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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 30, 2019 21:11:25 GMT -5
I just created another YouTube video. I'm on my fourth snow day in a row and I need something to keep me busy. I have an older video showing me cutting Michigan shapes from Petoskey stone, but it got a lot of thumbs down votes. After looking at it again, I can see why. It was really hard to actually see what was happening. So I redid it. And redid it, and redid it. I had some trouble getting the camera in the right position and focused properly. I made two recordings that were out of focus for two different reasons, and then one with a glare on the rock. I also broke about four rocks that had unseen cracks in them.
I'm thinking about getting more serious about making YouTube videos, so if you like what you see, I'd appreciate if you subscribed to my channel. I know my video isn't perfect, for example the first clip is pretty dark, so I don't mind some helpful criticism.
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Post by toiv0 on Jan 30, 2019 22:32:23 GMT -5
Outstanding
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Post by MsAli on Jan 30, 2019 22:43:31 GMT -5
For the most part I liked it and now I know how yall make the shapes!
I felt it could be broken up into 2 parts. The cutting the stone 1 video and the types of saws in another.
Also I couldnt see the shapes you showed in that well
A couple of other suggestions and they are really minor ones, but IMO make good videos.
Speak slower. We midwesterns tend to talk really fast and watch the Um's when speaking.
(And I just totally went into teacher mode grading a student on a presentation)
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 30, 2019 23:25:08 GMT -5
For the most part I liked it and now I know how yall make the shapes! I felt it could be broken up into 2 parts. The cutting the stone 1 video and the types of saws in another. Also I couldnt see the shapes you showed in that well A couple of other suggestions and they are really minor ones, but IMO make good videos. Speak slower. We midwesterns tend to talk really fast and watch the Um's when speaking. (And I just totally went into teacher mode grading a student on a presentation) Thanks Ali. That’s the kind of feedback I need. The “ums” are a tough one. I’m not at all comfortable talking to a camera alone in my basement either. |
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Post by quartz on Jan 30, 2019 23:56:41 GMT -5
Well done overall, as Ali said the first part showing the shapes is a little dark, and you might try to get some soft surfaces in the room to cut the echo. The setting of your camera and lighting over the saw is top notch.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 31, 2019 0:06:58 GMT -5
For the most part I liked it and now I know how yall make the shapes! I felt it could be broken up into 2 parts. The cutting the stone 1 video and the types of saws in another. Also I couldnt see the shapes you showed in that well A couple of other suggestions and they are really minor ones, but IMO make good videos. Speak slower. We midwesterns tend to talk really fast and watch the Um's when speaking. (And I just totally went into teacher mode grading a student on a presentation) Thanks Ali. That’s the kind of feedback I need. The “ums” are a tough one. I’m not at all comfortable talking to a camera alone in my basement either. Talking slower will help with the ums. I cant remember if we do it because we speak faster than our brain can transmit or vice versa, but pausing and taking a breath helps. |
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Post by parfive on Jan 31, 2019 1:32:41 GMT -5
Just watched the first minute, Rob . . .
You’re aware that “the first clip is pretty dark.”
There are three lights at the bench and you bring your work forward into the dark.
Keep the work in the light and move the camera, if need be.
Don’t start with “I don’t know what these are . . . “
Stay positive and lead with what you do know.
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Post by fernwood on Jan 31, 2019 4:03:47 GMT -5
Have nothing to add, but that it is a great video of your work.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 31, 2019 8:52:39 GMT -5
I thought it was really great, Rob! As others have mentioned, the beginning is dark, but you already know that. I wasn't bothered by your pace or the ums. I'm from the South, though, and we speak fast. I thought your pace was a little slow compared to us. So, overall, I think your pace was a nice compromise. You might speak to the speed of the blade. It looks slower than my saws. Dunno. I love your camera and light set up. The actual cutting part was done really well and I'm glad you didn't use a fast speed to get through it the way a lot of people do. It was good to point out about the 90 degree angle on the saw- very helpful! You might want to speak more about the material and what kinds of pretty solid materials would work best.
For future videos, you might want to do some heart shapes. I know they would be VERY popular and bring more viewers to your channel.
Overall, I think you did a professional job, especially for your first. And, yes, it is super awkward to talk to a camera when you are alone. Your voice was very confident, I think.
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Post by Pat on Jan 31, 2019 10:57:21 GMT -5
This is a welcome video. Thanks for doing it and for showing the complete cutting job.
A few suggestions:
-Speak slowly (open your mouth a little more) and clearly so you don't sound like you are mumbling. Don't speak unless you have something to say. That will help avoid the ums and aaah which are just taking up sound space. Face the microphone when speaking.
-at 10 you show the cabs on cards. They all look dark and shapes iffy because of the dark and your hand is in the way. The cards were on a white counter by a white wall where they could be seen much better. Viewer cannot see what you are seeing. Might want to label the rocks you point out. Use a thick Sharpie.
