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Post by cookie3rocks on Jul 17, 2004 21:12:07 GMT -5
Hi all, I just won a "Dremel Type" hand held drill on Ebay. I'm hoping to use it to shape stones after theyve been busted up. It has 2 speeds and I'm hoping to get a drill press assembley for it eventually to cut holes in stones. It will come with some bits but I need advise on what works best for what, and what extras I will need to puchase. Thanks for youre help ;D cookie
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shorty
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Post by shorty on Jul 17, 2004 21:37:26 GMT -5
SOME SAFETY GOOGLES I USED A DREMMEL AND STUFE FLEW ALL OVER ME BUT I SHOULD HAVE NOWN BETTER SHORTY
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jul 17, 2004 22:14:04 GMT -5
OK, accessory 1 well noted ;D
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Post by docone31 on Jul 17, 2004 22:32:01 GMT -5
Cookie, get a foot pedal speed control. You can get one at a sewing shop, or Rio has some great ones. Also, get a flexible shaft attachment, and a chuck end. Dremel makes that one and it is very useful and fits most flex shafts. Set the speed control to high and use the foot pedal.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jul 17, 2004 23:02:53 GMT -5
Doc, Thats the kind of things they use for doing artifictial nails. That would be perfect! Thanks
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Post by docone31 on Jul 17, 2004 23:10:31 GMT -5
Before I was doing jewelery, I knew a lot of drag queens. I knew nothing of jewelery tools and that was the first time I ever saw such a set up, and how it could be used. I have to admit, I was a little taken aback watching a GUY put on seamed stockings and make up. I shudder to this day. Hey, I am no judge. I was just a little shocked. That was something you didn't see every day. I later made jewelery for drag queens, dancers, and stage personel. I guess I involuntarily was forced to make room for different perspectives which later gave me an edge in what I now do. If only LA., people like to look like they care about themselves.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jul 17, 2004 23:56:11 GMT -5
Darlin, I was a stylist for 15 years, I did my share of drag shows. If you can make an unatractive man into a glamourous women, that's art How did you use the dremel, for nails? I did nails for a while, but sitting in that position messed up the vertebrae in my neck, had to keep going to the chiropractor. The flexable foot pedal modle came out after I quit. Is that what you used? cookie
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Post by docone31 on Jul 18, 2004 2:44:48 GMT -5
Cookie, this is the embarassing confession. I did not know they were drag queens. As a matter of fact, back when I saw the dremel being used, I did not know what a dremel was let alone a drag queen. The majority age turned 18 in the state I was living and going to college in. I started going to college at 17. You will have to envision, a young seminary student, more green than anything else, going to his first bar. I met this "beautiful young lady", got to slurring my speach and having a ball. We met at the bar many more times. Being a seminary student I did not proclaim from most high I was getting hammered, let alone with this blonde bomb. We kissed a few times, some very light touchy, nothing serious. It was my first love outside of a small town with 350 people and lots of acreage. I was in love and seeing the future. Well "she" took me to an event "she" called the queens ball. I was all excited, full of hormones, life was a blur! Ah, the first love of youth. I suddenly and abrutly found out what a drag queen was! I did not get arrested following my reaction, especially to my love of life. I thought big city people were out of their minds! I couldn't sleep at night, I was afraid of women for a while. My next actual date, she told me her name reached out her hand. I grabbed her crotch and she slapped me! At least she wasn't a guy in a dress. A long time has passed and I have worked some phobias out. Some of my better friends are drag queens and they respect me for being a boring straight guy. Sometimes I have been used in their skits as a doinky straight guy as I turn a very natural purple and audibly stutter and react like a doinky straight guy. Needless to say, that was the first time I had ever seen a Dremel and a flexshaft. It was a very long time before I ever got one. I do not do nails.
