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Post by taylor on May 25, 2018 0:18:46 GMT -5
I have a local buyer for some fire agate rough, but am unsure of pricing. What is a fair price? Thank you for sharing your experience. Attachments:
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Don
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Post by Don on May 25, 2018 10:09:08 GMT -5
unproven rough from an unknown location? It's not worth very much. <$5/lb. I don't see any color in your first pic and there are only one or two pieces that I would even consider windowing in the second pic. Most looks like white chalcedony and brown sard. Take the rough outside with some water. stand with the sun overhead or behind you. Wet the rough and look very carefully for nodules of fire under the chalcedony. look at the edges of the stones for color layers sticking out. look at broken edges too. If there's fire, it will stand out from the reddish-brown and white chalcedony. If the rough has a purple-ish "frosting" on the surface, give those an extra good look as sometimes that can indicate color, but not always. High grade your rough and sell the pieces that show fire; leave the rest in the yard. Pieces that show promise will fetch up to $25/lb. The rough must be absolutely exceptional quality to sell at a higher price than that, IMO.
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Post by gemfeller on May 25, 2018 14:22:13 GMT -5
As someone who's cut a lot of fire agate I have to agree 100% with Don . Another indication of fire, at least in Deer Creek material, is an opal "bottom." Again not 100% but definitely worth checking out. Sometimes indications of fire are completely hidden beneath the white chalcedony "cap" which has to be carefully removed and evaluated. I see only a few pieces of your rough I'd bother checking.
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Post by taylor on May 26, 2018 0:05:33 GMT -5
Thank you Don and gemfeller, I appreciate the quick and detailed response. I was a little pressed for time and my not so great photography was particularly poor--my apologies. The pieces are from/for a local estate. I also have started pieces and finished pieces. Local is San Manuel Arizona on the west side of the Galiuro Mountains, but I do not know the exact locations where the material was collected. Please elaborate on 'opal bottom', this is not something that I understand. I do understand/recognize the white chalcedony.
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gemfeller
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Post by gemfeller on May 26, 2018 1:07:38 GMT -5
Some fire agate rough, when pried from the original deposit, has a layer of common opalite on the bottom (as opposed to the top which is often covered with a white chalcedony cap). I've seen this mainly in FA from Deer Creek, AZ though it could probably occur elsewhere. Sometimes those pieces yield very bright and valuable stones --but not always.
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Post by taylor on May 27, 2018 0:37:30 GMT -5
That is interesting, gemfeller. I have looked at these pieces a bit more and don't see anything other than chalcedony and uninteresting host stuff. Could you direct me to a picture of the opalite? Thank you.
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Post by gemfeller on May 27, 2018 10:32:01 GMT -5
That is interesting, gemfeller. I have looked at these pieces a bit more and don't see anything other than chalcedony and uninteresting host stuff. Could you direct me to a picture of the opalite? Thank you. I would if I could but I have no photos. I've noticed it in a few Deer Creek stones I've cut in the past -- it's fairly rare.
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Post by taylor on May 27, 2018 17:30:12 GMT -5
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