|
Post by arghvark on Apr 30, 2019 9:17:10 GMT -5
Anyone had recent experience (like in the last year or less) with these folks? Just curious. Looks like they only sell on a Facebook group now. Searched here, only found one thread from 2009.
Thanks, Argh
|
|
AuroraNan
starting to shine!
Member since December 2018
Posts: 25
|
Post by AuroraNan on Apr 30, 2019 18:48:01 GMT -5
I purchased from their FB page around the first of the year. It was an ok purchase but we haven't cut any yet, so I can't say anything about the quality. It was difficult communicating with them and delivery took forever, and I felt newcomers like me were ignored/bypassed while pals got better service. Conjecture, for certain, but that is how it felt. Comments from frequent buyers were answered quickly and it took a week to get a response to questions. The result? I won't buy again unless I have a real need, and I don't really foresee a need at this time. I do have a box of stuff that I will probably sell at a later date.
|
|
|
Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Apr 30, 2019 22:43:51 GMT -5
We bought rough from the Rhodes family before they went to eBay. Met Dale and one of his sons at Q a few years later.
Always seemed to be good people to me. The rough they've found in recent years is wild. Better than the original types. Like with a lot of things with multiple colors and patterns, some of the original types had areas (colors) that would undercut. Some were very consistent. I think the newer stuff has been said to polish more consistently.
The prices for some of the best colors and patterns got a bit high for us.
|
|
Tommy
Administrator
Member since January 2013
Posts: 12,982
|
Post by Tommy on May 1, 2019 0:28:13 GMT -5
Brian Rhodes sells on various Facebook groups and also has an Etsy shop and an Ebay store both called Lapidary Central. He has some pretty awesome materials and I buy the occasional slab from him and always thought he communicated good and delivered as stated. I don't see him selling much Kladeidoscope though. I'm not sure why. www.etsy.com/shop/LapidaryCentral
|
|
|
Post by rockjunquie on May 1, 2019 8:05:11 GMT -5
Didn't they used to be (or still are) Rhoades Cabbing on eBay? They were very upfront about how long it would take to get anything out. I got a box of K, and was very disappointed. It's still kicking around somewhere.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 14:54:21 GMT -5
Didn't they used to be (or still are) Rhoades Cabbing on eBay? They were very upfront about how long it would take to get anything out. I got a box of K, and was very disappointed. It's still kicking around somewhere. Yes, "rhodescabbin" was it (Dale Rhode, same operation). And, yes, a lot of it isn't the most remarkable stuff to come down the pike (unless the color saturation on the photos gets cranked way up) IMO. Still, there can be some chunks that yield great patterns and colors. Reminds me of a story about miner-sellers. "Kop" Kopcinski, who originally owned the Blue Mountain jasper claim (as well as several others, including the Lucky Strike thunderegg mine) had a bit of notoriety for hoarding the best stuff and only letting go of the lesser quality pieces. I saw an exquisite chunk on the shelf of a dealer and asked where she'd managed to get it. She responded, "I stole it, fair and square" (meaning that while Kop was insisting on selling her another piece, she swapped it when he wasn't looking for the one she came to buy - sort of reversed the bait and switch).
|
|
jasperfanatic
spending too much on rocks
Member since January 2019
Posts: 463
|
Post by jasperfanatic on May 1, 2019 14:59:02 GMT -5
I purchased some late last fall on eBay, slabbers, and while beautiful every last one was unstable. The worst rock for stability I've encountered yet, but that doesn't mean all of their stuff is bad. The transaction and shipping was a fine experience, the rocks just had a strong urge to become gravel.
|
|
|
Post by arghvark on May 2, 2019 10:03:20 GMT -5
I asked for others' opinions because I've been disappointed but am hesitant to slam anyone who trying to is trying to make a living. Here's my experience, stated as neutrally as possible:
Two orders, both mfrbs. Premium prices. In both cases, there are 3-5 really nice pieces, and the rest seems decent to mediocre.
In both cases, shipping took longer than stated, with no communication on the status of the order. In both cases, my requests for update received replies stating circumstances beyond the seller's control which prevented shipping within the stated time frame (4-7 business days.) In the first case, a "will go out today" with reasons for delay. Was shipped 2 days later. "Stuffed the box with gifts" to make up for it; the gifts were nothing special. In the second case, my rather tersely worded message asking what the problem was resulted in a reason that was "circumstances beyond our control" and the box was shipped within a couple hours. This was 14 days (10 business days) after paying.
In my view, communication beforehand would have resulted in these delays not being an issue to me. But responses after the fact just sound like excuses.
Finally, photos provided of material for sale are clearly taken with a camera which has color saturation turned way up. The material received isn't nearly as dramatic as "shown". All the previous issues can be chalked up to any number of reasons which are basically differences in opinion between buyer and seller as to what constitutes desirable business practice. But this to me is borderline unethical.