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llanago
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Post by llanago on Jul 18, 2004 10:23:27 GMT -5
Drag queens! LOL! Aren't they a hoot! My first experience came when hubby and I went on our honeymoon in New Orleans. (I was 21, from a small rural Texas town and had been pretty sheltered.) We went into this strip bar - first one I had ever been in. I just couldn't believe that all those beautiful girls were stripping for a living rather than modeling . I mean, why be a stripper when one is beautiful enough to be a model? Hubby and the couple we were with just snickered and laughed. I didn't find out until we left that they were men!
After hubby became an ex, I dated a guy that was a bank president and the bank sent him to NO for a seminar or something. When he got home he told me of his adventure with a drag queen. He and his buddies had gone into a bar and this beautiful woman had started hitting on him. They drank quite a bit and she invited him back to her place. He went, they had a few more drinks, did some serious making out and he discovered she was a he! Quite a shock for poor ole Cody! We lived in a relatively small town, he made the mistake of telling his buddies about it and it didn't take long for the whole town to hear about it. People would go into the bank, stick their heads into his office and ask about his N.O. girlfriend. Needless to say, he was most embarrassed. The bank transferred him elsewhere a few months later. He wasn't sure if it was because of that incident, but I always thought it was. It caused quite a scandal and you know how banks are!
When I lived in NO, the group of folks I ran with & I frequented a bar that the drag queens also frequented. We always ended up drinking and partying with them. I guess I probably laughed more and had more fun with those drag queens than just about any group of people I have ever known. They had so many tales to tell and were so funny. After I got to know them, I asked how they hid the family jewels when they dressed in those skimpy costumes. Their explanation, along with a demonstration, had us all rolling in the floor with tears streaming down our faces.
llana
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Post by docone31 on Jul 18, 2004 16:25:14 GMT -5
If you read my last post in Hey Doc., you will see how those folks I had the most difficult time understanding, came through when everybody else was throwing stones. I really miss those folks. They were a ball. I do not see them as different and I can hyperbolically act the stereotypical homophobic. They love it and I can do the schtyk. I never had more fun when I went out with the ? They all taught me more about jewelery design than I can process. The biggest thing is, they accept me as me. I always try to act shocked and they ham it up. I have never laughed so hard with people in my life. They are so liberal out here, no one laughs anymore. Everything is so NICE it makes me bored and sick to my stomache.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jul 18, 2004 19:59:57 GMT -5
I've done it again, started in one direction and ended up in another, more interesting direction. How we digress. So, anyway Seriously, How do I use this thing? Do I need a vice to hold the stones as I shape them? What kinds of bits do I use? Help! Drag queens, feel free to snap right in ;D cookie
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Post by docone31 on Jul 18, 2004 20:31:13 GMT -5
Pitch bowl for the stones, diamond bits for grinding at high speed. The pitch will hold the stone in spite of wetting, the flex shaft will allow greater control. Experience, not drag queen teaching.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Jul 18, 2004 21:02:31 GMT -5
Great, thank you. What's a pitch bowl ;D cookie
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Post by docone31 on Jul 19, 2004 0:21:36 GMT -5
A pitch bowl is a bowl full of pitch. Hope that helps. Doc
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Post by krazydiamond on Jul 19, 2004 13:49:41 GMT -5
where would you go to buy pitch? a roofing supply place? or is this material gone the way of Ivory Soap Flakes and is not readily available to the common rockhound?
i did manage to find Borax finally and it sure makes a world of difference. (one wonders how they get all those mules in one box...)
KD
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Post by docone31 on Jul 19, 2004 19:30:36 GMT -5
PItch, for jewelery and stones is commonly available in jewelery supply shops, and also Rio, Indian Jewelers, etc. I reccomend getting also, the flexible bowl for the pitch. I use a pitch stick for setting small stones in channel settings, small prongs, and bead setting. They got those mules in there by telling them in quiet, if they only hauled one more wagon of borax, they could have their own dirt spot under a split rail fence, apples all day long, and they can bite James Arness as much as they want. They were also told Flika was waiting in the box and was ready.
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RiverOtter
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Post by RiverOtter on Jul 20, 2004 0:27:06 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHA!! Yep it was that Flika thing that did it!
Otter
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