-at 1:50 good! Well-light and close up.
when you are explaining the papers you use for the shape, you suggest holding it up to the light --- but then you didn't.
-at 4:08 you explained the two saws and the fix. Good!
-at 5:43 you mentioned the safety equipment. Briefly show us.
-at 8:29 you explained the lack of danger when your fingers get so close to the blade. Good job. You also showed using the side of the blade. Good idea!
I would also like to know why you started with the antlers instead of the easier body. You explained cutting out the cross extensions first, and then the corners. Makes sense.
-At the end, you show the other three deer efforts, but it was hard to see. Suggest you place them down on your flat white counter top in a row so viewer can see and compare. There you can explain why there is a problem with each of them and how you solved the problem.
Very good job on your first effort. Thanks!
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Post by greig on Jan 31, 2019 11:03:21 GMT -5
I have subscribed. If you are worried about the "ums", most can easily be removed during editing. This was a better first video than most. Keep posting. ;-)
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 31, 2019 12:22:26 GMT -5
This is a welcome video. Thanks for doing it and for showing the complete cutting job. A few suggestions: -Speak slowly (open your mouth a little more) and clearly so you don't sound like you are mumbling. Don't speak unless you have something to say. That will help avoid the ums and aaah which are just taking up sound space. Face the microphone when speaking. -at 10 you show the cabs on cards. They all look dark and shapes iffy because of the dark and your hand is in the way. The cards were on a white counter by a white wall where they could be seen much better. Viewer cannot see what you are seeing. Might want to label the rocks you point out. Use a thick Sharpie. -at 1:50 good! Well-light and close up. when you are explaining the papers you use for the shape, you suggest holding it up to the light --- but then you didn't. -at 4:08 you explained the two saws and the fix. Good! -at 5:43 you mentioned the safety equipment. Briefly show us. -at 8:29 you explained the lack of danger when your fingers get so close to the blade. Good job. You also showed using the side of the blade. Good idea! I would also like to know why you started with the antlers instead of the easier body. You explained cutting out the cross extensions first, and then the corners. Makes sense. -At the end, you show the other three deer efforts, but it was hard to see. Suggest you place them down on your flat white counter top in a row so viewer can see and compare. There you can explain why there is a problem with each of them and how you solved the problem. Very good job on your first effort. Thanks! Thanks Pat, those are some good things to think about. I appreciate you taking the time to write them out. To answer your question about why I started with the antlers, it’s because they’re the most likely to break, so I do them first. That way if they break, I haven’t wasted time doing the other parts. |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 31, 2019 12:25:05 GMT -5
I have subscribed. If you are worried about the "ums", most can easily be removed during editing. This was a better first video than most. Keep posting. ;-) Thanks Grieg. Is there a way to remove them and keep some of the background noise so it’s not obvious that I removed them? I didn’t actually go through and listen for the “ums”, but I know there’s a furnace and a refrigerator in the area that I was doing the video, so sometimes there will be some sound in the room besides my voice. I’m using iMovie to edit. |
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Post by grumpybill on Jan 31, 2019 13:39:00 GMT -5
This morning when I saw your post on FB I bookmarked the video. Now I can put a name to the screen name. <laughing>
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Post by aDave on Jan 31, 2019 14:27:02 GMT -5
Rob Jugglerguy , I really liked the video. I thought it was nicely done for a first time venture. Personally, I had no issue with the pace and the "ums." While they were there, I didn't find them too distracting, and I'm usually a stickler for stuff like that. Over time, that should take care of itself. You already know about the darkness in the beginning so I won't go into it too much. However, you might be able to take care of problems like this by shooting different segments and editing them together, much like when you transitioned to the saw. One thing that did stand out for me when speaking to the card with stones was when you referred to the Petoskey as not being an example of a good stone. Someone else mentioned it, but try to stay positive. It just seemed to be an odd comment while trying to showcase your work, and I don't think the average person would know any different. When it came to cutting, it might be nice to explain why you cut up to a certain point and not up to (and along) the line. Perhaps also address the "cutting" being limited to straight lines and the side grinding with blade to help with the curves. Most folks here might understand, but the newb happening across your vid might not. You danced around it a bit by speaking to using the blade to grind, but I think the detail might have been nice. I happen to think you could have done some "fast forwarding" through the cutting of the deer but mainly while working with the body. I was intrigued by watching the antlers being shaped in their entirety, but I think the cutting of the body could have been sped through after you had done about half of it. That's just me.  I know you mentioned doing another vid about the tumbling of the shape, and I think that would be a great follow-up. If you do that, touch on why you weren't worried about leaving any ink on your shapes when you were done cutting. You could have done that here, but if you address it in beginning of your tumbling video, it will help to tie back into the first one. Good luck and thanks for sharing. |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Jan 31, 2019 16:44:39 GMT -5
