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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 13:54:55 GMT -5
So, drilling holes was waaaay easier than I imagined. Got the core bits today and started drilling using the moldable plastic method. Using the plastic was harder than drilling a hole by a long shot. Now, I want to put a cord on the bead. I don't want a half hitch where you pass the doubled middle through the hole and then bring the ends through that. I want one piece of cord to go through the hole, but somehow I need two ends to come out. Like this one I found on etsy. Does anyone know how or where to point me?  |
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Post by drocknut on May 23, 2019 17:22:51 GMT -5
I have no idea but it looks like the wrap on the top of the bead could be one half of the cord wrapped around the other side. Does that make sense? I don't quite know how to explain it.
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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 17:26:41 GMT -5
I have no idea but it looks like the wrap on the top of the bead could be one half of the cord wrapped around the other side. Does that make sense? I don't quite know how to explain it. I was thinking it was like a fisherman's knot. The ends of this did have a clasp. So, I'm thinking the "loose" end of the knot was left long enough to make a necklace with. |
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Post by aDave on May 23, 2019 19:24:36 GMT -5
I was thinking it was like a fisherman's knot. The ends of this did have a clasp. So, I'm thinking the "loose" end of the knot was left long enough to make a necklace with. Tela, are you just looking for ideas? Or ideas and directions? I found this: |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 19:27:53 GMT -5
I was thinking it was like a fisherman's knot. The ends of this did have a clasp. So, I'm thinking the "loose" end of the knot was left long enough to make a necklace with. Tela, are you just looking for ideas? Or ideas and directions? I found this: I can't see what you posted. Looking for ideas and directions. I looked at 100's today. I never really saw anything I liked. |
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Post by aDave on May 23, 2019 19:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by aDave on May 23, 2019 19:33:25 GMT -5
I can't see what you posted. Looking for ideas and directions. I looked at 100's today. I never really saw anything I liked. Hmmm...interesting. In any event do a Google search for "Knots for tying pendants." I just tried the embed again and came up with the same thing. Try doing a Google search as I mentioned. Look for a search result that is titled "64 Best Knots...not just knots, but jewelery finishing knots images ..." Perhaps you have already been there, but it's a start. Another site I found was called, "Animated Knots." Maybe there will be some ideas there. |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 20:43:17 GMT -5
I can't see what you posted. Looking for ideas and directions. I looked at 100's today. I never really saw anything I liked. Hmmm...interesting. In any event do a Google search for "Knots for tying pendants." I just tried the embed again and came up with the same thing. Try doing a Google search as I mentioned. Look for a search result that is titled "64 Best Knots...not just knots, but jewelery finishing knots images ..." Perhaps you have already been there, but it's a start. Another site I found was called, "Animated Knots." Maybe there will be some ideas there. I wonder why your images aren't showing? |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 20:45:43 GMT -5
Thanks, aDave- I feel like I am on a wild goose chase. Everything except what I am looking for. I've spent a lot of time looking but nowhere can I find the right knot-- OR I am just not putting 2 and 2 together. |
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on May 23, 2019 21:12:11 GMT -5
You mention using the moldable plastic taking longer then drilling the hole. If that is the case are you going to keep using that method? Did you like it even though it took a long time to use? Which drill bits and what size did you go with from rio. Sorry so many questions. Drilling has never been something I enjoy but should try it again.
