jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Mar 9, 2019 7:57:51 GMT -5
My wife's old iPhone 7 was with Verizon and has been removed from her Verizon account yet still serves well as camera(thru Wi FI ?). Even though it has been removed from the Verizon account it still takes and shares great photos to flickr/Facebook/iPhoto/thru cloud/email etc. It has the updated camera, from the fast f2.2 to blazing fast f1.8 lens. Hand held shot in auto. Light source is one Home Depot fluorescent bulb in a desk lamp. No light box. Easy peasy. Photo taken and shared via cloud. Not photo shopped except cropping. Not bad considering I never used her phone camera. Fast f1.8 light grabber lens easily allows crisp hand held macro's due to 120th shutter speed. A technical marvel in digital camera no doubt. My older iPad Pro has the slower f2.2 lens. All else similar to the iPhone 7. Well enough.
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Post by fernwood on Mar 9, 2019 8:13:38 GMT -5
I still have my Casio Exilm phone. It was actually a camera with a built in phone/video recorder. Military specs. Dropped mine in a puddle once, no problem.
Took amazing photos, which could be fully controlled. Just need to find a charger for it. Have some spare batteries.
I really dislike how controls on everything from phones to computers are being dumbed down. Very little control over settings, just default ones, lighting and if you are lucky, resolution.
The Casio has quick setting adjustments, including white balance, macro, movement and others. It is a 2012 phone.
I love the micro SD card in it.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Mar 9, 2019 8:29:52 GMT -5
I still have my Casio Exilm phone. It was actually a camera with a built in phone/video recorder. Military specs. Dropped mine in a puddle once, no problem. Took amazing photos, which could be fully controlled. Just need to find a charger for it. Have some spare batteries. I really dislike how controls on everything from phones to computers are being dumbed down. Very little control over settings, just default ones, lighting and if you are lucky, resolution. The Casio has quick setting adjustments, including white balance, macro, movement and others. It is a 2012 phone. I love the micro SD card in it. If not mistaken a giant camera is no better than a tiny camera for taking photos in good light(average conditions) and making screen sized photos. Granted long telephoto lenses, low light conditions, large CCD receivers, etc can require large camera lenses. In the past it was probably easier to make/grind optically perfect lenses when they are larger. But modern expensive precision equipment can produce micro lenses with extremely high degrees of accuracy. The cell phone craze is motivating this money making technology in this modern internet world of photo sharing. The camera industry has never seen such a large demand in it's history. I wish they would make a small match box camera utilizing just the cell phone camera, dedicated camera without all the cell phone paraphernalia attached.
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Post by fernwood on Mar 9, 2019 11:16:22 GMT -5
My Casio phone is much smaller than my IPhone SE. Really miss having it as a phone. It was a smart phone, but more of a camera and basic phone/text to me, as I used none of the internet capabilities at the time.
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cosmetal
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Post by cosmetal on Mar 9, 2019 11:40:25 GMT -5
jamesp Are you using any sort of mechanical support when you take pics with your smartphone cameras? Or just handheld? Either way, your pics are stunning! This showed up in my inbox this a.m. from Rio Grande Jewelry Supply: A Desktop Photo Studio Just for JewelryGem LightboxNice looking - seems built well - good pics and vids. But at $899.00 ($1,298.00 with turntable kit) plus shipping, a little too rich for my beer budget! James
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Post by 1dave on Mar 10, 2019 15:34:23 GMT -5
Now you have me wondering about the vibration rate of my shaking hands. I had to give up hand held photography 5 years ago. Must use a tripod to get anything in focus.
If photos have "flutter" at F1.8 and 1/120th second, then hands must be shaking faster than that.
