp sponge to clean off the rocks. I don't remember if I could lift the rings off or had to cut them off, but it worked. They were still solid when I moved out years later.
It didn't bother me, but if your rocks are soft or glass the sand in the concrete might leave some scratches.
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dredahippy
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Post by dredahippy on Nov 19, 2019 8:57:42 GMT -5
Just curious to how everything turned out..?
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Post by greig on Nov 19, 2019 14:34:24 GMT -5
I made something similar about 20 years ago. I bought rubber molds, glass and the the mix from a local craft supply. The mix was available in black or white - both are nice. The glass was random pieces of scrap glass left over from stain glass workshops. I sprayed the mold with a release agent and then assembled the glass into the bottom of the mold in the desired pattern. The mix was a powder (mixed with water and a hardening agent, into a thick slurry) and poured into the mold over the glass. It was allowed to set overnight and popped out of the mold the next day. About 2 weeks later and before putting the stepping stones outside into the elements, they were sealed with Thompsons. The thicker stones (ie. 2"+) lasted much longer than thinner ones. I set the stones onto (flat and tamped) crushed limestone and made sure they would not rock. I put down additional limestone between the stones. The only stones that have survived however were ones that I removed before winter and put into my shed.
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Post by RocksInNJ on Nov 19, 2019 23:55:03 GMT -5
I’ve often wondered about a project like this myself and would love to see some photos of the finished products if anyone has any to share. Many great tips here. Many thanks to you all.
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NRG
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Post by NRG on Nov 21, 2019 15:12:31 GMT -5
Muriatic will work.
But I would avoid that hastle and danger by getting one of those big sponges tile setters use. As the cement cures, clean the stones with wet sponge. Any Haze left after that will again wipe off with a wet sponge after all is cured.
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Post by HankRocks on Nov 21, 2019 15:33:56 GMT -5
One potential issue with polished rock stepping stones, if they are actual "Stepping Stones" they could present a slippery surface. In our wet muggy climate here in Houston I am not sure I would use them as they would be a slip hazards. I suppose it depends on how thick the stones are and how far they protrude.
Henry
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 18:01:43 GMT -5
But I would avoid that hastle and danger by getting one of those big sponges tile setters use. As the cement cures, clean the stones with wet sponge. Any Haze left after that will again wipe off with a wet sponge after all is cured. That's how I've done it. Seal it once you've gotten the haze off (sometimes a bit of scouring powder, scouring pad, or a tile setting sponge with a plastic scourer on one side will make that step easier). Never had problems with polished small stones being too slippery (and we have snow most winters), though I can see that being a hazard if the polished stones are larger.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 1, 2019 18:08:15 GMT -5
One potential issue with polished rock stepping stones, if they are actual "Stepping Stones" they could present a slippery surface. In our wet muggy climate here in Houston I am not sure I would use them as they would be a slip hazards. I suppose it depends on how thick the stones are and how far they protrude. Henry That's what I was thinking, too. They would be like walking on ice.
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whyofquartz
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Post by whyofquartz on Dec 12, 2019 13:56:53 GMT -5
see if you can find a video demonstrating how they do pebble washed sidewalks, for these they pour the concrete then sprinkle pea gravel over it and let it cure for a while then wash away the top layer of concrete that is still liquid. at least that is how it was described to be by a coworker who had done concrete work as a living
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