Chuck
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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 22:04:00 GMT -5
You mention using the moldable plastic taking longer then drilling the hole. If that is the case are you going to keep using that method? Did you like it even though it took a long time to use? Which drill bits and what size did you go with from rio. Sorry so many questions. Drilling has never been something I enjoy but should try it again. Chuck The first mold I did was way too much plastic. As a result, it was really hard and time consuming to get the cab out of the mold. But, after I heated it to release the first one, which took awhile, I divided it up and had enough for at least 3 cabs. It was easier and faster with less plastic. Also, I didn't wait for it to harden to drill with it. It was half hard and worked fine. I think going forward, I will continue to perfect my technique, but it really isn't something to do for production. I also just used a jar lid with water in it to drill in, holding the stone with my hand. Faster. Much faster. I need to find a lid deep enough to put a little piece of wood or something in the bottom. I had a little panic when I realized that I might drill through the metal lid and cause a giant mess. LOL! I got an assortment of bits. I got the cheap Chinese ones in 1.5, 2, 2.5 and 3 and some Rio (made in Taiwan) ones that were sold by the piece. I think I got 2mm and 3mm of those. I also ordered some from the rockshed to try but they aren't here, yet. I like the 3mm hole for cord, but the smaller holes are better for wire. I haven't used the Chinese, yet, but the Taiwan ones seem really good. |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 23, 2019 22:08:05 GMT -5
I've been sitting here for an hour trying to tie fancy knots with rubber cord. Don''t try it. It can't be done- not without a lot of vegetable oil. I need to buy new cord.
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Post by fernwood on May 24, 2019 6:11:01 GMT -5
I have used macrame style knots for something like this.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on May 24, 2019 6:55:50 GMT -5
I bought a really cool homemade lapidary drill press a few years ago. Need to dig it out and give it a whirl again. Here's a quick video of the drill press. Adjustable speed from 0-5000 rpm. I bought it at at a gem show and the guy said he built several of them. I mostly bought it because I liked the home brew engineering that went into it. The actual drill press portion was originally made to hold old electric hand drills. This is what he started with  Chuck |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 24, 2019 7:49:48 GMT -5
I bought a really cool homemade lapidary drill press a few years ago. Need to dig it out and give it a whirl again. Here's a quick video of the drill press. Adjustable speed from 0-5000 rpm. I bought it at at a gem show and the guy said he built several of them. I mostly bought it because I liked the home brew engineering that went into it. The actual drill press portion was originally made to hold old electric hand drills. This is what he started with Chuck That'l do it.  |
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Post by opalpyrexia on May 24, 2019 9:01:57 GMT -5
You might take a look at a surgeon's loop knot, but instead of passing the loop with the stone, pass the two ends of the cord. Not sure if that will give you a good cinch tight to the stone, just an idea.
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Post by rockjunquie on May 24, 2019 17:07:01 GMT -5
You might take a look at a surgeon's loop knot, but instead of passing the loop with the stone, pass the two ends of the cord. Not sure if that will give you a good cinch tight to the stone, just an idea. I went ahead and ordered some leather. I learned the hard way that rubber is not good for knotting. I'll try that and others when I get the leather. I was getting close to what I wanted with the Grinner not, but I couldn't slide the rubber. |
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Post by opalpyrexia on May 24, 2019 17:22:01 GMT -5
You might take a look at a surgeon's loop knot, but instead of passing the loop with the stone, pass the two ends of the cord. Not sure if that will give you a good cinch tight to the stone, just an idea. I went ahead and ordered some leather. I learned the hard way that rubber is not good for knotting. I'll try that and others when I get the leather. I was getting close to what I wanted with the Grinner not, but I couldn't slide the rubber. I meant to say double surgeon's knot. I think that it may work and look similar to the knot in your original post. |
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Post by harrym on May 24, 2019 17:27:58 GMT -5
I've been sitting here for an hour trying to tie fancy knots with rubber cord. Don''t try it. It can't be done- not without a lot of vegetable oil. I need to buy new cord. Where do you buy your rubber cord? I have seen all types but not rubber. |
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Post by rockjunquie on May 24, 2019 17:31:30 GMT -5
I've been sitting here for an hour trying to tie fancy knots with rubber cord. Don''t try it. It can't be done- not without a lot of vegetable oil. I need to buy new cord. Where do you buy your rubber cord? I have seen all types but not rubber. To tell you the truth, I forgot where I got it. You might try Rio, though. I do a lot of shopping there. |
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