Rob Jugglerguy , I really liked the video. I thought it was nicely done for a first time venture. Personally, I had no issue with the pace and the "ums." While they were there, I didn't find them too distracting, and I'm usually a stickler for stuff like that. Over time, that should take care of itself. You already know about the darkness in the beginning so I won't go into it too much. However, you might be able to take care of problems like this by shooting different segments and editing them together, much like when you transitioned to the saw. One thing that did stand out for me when speaking to the card with stones was when you referred to the Petoskey as not being an example of a good stone. Someone else mentioned it, but try to stay positive. It just seemed to be an odd comment while trying to showcase your work, and I don't think the average person would know any different. When it came to cutting, it might be nice to explain why you cut up to a certain point and not up to (and along) the line. Perhaps also address the "cutting" being limited to straight lines and the side grinding with blade to help with the curves. Most folks here might understand, but the newb happening across your vid might not. You danced around it a bit by speaking to using the blade to grind, but I think the detail might have been nice. I happen to think you could have done some "fast forwarding" through the cutting of the deer but mainly while working with the body. I was intrigued by watching the antlers being shaped in their entirety, but I think the cutting of the body could have been sped through after you had done about half of it. That's just me. I know you mentioned doing another vid about the tumbling of the shape, and I think that would be a great follow-up. If you do that, touch on why you weren't worried about leaving any ink on your shapes when you were done cutting. You could have done that here, but if you address it in beginning of your tumbling video, it will help to tie back into the first one. Good luck and thanks for sharing. Thanks Dave. I particularly like the idea of mentioning the ink on the next video. |
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Post by miket on Jan 31, 2019 16:57:02 GMT -5
I finally got around to watching this and it was perfect for someone newish like me.
I've been cutting small slabs and preforms and things like using the side of the blade are things I've learned along the way on my tile saw.
Some day when I get a Lot-O I'll have to try more intricate shapes.
Anyway, no constructive criticism from me- just letting you know I liked it.
I didn't think you spoke too fast, by the way. I had no trouble understanding.
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Post by greig on Feb 2, 2019 12:24:36 GMT -5
I have subscribed. If you are worried about the "ums", most can easily be removed during editing. This was a better first video than most. Keep posting. ;-) Thanks Grieg. Is there a way to remove them and keep some of the background noise so it’s not obvious that I removed them? I didn’t actually go through and listen for the “ums”, but I know there’s a furnace and a refrigerator in the area that I was doing the video, so sometimes there will be some sound in the room besides my voice. I’m using iMovie to edit. I also use iMovie. There will of course be a cut if you chop the video to remove the pauses - - but in my opinion, it is still better than leaving the pause. One little trick to make it seem less obvious, is use the crop feature in iMovie (crop to size or Ken Burns zoom) on the prior segment, so at the same time as you chop the video, the size of the image changes. It makes it look like it was intentional. I am sure there are other ways, but this one I discovered myself thru trial and error and use it quite often. The best thing to do is turn off the the furnace when filming. The blower can be pretty loud. A fridge is not usually so bad, but if it bothers you, do the same. Just remember to turn them back on when you are done. Other ways around it are either directional microphones or fix in edit. In iMovie edit, you can play with audio effects (found in the effects tab with the three circles). I try not to use this feature, as it sometimes fixes one thing and makes something else sound strange. |
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Post by Jugglerguy on Feb 2, 2019 12:36:49 GMT -5
Thanks Grieg. Is there a way to remove them and keep some of the background noise so it’s not obvious that I removed them? I didn’t actually go through and listen for the “ums”, but I know there’s a furnace and a refrigerator in the area that I was doing the video, so sometimes there will be some sound in the room besides my voice. I’m using iMovie to edit. I also use iMovie. There will of course be a cut if you chop the video to remove the pauses - - but in my opinion, it is still better than leaving the pause. One little trick to make it seem less obvious, is use the crop feature in iMovie (crop to size or Ken Burns zoom) on the prior segment, so at the same time as you chop the video, the size of the image changes. It makes it look like it was intentional. I am sure there are other ways, but this one I discovered myself thru trial and error and use it quite often. The best thing to do is turn off the the furnace when filming. The blower can be pretty loud. A fridge is not usually so bad, but if it bothers you, do the same. Just remember to turn them back on when you are done. Other ways around it are either directional microphones or fix in edit. In iMovie edit, you can play with audio effects (found in the effects tab with the three circles). I try not to use this feature, as it sometimes fixes one thing and makes something else sound strange. I like your idea of cropping at the same time as the edit. I think I’ll try that on my next video. So far I haven’t purchased any special equipment like microphones. I’m using a used Sony Cybershot camera. I should look into getting one of those fuzzy microphones for outdoor videos. Maybe I’ll turn off the furnace too. My wife will remind me that it’s off when she gets cold. |
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Post by grumpybill on Feb 2, 2019 16:25:59 GMT -5
If you buy a mic, get a lapel/tie clasp type. It will be closer to your voice and your body will block out some unwanted sound.
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