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cosmetal
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Post by cosmetal on Mar 11, 2019 10:27:11 GMT -5
Now you have me wondering about the vibration rate of my shaking hands. I had to give up hand held photography 5 years ago. Must use a tripod to get anything in focus. If photos have "flutter" at F1.8 and 1/120th second, then hands must be shaking faster than that. Hopefully, jamsp will chime in with his comments/opinions on both my post and yours. Peace, James
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 11, 2019 10:59:53 GMT -5
Now you have me wondering about the vibration rate of my shaking hands. I had to give up hand held photography 5 years ago. Must use a tripod to get anything in focus. If photos have "flutter" at F1.8 and 1/120th second, then hands must be shaking faster than that. Hopefully, jamsp will chime in with his comments/opinions on both my post and yours. Peace, James You can tag people to get their attention by placing @ symbol in front of their screen name with no space. It creates this jamesp
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cosmetal
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Post by cosmetal on Mar 11, 2019 11:37:27 GMT -5
Hopefully, jamsp will chime in with his comments/opinions on both my post and yours. Peace, James You can tag people to get their attention by placing @ symbol in front of their screen name with no space. It creates this jamesp Cool . . . Thanks, rockjunquie! James
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Mar 11, 2019 12:18:27 GMT -5
jamesp Are you using any sort of mechanical support when you take pics with your smartphone cameras? Or just handheld? Either way, your pics are stunning! This showed up in my inbox this a.m. from Rio Grande Jewelry Supply: A Desktop Photo Studio Just for JewelryGem LightboxNice looking - seems built well - good pics and vids. But at $899.00 ($1,298.00 with turntable kit) plus shipping, a little too rich for my beer budget! James Yes, hand held. Thanks for pointing that out. Big hassle saver. Because the lens is f1.8 to f2.2 it grabs a lot of light allowing the fast 1/120 shutter speed cosmetal. 1/120 is easily a hand held shutter speed for a close up photo say 2 to 4 inches away from subject. At the 5 to 8 inch distance I was using for posted pics 1/80th second is easily hand held. 5 to 8 inches with out activating the zoom. 1/60 second is about the slowest for a hand held distant photo. If you start dropping to 1/50th 1/40th you are gambling on a blurred focus. Note that the flat phones and pads can easily be placed on a block or a small box to prevent shake. A Rice a Roni box is about the right height. If you want to eliminate all shadows then go w/the light box. I just used a couple of cheap desk lamps. One from left, one from right, at a low angle from horizontal. Auto camera settings, the phone chose these automatically. Back ground is a sheet of copy paper.: This domestic bulb each lamp:
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cosmetal
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Post by cosmetal on Mar 11, 2019 13:06:56 GMT -5
Thanks, jamesp for the tips & hints. My wife just bought an iPad mini 4 to help with her genealogical research. With its ƒ/2.4 aperture and A8 chip with M8 motion coprocessor, I'm not too impressed from a photography standpoint (shh . . , don't tell her!). But, I have no doubt that, with your hints, my photography results using it would be much better than my 10+year-old DSLR camera. Now, I just have to convince her that it's in our both interest (she does wire-wrapping) to allow me to even touch it and experiment with taking some photographs. Perhaps I should use a better word than "experimenting" when approaching her. James
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Mar 12, 2019 5:52:37 GMT -5
Thanks, jamesp for the tips & hints. My wife just bought an iPad mini 4 to help with her genealogical research. With its ƒ/2.4 aperture and A8 chip with M8 motion coprocessor, I'm not too impressed from a photography standpoint (shh . . , don't tell her!). But, I have no doubt that, with your hints, my photography results using it would be much better than my 10+year-old DSLR camera. Now, I just have to convince her that it's in our both interest (she does wire-wrapping) to allow me to even touch it and experiment with taking some photographs. Perhaps I should use a better word than "experimenting" when approaching her. James Ask for permission or beg for forgiveness ? A few photos on the ole iPad is certainly a benign act. I'd go for it. You can be prepared for the ensuing storm he he. Or, "I have some iPad photo lesson tricks Sweetie" and loose the fake grin or she'll nail you. Take her to dinner where a handsome young waiter will serve you and hope she flirts with him to the degree she feels guilty and may repay you with an iPad permit ? In any case, some form of treachery might be the best path.
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Post by NevadaBill on Mar 13, 2019 10:23:12 GMT -5
I own a new Pixel 3. It takes better photos in complete darkness (using Night Mode) than my old iPhone. I am happy I jumped.
You are getting great results with your older iPhone 7. The form factor of the 7 is nice too. It's a keeper.
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