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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 22, 2018 13:56:58 GMT -5
Currently checking out false bindweeds and morning glories on the California Native Plant Society website. So many that look close, but just not quite right.
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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 22, 2018 14:05:40 GMT -5
You have quite the variety! I always enjoy your yard pics.
The fruit looks delicious even if it's not.
My grandson has been way into gardening this year- succulents mostly, but he grew some bell and jalapeno peepers, too.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Aug 22, 2018 22:17:13 GMT -5
Hope you figure out what that plant is, Jean. It's driving me crazy, so it must really be bugging you.
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Post by Pat on Aug 22, 2018 22:24:37 GMT -5
rockpickerforever a while back I posted the dog vomit that was in our back yard. I think it was you who could identity it. Haven’t seen it since. Re the white flower you want to identify, I can only say it looks like the plants in the cemetery in Virginia City in Nevada. I’ve always admired them. You have a lovely garden AND you know what it is you have.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 22, 2018 22:28:27 GMT -5
Hope you figure out what that plant is, Jean. It's driving me crazy, so it must really be bugging you. Ha ha, not so much. I emailed the two photos off this afternoon for help. Will wait and see what they can come up with. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 22, 2018 23:15:44 GMT -5
rockpickerforever a while back I posted the dog vomit that was in our back yard. I think it was you who could identity it. Haven’t seen it since. Re the white flower you want to identify, I can only say it looks like the plants in the cemetery in Virginia City in Nevada. I’ve always admired them. You have a lovely garden AND you know what it is you have. Thanks, Pat . I did remember about your dog vomit slime mold when I posted the photos. Yours was on bricks in your yard. I guess it is only around when conditions are right. Here's the thread you posted it in - Interesting alien arrives That wasn't too long ago, February 2016. While it has been slow here recently, I have been going back and revisiting old threads, like five, six years old. Been getting some good laughs out of them. We sure used to have a blast here. |
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Post by aDave on Aug 22, 2018 23:38:50 GMT -5
Hope you figure out what that plant is, Jean. It's driving me crazy, so it must really be bugging you. Ha ha, not so much. I emailed the two photos off this afternoon for help. Will wait and see what they can come up with. Well, I hope they hurry up and give you an answer. I've spent far too much time looking around the 'net to ID what you saw.  I think the flower looks more like a morning glory type flower, but the leaves are the issue. I got excited when I found a plant called the prickly poppy (Argemone corymbosa), but the center of the flower is too prominent when compared to what you photographed, and the leaf structure appears to be different. I think I've maxed out my Google sleuthing skills, so hurry up, will ya?  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 22, 2018 23:44:54 GMT -5
Working on it, aDave, lol. I've already received one suggestion, unfortunately, it wasn't even close. (Stamen protruding from throat of flower, wrong leaves, vining growth habit.) If I don't get a correct answer tomorrow, I'll submit the photos to another site. But, hey, I asked them, I'll give them time to respond. |
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Post by aDave on Aug 23, 2018 0:04:42 GMT -5
Obviously, you know I'm giving you a hard time, Jean rockpickerforever. It's been a great exercise in Google search terms. To a degree, I'm actually surprised that nothing has come up yet with what I've done. I've looked at probably hundreds of photos of "white flowers spiny leaves mojave desert" (or some variation thereof) over the last couple days, and nothing has popped up. Now I'm curious. |
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Post by pizzano on Aug 23, 2018 13:20:34 GMT -5
I've shown some photos of dragon fruit (Pitaya) before, but these photos I just took. It has a huge fragrant flower, which opens for only one night, closes the next morning. The bees are usually hitting the flowers pretty heavy early in the morning.
Fruit just about ripe. Dried brown stuff coming out of top is remains of flower. 
Picked the fruit today. 
Peeled and sliced. The almost fluorescent coloring reminds me of cooked beets. 
Cubed, ready to eat (for dessert tonight!)
A few other plants in the yard - These are the seed pods on a Euphorbia grandicornis. The more blue-green leaves to the left belong to an ocotillo (Fouquieria splendens) that came up from seed, dropped from another plant.
Epidendrum AKA reed-stemmed orchid 
Aloe capitata. The seller called it parachute or parasol aloe, something like that. Native to Madagascar. I picked this one up in Quartzsite a number of years ago. 
