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Post by jamesp on Mar 7, 2019 13:08:08 GMT -5
Auto mode of the iPad Pro is really user friendly, very realistic, and reproduced pure white background. Killer color. my favorite: ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7903/47310395871_3c5b77ea05_z.jpg) Auto mode with Nikon DSLR at various ISO settings(the ISO settings made little difference in quality): ISO 200: ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7919/46587051864_83445aabbe_z.jpg) ISO 1600 (1/240th) ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7880/46587054894_6ac873f312_z.jpg) ISO 3200 (1/400th) ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7830/46587058004_7085e983cf_z.jpg) Certainly the Nikon could be adjusted to perform much better. Namely the white balance. To be honest I was unable to get the color and balance adjusted to match the rich color of the iPad go figure. Certainly my shortcomings.
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Post by aDave on Mar 7, 2019 13:45:20 GMT -5
Very interesting results. I would have expected different than what you found.
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Post by jimaz on Mar 7, 2019 13:53:25 GMT -5
Says a lot for the iPad’s photo capability.
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Post by MsAli on Mar 7, 2019 14:00:47 GMT -5
Ipad photo is the best
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 7, 2019 15:32:06 GMT -5
I use a gray card to set the white balance on my Nikon dslr. Then, it does a good job. That ipad is giving the Nikon a run for the money!
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Post by jamesp on Mar 7, 2019 15:50:15 GMT -5
Very interesting results. I would have expected different than what you found. Those 2 desk lamps have Home Depot bulbs Dave. I am usually successful at dialing in white balance on the ole Nikon. Not with those 2 bulbs. Even when going into choosing color temp I can not get the subject to agree with an adjusted white background. I figured out why. There are 2 different temperature bulbs in the lamps. BUT - the darn iPad's auto mode still deciphered thru the dual source and still nailed the white background and go figure. I tried 7 fluorescent settings, half a dozen temperature settings and a bunch of incandescent settings on the Nikon and COULD NOT get the Nikon dialed in. Must be the 2 different LED sources preventing success but you would think the temp settings would account for the blending of 2 different temperature light sources. NOT Nikon WB menu's: ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7830/46396940895_578ec0b6e0_n.jpg) Never had this adjustment fail me till this go: ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/46396944365_e3aa09be74_n.jpg) And just to be clear on the correct iPad, 128GB iPad camera on left, 32GB on right. The 32GB camera is useless. Both 3 years old. ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7862/40347006083_7681e3714f_c.jpg)
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Post by jamesp on Mar 7, 2019 15:55:06 GMT -5
I use a gray card to set the white balance on my Nikon dslr. Then, it does a good job. That ipad is giving the Nikon a run for the money! I heard that takes ALL the guess work and trail and error out of this issue Tela and it obviously works in your photos. Someday I must try your method.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 7, 2019 16:01:46 GMT -5
Tell it Alison. That one really takes showy photos. It is #1 choice for the glass and so easy to use. It processes weird light sources constantly. Love the big screen for composing. Then iCloud to the laptop instantly. Or email, photoshop, share or whatever to the photos.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 7, 2019 16:17:46 GMT -5
Says a lot for the iPad’s photo capability. It is the 3 year old high end iPad 128GB that has the great camera jimaz. Looking on Ebay, used ones for $150. Not a bad deal for a digital camera w/9.7 inch screen/ powerful computer.
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Post by pizzano on Mar 7, 2019 16:36:32 GMT -5
My daughter has the Apple 12.9" Pro pad and the iPhone X........they both take amassing photos......they should for what they cost....lol.....It's no secret that Apple media (audio/visual) hardware and software technology ranks among the global leaders (may still be the leader).......professional industries, for years, have been using it for studio music and video production......I personally use it for demo audio recording.
For "photo shopping" all those keeper's to get that magnificent gloss reproduction quality......(and I'm just learning about this application), the preference for the "pro" user's "marketing and advertisement's".......a DSLR and lenses of quality seem to be the preference. Using PC software flexibility to enhance and transfer reproduction......I'm not familiar with the Pro-Pad, but I have used the iPhone X, there is a very large learning curve to get results DSLR quality, but it can be done. The cropping and white balance tools are most effective if one has a good handle of digital photography basics and familiarity with DSLR cameras.........That's where I'm at right now.........thus, my purchase of a good DLSR camera.
Still very amassed at so many of the digital photo's posted here (software modified or otherwise)........really good stuff....!
