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Post by parfive on Apr 6, 2019 17:17:34 GMT -5
The man at Mount Sinai died after 90 days in the hospital, but C. auris did not. Tests showed it was everywhere in his room, so invasive that the hospital needed special cleaning equipment and had to rip out some of the ceiling and floor tiles to eradicate it.
“Everything was positive — the walls, the bed, the doors, the curtains, the phones, the sink, the whiteboard, the poles, the pump,” said Dr. Scott Lorin, the hospital’s president. “The mattress, the bed rails, the canister holes, the window shades, the ceiling, everything in the room was positive.”
www.nytimes.com/2019/04/06/health/drug-resistant-candida-auris.html
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Post by mohs on Apr 6, 2019 19:10:39 GMT -5
No reason to cause a panic ! Yet another reason I avoid hospitals Although that a lie I go to the hospital quite often to dine Some may think that strange But where else is an old guy suppose to get a fairly reasonable selection of food for a decent price? Being alone no problemo! Although Ya think I'd meet a nurse eventually So I hope they keep the fungi separate from the mushrooms If that positive I'm either be sick'n or trippin...
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Post by fernwood on Apr 6, 2019 19:55:45 GMT -5
Oh my. Hopefully they got it all.
@mohs My fiance was often in the hospital the last few years of his life. One affiliated with Mayo. They had the best food there and a huge cafeteria. Salad, taco, potato and breakfast bars. Fresh cooked meats/veggies in another area. Lots of beverage choices. Many soups/breads too. Amazing dessert selection. Almost everything was marked with calories/carb./sugar content.
Prices were so reasonable, that many people went there to eat. The cafeteria was open from 6:00 AM to 9:00 PM daily. The same meal one could get at area restaurants for $20.00, cost less than $10.00 at the hospital. I liked being able to choose exactly what went on my salads, tacos, potatoes, etc. Being able to choose exact portion size of everything.
I do not feel your dining at a hospital is strange at all.
When fiance went there for an appointment, we always ate there. Visitors of those in the hospital could order room service if they did not want to go to the cafeteria. Patients were able to select from a massive amount of choices for their meals.
I never heard of any illnesses resulting from the food there.
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Post by mohs on Apr 6, 2019 21:12:02 GMT -5
right on Beth !
When i used to work the graveyard shift the hospital cafeteria was open till 1 a.m
got a lot of late night breakfast's there think that where the habit started
I always figured that the food had to be relatively healthy being that they were serving doctors
and I've noticed that at least in the last decade they have really up-scaled the presentation some are even geared towards the public
I got really great Christmas dinner there!
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Post by fernwood on Apr 6, 2019 21:27:31 GMT -5
I spent Christmas Eve and Day in the Hospital with Fiance. He wanted me to do room service, but I left for a few minutes and went to cafeteria. Surf and Turf for Eve and Quail for Day. With all the fixings. They even had a special discount for family members of patients. Unbelievable.
Yes, very healthy. Well, except for some of the condiments and some desserts, but everyone needs a treat now and then.
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Post by mohs on Apr 6, 2019 22:15:51 GMT -5
I spent the time with my poor Mother in ICU I always ordered her meals She was on real restricted diet As these were last meal days She told me wanted a Thanksgiving dinner That really put me on the spot! Best I could come up with is I went to the store and got some cranberry sauce & to McDonalds’s chicken mcnuggets I snuck then into the room She really like them Plus the cafeteria had mashed potatoes & gravy, green bean mix O plus & I got her some sweets from Dunkins Donuts Ha ha That was her fave So we had really nice small meal O they’re another story of me getting a dinner for another seriously ill person in the hospital That almost turned out disastrous But I scored
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 2:01:04 GMT -5
Hospital cafeterias around here serve great food at great prices, too.
Some of the drug-resistant illnesses out there are truly scary, however. Hospitals are getting better at identifying and removing them when they come in from outside. Some folks make the mistake of thinking that hospitals are the cause, though. The overuse and misuse of drugs (antibiotics, antivirals, antifungals) both in humans, animals and horticulture is leading to these new strains that are resistant to anything we can throw at them. Those super-bugs are proliferating out there in the wild.
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 7, 2019 5:53:05 GMT -5
I read that article yesterday, scarey stuff.
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Post by fernwood on Apr 7, 2019 6:56:33 GMT -5
People are becoming germaphobics. Best advice I ever got was from my daughter a few years ago. She told me to stop using hand sanitizer, as it lowered ones resistance and destroyed the good bacteria. Since then, I developed an allergy to products containing alcohol.
I must frequently wash hands at work, but rarely do at home. My resistance to nasty things has increased dramatically. I do need to put up with minor illnesses from time to time, but well worth it. If I can have a minor cold for a few days that prevents me from getting something worse, that is great.
My 4 legged family members are extremely healthy. They often lick my hands and share their good bacteria with me. I think nothing of having my hands licked and then eating something without washing my hands.
I read that washing hands under warm water for 23 seconds is as effective as using soap. 23 seconds is the time it takes to "sing" the first verse of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. You must be careful to rub all areas of your hands while doing this. The only thing that soap does is get into places you might have missed and under fingernails.