You don't see this everyday - "Dog vomit slime mold." Fuligo septica. Seriously, that's what it is called.
Growing on Dymondia ground cover underneath the avocado tree. It looks pretty disgusting, but by the time I first saw it, it was already dried out. 
Close-up. I suspect it was growing where it was because I had been watering the avo tree a bit, because of the hot weather. The slime mold likes dampness. 
Lastly, I need some help identifying this plant. This was found growing in the Mojave Desert, south east of 29 Palms. It was in an area of small sand dunes.
A low growing shrubby plant, maybe ten inches tall and a foot wide. Succulent leaves covered with hairs. The flower is about one inch across, the shape reminds me of a petunia. I could not find a photo in any of the books I have, or online.
Anybody have any ideas? Thanks in advance. Jean The succulent you're trying ID stumped me for awhile........since the flower looks so much like the common Jimson Weed (Datura) we find out here.......but the plant does not qualify.
So I did a little research of the native San Diego County and costal desert plant life and narrowed it down to flowering hairy desert succulents........What I found was the Parish's Monkey Flower (Mimulus Parishii Phrymaceae)......there are many hybrid's of this type of cactus that can only be found in California. Although your variety does not have separate petals, any apparent stamens or pistils (reproductive goodies within the structure), It does qualify as a Gamopetlous (tubed shape) flower..........If you care to research more, I'd suggest you follow the Phrymaceae trail related to succulents.
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I found no "shrub" that qualified as a "succulent" that flowered like a Petunia with (hairy) or otherwise tiny spiny foliage........
Hope this helps...
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 23, 2018 13:39:30 GMT -5
Thanks, Joe. The white flowered plant I am trying to ID was found in the Mojave desert, south east of 29 Palms. We were in the area on a prospecting trip (for a whole week!) in October of last year. The flowers are only about 1" across, much too small for Datura. Along with the two photos I emailed seeking ID, I also sent this info to CA native plant society:
FYI - the Phrymaceae trail you suggested led nowhere. While what I have does have a tube shaped flower, it does not have separate petals, like the monkey flowers. Not criticizing, I am open to any and all suggestions. RTHlings have been quick to step in and offer help. Keep it coming, and we will nail this!
I may get one of the snap apps, and enlist the help of the people behind those apps as well.
ETA - It does have me and a few others here scratching our heads, lol.
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Post by pizzano on Aug 23, 2018 13:51:23 GMT -5
Thanks, Joe. The white flowered plant I am trying to ID was found in the Mojave desert, south east of 29 Palms. We were in the area on a prospecting trip (for a whole week!) in October of last year. The flowers are only about 1" across, much too small for Datura. Along with the two photos I emailed seeking ID, I also sent this info to CA native plant society:
FYI - the Phrymaceae trial you suggested led nowhere. While what I have does have a tube shaped flower, it does not have separate petals, like the monkey flowers. Not criticizing, I am open to any and all suggestions. RTHlings have been quick to step in and offer help. Keep it coming, and we will nail this!
I may get one of the snap apps, and enlist the help of the people behind those apps as well.
ETA - It does have me and a few others here scratching our heads, lol.
Your welcome Jean.......I looked at related Bindweeds (due to it's flowering) as well......but since you mentioned "succulent" I did not pursue that.........woody stemmed works but the leave structure and fuzzy's do not fit.......good hunting to ya........even if it turns out to be just another desert "weed", I like it. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 23, 2018 14:00:32 GMT -5
I had no idea ID of this plant would be so elusive. Wished I had taken better photos than just the two I did take. I may have gotten a few seeds from a dried flower, will have to find what I did with them (a task in itself, since I am sure I put them "somewhere safe") and plant then after it rains. Although I'm sure I could find the exact location where the plants (there were several) were found, I don't really want to drive back to 29 Palms just to take some more pics, lol.
Or maybe we'll be up there in a few months to do some more prospecting. Won't be for a week this time, though.
Again, Joe, thanks for your (and everybody else's!) help. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 24, 2018 13:42:52 GMT -5
I know you guys are all waiting with bated breath for info on the flower/plant ID. I had emailed the photos to someone in the CA native plant society. He had at first sent me a link, asked me if it could be Oenothera deltoids, the dune primrose? I told him no, the flower petals were not separated like that. So he kept looking.
