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Post by fernwood on Oct 29, 2018 14:42:41 GMT -5
Just wish I would have grabbed a photo and contact info before the Ebay post disappeared.
Last week someone was offering a 400 lb Pudding Stone for $1000.00 or BO. The markings were amazing. Very little space between the colors. I saw it on my Facebook feed as a side adv.
After seeing the info on where someone got in trouble for one much smaller, I should have known better and grabbed the photo.
Did anyone else see this?
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Post by MsAli on Oct 29, 2018 14:49:27 GMT -5
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Post by fernwood on Oct 29, 2018 15:12:50 GMT -5
Yup, that one. They probably changed the listing to not say Pudding Stone. The adv. remains the same as I saw it.
Considering what happened to a previous person who tried to sell a much smaller one, I wonder how long this adv. will be there.
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Post by Mark K on Oct 29, 2018 19:37:50 GMT -5
what happened?
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Post by fishnpinball on Oct 29, 2018 20:04:48 GMT -5
I thought the one there was an issue with was a petoskey stone.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Oct 29, 2018 20:34:22 GMT -5
That one spent 29 days on ebay at $1,000. I see they dropped it to a more reasonable $500 start and got a bid. Pudding stones that size are really common up by my cabin. Pretty much everyone has one, two or several that size used for landscaping. No issue at all selling them that size. They are scattered all over in the woods and the island has 34,000 acres of private land so plenty are found on private property and can be sold no matter the size.
For $500 that one is a pretty good deal.
Chuck
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Post by Jugglerguy on Oct 29, 2018 20:44:19 GMT -5
I found one much bigger and better than that one. I can tell you where it is, but good luck getting it home. It’s not just a few feet from my paved driveway.   I know someone who lives on the beach I hunt who has his house completely surrounded by pudding stones, many the size of the one in the eBay listing. Chuck has seen them. Pudding stones are not all that rare in northern Michigan. |
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Post by aDave on Oct 29, 2018 20:51:40 GMT -5
I thought the one there was an issue with was a petoskey stone. You're right about that. A 93 lb stone was picked up and was reclaimed by the State. I've searched all over the place and a puddingstone has not been in the news. |
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Post by quartz on Oct 29, 2018 23:39:55 GMT -5
I stopped at a garage sale a while back. When I pulled up I noticed a fair sized pudding stone in the front yard, asked the owner about it. He said the rock was in the yard when they bought the place, they liked it. He also mentioned the previous owner, who was going into care home, mentioned bringing it from Michigan. At ~60 lbs., probably the biggest one in Oregon.
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Post by fernwood on Oct 30, 2018 7:20:09 GMT -5
Right the Petoskey Stone was the one taken. I thought there was a harvesting law for Pudding Stone as well, but learned it applies to State lands. Private land harvesting is fine.
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Post by rads on Nov 4, 2018 10:02:29 GMT -5
Michigan has a 25 lbs per day - per person collecting law on public lands. 250 lbs per year total. The idiot who had the Petoskey stone (93 lbs I think) took it from a beach near Northport and posted it on F.B. It didn't take long to get the attention of the authorities who promptly took it from him. www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/09/24/man-finds-pound-petoskey-stone-lake-michigan/72740746/Every person I know who is involved in the hobby has at least 1 Petoskey over the 25 lbs rule, however they come from gravel pits on private property. They are not beach tumbled and look nothing like a Petoskey would in the water. Pudding stones are so common, I doubt they would enforce the law on them....but, I would not like to be the "test" case with them. Petoskey's being the state stone makes them more likely to be prosecuted IMHO. |
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Nov 4, 2018 11:34:53 GMT -5
Michigan has a 25 lbs per day - per person collecting law on public lands. 250 lbs per year total. The idiot who had the Petoskey stone (93 lbs I think) took it from a beach near Northport and posted it on F.B. It didn't take long to get the attention of the authorities who promptly took it from him. www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/09/24/man-finds-pound-petoskey-stone-lake-michigan/72740746/Every person I know who is involved in the hobby has at least 1 Petoskey over the 25 lbs rule, however they come from gravel pits on private property. They are not beach tumbled and look nothing like a Petoskey would in the water. Pudding stones are so common, I doubt they would enforce the law on them....but, I would not like to be the "test" case with them. Petoskey's being the state stone makes them more likely to be prosecuted IMHO. Everything I have seen on the DNR site has said 25 pounds per person per year not per day.  Chuck |
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Post by rads on Nov 5, 2018 10:57:13 GMT -5
Thank you for the update, I will look further into it. Luckily, we have always followed the 25 lbs per person rule while we were out in the field.
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Post by rads on Nov 5, 2018 11:06:55 GMT -5
Gaylord-based First Lieutenant Vince Woods leads DNR and DEQ environmental investigations across the state. He was involved in the September Petoskey stone case. Collecting more than 25 pounds of the fossils places the find under commercial use, according to Woods.
“To avoid violating the rule, have an estimate of how much you want to collect and get a mining permit from the State Mineral Management office,” Woods said.
Seems that I am incorrect, one must apply for a permit to collect more than the 25 lbs per year, anything over is considered commercial use. Learned something new today......thank you. Just left a message at the SMM Office for a permit application.
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Post by fernwood on Nov 5, 2018 11:13:57 GMT -5
Thank you everyone on this. I want/need some Petoskey. Have seem many online stores selling it by the pound. Quality is unimportant to me, as I have taken off the surface from some inferior quality pieces to make beautiful cabochons from. One never knows what is under the surface of some of these.
Next summer I will be going to collect my own. Just need to know requirements for collecting, as I will have a good friend along.
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