Take the following for what it is worth. Know that not everyone agrees. How the food we eat is contaminated is another story. I always wash fruits/veggies/fungi from unknown sources under running water for 20 seconds before eating/preparing. Many veggies are purchased local. All meats are purchased local from raisers who do not use chemical antibiotics or other drugs on their animals or the food they eat. Eggs are local as well. I raise/gather many fruits/veggies/herbs/fungi from my land. Do not use any chemicals on my yard, other than spot spraying with Borax/water for the nasty stuff, aka burdocks, burning nettles (which I am very allergic to) and others. I harvest burdock roots from the edge of my yard. They are a very healthy treat. Grow a variety of herbs, which I dry and use. Preserve the fruits and make sauces/jellies from them. Make many of my own beverages, but am still addicted to coffee, lol. All other purchased beverages come from trusted sources.
Between than lack of hand washing and knowing where about 75% of my food comes from has raised my resistance considerably. Going out to eat is another consideration. Have not done that for months, except when my daughter and I went to a trusted restaurant near me for my B-day.
Many hospitals are not to blame for the super illnesses that are out there. I feel that chemical companies, pharma companies and the mainstream media are the ones who are. JMHO.
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Post by toiv0 on Apr 7, 2019 7:01:05 GMT -5
People are becoming germaphobics. Best advice I ever got was from my daughter a few years ago. She told me to stop using hand sanitizer, as it lowered ones resistance and destroyed the good bacteria. Since then, I developed an allergy to products containing alcohol. I must frequently wash hands at work, but rarely do at home. My resistance to nasty things has increased dramatically. I do need to put up with minor illnesses from time to time, but well worth it. If I can have a minor cold for a few days that prevents me from getting something worse, that is great. My 4 legged family members are extremely healthy. They often lick my hands and share their good bacteria with me. I think nothing of having my hands licked and then eating something without washing my hands. I read that washing hands under warm water for 23 seconds is as effective as using soap. 23 seconds is the time it takes to "sing" the first verse of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. You must be careful to rub all areas of your hands while doing this. The only thing that soap does is get into places you might have missed and under fingernails. Take the following for what it is worth. Know that not everyone agrees. How the food we eat is contaminated is another story. I always wash fruits/veggies/fungi from unknown sources under running water for 20 seconds before eating/preparing. Many veggies are purchased local. All meats are purchased local from raisers who do not use chemical antibiotics or other drugs on their animals or the food they eat. Eggs are local as well. I raise/gather many fruits/veggies/herbs/fungi from my land. Do not use any chemicals on my yard, other than spot spraying with Borax/water for the nasty stuff, aka burdocks, burning nettles (which I am very allergic to) and others. I harvest burdock roots from the edge of my yard. They are a very healthy treat. Grow a variety of herbs, which I dry and use. Preserve the fruits and make sauces/jellies from them. Make many of my own beverages, but am still addicted to coffee, lol. All other purchased beverages come from trusted sources. Between than lack of hand washing and knowing where about 75% of my food comes from has raised my resistance considerably. Going out to eat is another consideration. Have not done that for months, except when my daughter and I went to a trusted restaurant near me for my B-day. Many hospitals are not to blame for the super illnesses that are out there. I feel that chemical companies, pharma companies and the mainstream media are the ones who are. JMHO. . I have worked with dirt my whole life, ate and breathed enough to start my own dirt factory.
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Post by rockjunquie on Apr 7, 2019 7:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 7, 2019 8:24:50 GMT -5
We don't wash most store bought produce like Grapes berries etc. very often, they have anti whatever on them naturally. To test this wash 6 grapes or berries and bag them ,place 6 items from the same bunch in another bag without washing and watch what happens in a few days. Whatever is on them naturally works well for the fruit and I suspect it might not hurt me either. I do wash Potatoes baked with the skin on ! One itty-bitty, teenie-tiny grain of sand on a gold tooth will mess up a great meal every time as I eat the skins with the potato. Also apple cores !
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Post by fernwood on Apr 7, 2019 8:25:02 GMT -5
Agree. I was under Dr.'s orders to use hand sanitizer with my fiance, as was he. Open a door, use it. Use bathroom, touch skin, serve customers (at the bar we volunteered at), make food at bar, serve food at bar, touch money, touch shopping cart, care for animals, etc. We were going through about a quart of hand sanitizer every 2 weeks! Some previous employment places required the use of hand sanitizer. I was using it at least 24 times per day at work. Limited access to water and was not able to leave those in my care to wash hands in bathroom/kitchen/break room. Am hoping that this practice is no longer common.
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Post by fernwood on Apr 7, 2019 8:26:46 GMT -5
We don't wash most store bought produce like Grapes berries etc. very often, they have anti whatever on them naturally. To test this wash 6 grapes or berries and bag them ,place 6 items from the same bunch in another bag without washing and watch what happens in a few days. Whatever is on them naturally works well for the fruit and I suspect it might not hurt me either. I do wash Potatoes baked with the skin on ! One itty-bitty, teenie-tiny grain of sand on a gold tooth will mess up a great meal every time as I eat the skins with the potato. Also apple cores ! I wash store purchased fruit due to the potential of e coli, especially from imported fruits.
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Post by agatemaggot on Apr 7, 2019 8:35:08 GMT -5
I DO wash the Rasberries I pick along the Railroad tracks and the mulberries I pick at my cabin on the Miss. River. There are a (LOT) of Birds and Flying Squirrels that share the food source with me !
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Post by parfive on Apr 10, 2019 1:16:37 GMT -5
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