This morning, I received another email from him. After searching through their entire database, and the Calflora database, he was drawing a blank. He said he couldn’t find anything that appears to match my photos. He will next look through an old Flora of California manual he has at home.
I thanked him for looking, and told him I may have to go back up to the area where the plant was found, and get some better photos of the plant, including a scale, so that it could possibly be keyed out. (Impossible with current photos, that are sadly lacking.  )
Then he emailed back again saying, "There are a few hundred mostly rare native California plants for which we don’t have photos. Perhaps you stumbled upon one of them!" Wouldn't that be nice, to be able to add to their database?
I was going to go ahead and get a plant ID app (snap app), but if there are no photos of the plant, that wouldn't be much use.
I also joined the forum on Dave's Garden last night, they have a section for their members (from around the globe) to help with plant ID. Could maybe at least narrow it down to family. I'm sure the members there are very knowledgeable in garden-type plants, but, chances are, the wild flora in the Mojave Desert, maybe not so much.
If it is, indeed, a rare plant, the photo of which is not in a database somewhere yet, more photos would be the best bet. Maybe another prospecting expedition and photo shoot is in order within the next few months?
Haven't posted to that plant forum yet, but will let you know if anyone can help!
Jean
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Post by rockjunquie on Aug 24, 2018 13:48:48 GMT -5
I know you guys are all waiting with bated breath for info on the flower/plant ID. I had emailed the photos to someone in the CA native plant society. He had at first sent me a link, asked me if it could be Oenothera deltoids, the dune primrose? I told him no, the flower petals were not separated like that. So he kept looking.
This morning, I received another email from him. After searching through their entire database, and the Calflora database, he was drawing a blank. He said he couldn’t find anything that appears to match my photos. He will next look through an old Flora of California manual he has at home.
I thanked him for looking, and told him I may have to go back up to the area where the plant was found, and get some better photos of the plant, including a scale, so that it could possibly be keyed out. (Impossible with current photos, that are sadly lacking. )
Then he emailed back again saying, "There are a few hundred mostly rare native California plants for which we don’t have photos. Perhaps you stumbled upon one of them!" Wouldn't that be nice, to be able to add to their database?
I was going to go ahead and get a plant ID app (snap app), but if there are no photos of the plant, that wouldn't be much use.
I also joined the forum on Dave's Garden last night, they have a section for their members (from around the globe) to help with plant ID. Could maybe at least narrow it down to family. I'm sure the members there are very knowledgeable in garden-type plants, but, chances are, the wild flora in the Mojave Desert, maybe not so much.
If it is, indeed, a rare plant, the photo of which is not in a database somewhere yet, more photos would be the best bet. Maybe another prospecting expedition and photo shoot is in order within the next few months?
Haven't posted to that plant forum yet, but will let you know if anyone can help!
Jean
That would be really cool to add some pictures to one of the elusive ones. Maybe you even found something new. Jeanafloria |
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Post by aDave on Aug 24, 2018 18:37:29 GMT -5
That would be really cool to add some pictures to one of the elusive ones. Maybe you even found something new. Jeanafloria True. It would be neat to be able to name it, if possible. I think at this point, the appropriate name might be the "I can't figure out what the heck this white Mojave Desert flower is" flower. |
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Post by Garage Rocker on Aug 26, 2018 2:26:52 GMT -5
Looks like you've got a real mystery on your hands, Jean. Always like your yard pics, even the dog vomit! I've found actual dog vomit more frequently than the mold variety.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Aug 26, 2018 11:33:23 GMT -5
I hope you discover what the plant is eventually, Jean! Time to start making a list of names you might like in case it is one of those "elusive and rare" ones.
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Post by beefjello on Aug 27, 2018 20:31:06 GMT -5
You got the coolest plants Jean!
Any stinky stapelia flowers opening yet?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Aug 27, 2018 20:58:38 GMT -5
You got the coolest plants Jean! Any stinky stapelia flowers opening yet? Thanks, Brian. Funny that you should ask about the stapelia, Brian. I have one plant out in the front yard that has a couple flowers in the process of opening. Maybe in another day or two. |
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