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Post by aDave on Mar 7, 2019 17:24:50 GMT -5
Those 2 desk lamps have Home Depot bulbs Dave. I am usually successful at dialing in white balance on the ole Nikon. Not with those 2 bulbs. Even when going into choosing color temp I can not get the subject to agree with an adjusted white background. I figured out why. There are 2 different temperature bulbs in the lamps. BUT - the darn iPad's auto mode still deciphered thru the dual source and still nailed the white background and go figure. I tried 7 fluorescent settings, half a dozen temperature settings and a bunch of incandescent settings on the Nikon and COULD NOT get the Nikon dialed in. Must be the 2 different LED sources preventing success but you would think the temp settings would account for the blending of 2 different temperature light sources. NOT Nikon WB menu's: ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7830/46396940895_578ec0b6e0_n.jpg) Never had this adjustment fail me till this go: ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7847/46396944365_e3aa09be74_n.jpg) And just to be clear on the correct iPad, 128GB iPad camera on left, 32GB on right. The 32GB camera is useless. Both 3 years old. ![](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7862/40347006083_7681e3714f_c.jpg) I'm not surprised that an actual temperature setting got you more dialed in. For incandescent lighting, color temp is somewhere around 3000K (off the top of my head). To balance, you'd need more toward the white or blue color temps (5000K and up) to offset. That color grid in your menu is kind of confusing. I wouldn't be sure if it's asking for the actual color temp your shooting in, or if it wants you to select the color to offset your lighting. Tela rockjunquie has a good point about using grey cards. If you go this route, make sure you get a card that is designed for white balance as opposed to an 18% grey scale card. That card is designed for taking exposure readings. White balance cards are used for...well, white balance adjustment. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by jamesp on Mar 8, 2019 11:04:13 GMT -5
Including sunlight we may have like 8 different artificial light sources aDave. My wife has 2 small businesses, a karate dog leash business and a pendant light business. Then I am always taking photos of rocks and glass in several locations here. We usually choose this iPad in auto-mode for easy photos under the many different light sources. That color grid seems to select the color to off-set your incandescent lighting. The lamps mentioned are fluorescent, the menu has categories for 7 different types of fluorescent lighting. Not one of them would work with these 2 lamps, frustrating. We have started replacing old fluorescent fixtures with LED fixtures. They put out some very white light. The old Nikon D90 does not have WB categories for LED lighting but the fluorescent categories work well with the fluorescent categories. A 1500 or 2500 lumen shop light from Home Depot is incredibly bright white yet generates little heat and low wattage. Husky brand, small, rugged, compact and inexpensive.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 8, 2019 11:34:52 GMT -5
My daughter has the Apple 12.9" Pro pad and the iPhone X........they both take amassing photos......they should for what they cost....lol.....It's no secret that Apple media (audio/visual) hardware and software technology ranks among the global leaders (may still be the leader).......professional industries, for years, have been using it for studio music and video production......I personally use it for demo audio recording.
For "photo shopping" all those keeper's to get that magnificent gloss reproduction quality......(and I'm just learning about this application), the preference for the "pro" user's "marketing and advertisement's".......a DSLR and lenses of quality seem to be the preference. Using PC software flexibility to enhance and transfer reproduction......I'm not familiar with the Pro-Pad, but I have used the iPhone X, there is a very large learning curve to get results DSLR quality, but it can be done. The cropping and white balance tools are most effective if one has a good handle of digital photography basics and familiarity with DSLR cameras.........That's where I'm at right now.........thus, my purchase of a good DLSR camera.
Still very amassed at so many of the digital photo's posted here (software modified or otherwise)........really good stuff....!
Looks like you found the i products are nice too pizzano. Looks like Apple hit their first home run with the iPhone 7. It appears this phone camera was the infant of this camera design. Improvements have been added to the 7 base. For computer screen sized photos these cameras are dialed in quite well.
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Post by pizzano on Mar 8, 2019 20:20:24 GMT -5
Yes jamesp.........very impressed with the iPhone.......I just recently compared some of my D7000 pic's to a few of my daughters pic's I have loaded on the laptop, the resolution quality, sized and cropped at the same rates, are almost identical. If she had shot her's JPEG'd the same size, I doubt there would be any difference at all.....apples to apples. Had I needed a phone and not just the camera, I may have gone that direction when shopping for a good camera........but I'm now more than pleased with the D7000......your D90 menu is almost identical to mine.
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Post by NRG on Mar 8, 2019 20:24:54 GMT -5
Nikon = color balance fail.
iPad for the win!
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