I've contacted the seller, stating my perspective on all this. While I won't pursue return or refund, I won't purchase more from them.
|
|
Tommy
Administrator
Member since January 2013
Posts: 12,982
|
Post by Tommy on May 2, 2019 10:39:06 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that I also purchased a flat rate box off the Facebook page probably two year ago at the height of when the new material started rolling out. Transaction went smooth, cost was a bit too high (hyped up) at $225 delivered. I opened it and found it to be very dark and not very interesting - I did cut one rock and ended up selling the box a short time later for a little less than I paid for it just to cut my losses.
|
|
Tommy
Administrator
Member since January 2013
Posts: 12,982
|
Post by Tommy on May 2, 2019 10:40:46 GMT -5
... the rocks just had a strong urge to become gravel. Hahaha that's a good one. I think I'm going to steal it.
|
|
|
Post by parfive on May 2, 2019 12:14:35 GMT -5
2009 . . . 2019 . . . leopard . . . spots
|
|
|
Post by broseph82 on May 2, 2019 12:56:10 GMT -5
2009 . . . 2019 . . . leopard . . . spots Exactly. I've never heard anyone say this was premium material that bought on the open market. Supposedly all the high grade stuff gets shipped off by the ton just like the blue mtn jasper and such.
|
|
|
Post by hummingbirdstones2 on May 3, 2019 0:30:53 GMT -5
Wow. After hearing how cracky the newer material was for some of you who bought it, I'm glad we didn't. We bought a couple of boxes from the original RhodesCabbin website in early 2010. Bought enough that we still have some of that rough.
Only one or two pieces/types were cracky, but undercutting in some others was a problem. The majority was pretty good, and if the colors on the newer rough didn't live up to the photos then what we got was okay.
|
|
Tommy
Administrator
Member since January 2013
Posts: 12,982
|
Post by Tommy on May 4, 2019 9:21:15 GMT -5
Wow. After hearing how cracky the newer material was for some of you who bought it, I'm glad we didn't. In fairness to the Rhodes I only cut one piece and it wasn't cracky that I remember ... crappy is more accurate . I don't know, but the whole box just appeared dark and kind of green. It's quite possible there was some premium cutters in the box but I'm still glad I was able to sell it for almost what I paid for it.
|
|
|
Post by broseph82 on May 6, 2019 11:54:28 GMT -5
Wow. After hearing how cracky the newer material was for some of you who bought it, I'm glad we didn't. In fairness to the Rhodes I only cut one piece and it wasn't cracky that I remember ... crappy is more accurate . I don't know, but the whole box just appeared dark and kind of green. It's quite possible there was some premium cutters in the box but I'm still glad I was able to sell it for almost what I paid for it. I doubt it. There’d be more success stories if there were. Seems like it just looks really good on a computer screen rather than in person.
|
|
|
Post by arghvark on May 6, 2019 15:28:50 GMT -5
Update: The day before I posted my experiences here, I messaged the seller telling them how I felt and saying that while I wouldn't seek a refund, I wouldn't be buying any more. My message was calm and direct. Didn't berate or insult or yell or scream, just stated the facts as I saw them. Anyway, never got a response. They just kicked me out of the fb group where they sell, without saying a word. Pretty much confirms everything I've been thinking.
|
|
|
Post by Rockindad on May 6, 2019 15:41:20 GMT -5
Update: The day before I posted my experiences here, I messaged the seller telling them how I felt and saying that while I wouldn't seek a refund, I wouldn't be buying any more. My message was calm and direct. Didn't berate or insult or yell or scream, just stated the facts as I saw them. Anyway, never got a response. They just kicked me out of the fb group where they sell, without saying a word. Pretty much confirms everything I've been thinking. Real classy, wouldn't want to deal with them again anyways. Thanks for getting the word out. Al
|
|
|
Post by arghvark on May 7, 2019 8:52:40 GMT -5
Lol, last update.
Sent one final message, trying to communicate a vision of "best practices" from both the perspective of customer and seller. (In previous lives I've worked in sales-dependent positions in a couple of different types of markets.) Dismal failure. Got a rather snitty response, basically putting it all on me. Ok. We're done here, lol, not worth bothering.
|
|
Tommy
Administrator
Member since January 2013
Posts: 12,982
|
Post by Tommy on May 8, 2019 20:24:49 GMT -5
Got a rather snitty response, basically putting it all on me. Ok. We're done here, lol, not worth bothering. That's too bad. May I inquire as to the source of the snittyness? You don't have to name names if you're not feeling it but maybe just small, medium, or large? I'm hoping it's not 'small' because I enjoy dealing with him but I've never needed customer service either.
|
|