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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 10:11:59 GMT -5
Post by creativeminded on Feb 10, 2005 10:11:59 GMT -5
anyone know about bismuth crystale?? have made some small ones had fun halabitI found this message on the Lapidary tip board and thought I would bring it to this board . I have bought a piece of bismuth off the internet from a guy in Canada, and later bought some bismuth discs from him so I could make some myself. Tami
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 10:54:23 GMT -5
Post by sandsman1 on Feb 10, 2005 10:54:23 GMT -5
tami there too cool whats the disc made of it looks like a reg tin slug,, how do you doit i wanna know more my daughter would flip over one of those
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Banjocreek
fully equipped rock polisher
Member since March 2003
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 14:25:32 GMT -5
Post by Banjocreek on Feb 10, 2005 14:25:32 GMT -5
Hardness of 2-2.5 Mostly seen at rock shows in the form of 'Hopper' crystals. I think that disc gets put on a tinfoil hat and with your finger placed into an unstable solution of ...oh never mind. I'm done.
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 14:37:34 GMT -5
Post by Tweetiepy on Feb 10, 2005 14:37:34 GMT -5
I'll plead ignorance as to what it is, but it would make an amazing pin or even a pair of earrings if it isn't toxic - it's awesome! I LIKE IT! I LIKE IT!
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stefan
Cave Dweller
Member since January 2005
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 14:39:54 GMT -5
Post by stefan on Feb 10, 2005 14:39:54 GMT -5
Hey those crystals look just like those state quarters- how cool is that I see those at the shows all the time- Pretty cool that you can Grow your own!
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 15:28:05 GMT -5
Post by creativeminded on Feb 10, 2005 15:28:05 GMT -5
The disk is solid bismuth, it is heavier than it looks, it is like gold, very dense, but has a very low melting point. 21 disk equal 2 pounds of bismuth. Crystal Growing Process Each bismuth crystal is grown in a Graphite Crucible which sits on the top of a hotplate. Bismuth is put into the crucible then it is melted. Once molten, a steel rod is suspended into the surface of the bismuth. The hot plate is then turned down causing the bismuth to freeze around the rod. The crystal starts to grow down into the molten bismuth. By monitoring the growth of the crystal the size can be determined. Once predicted size has been reached, the rod is removed with the crystal on the end. While being removed, the crystal oxidizes to get it's colors. The process takes about 45 minutes. This website, gives a little about what bismuth is and what it is used for. pearl1.lanl.gov/periodic/elements/83.htmlMy book says that the Main sources are in Austrailia, Bolivia, Canada, Czech Republic, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Norway, Peru, California, Colorado, Connecticut, and South Dakota. "Bismuth is relatively abundant in the Earth, with about 200 parts per million of the crust made up of this metal. Most of it occurs in various oxide, sulfide, or carbonate compounds, but it may also occur in its native state, uncombined with any other elements. Bismuth is a dense metal with a specific gravity of 9.7 to 9.8. It also has a lower melting point --520 degrees F (271 degrees C)--than any other metal except mercury. Bismuth is one of only two chemical elements that expand onfreezing, the other being gallium. As a result bismuth is useful for detailed die-casting and may be used as an intermediate product in the manufacture of acrylic fiber, paints and plastics. Much of this elemeint if sound in association with lead, which is poisonous to humans. However, bismuth that has been formed in lead-free environments may be used to make iridescent lipstick, mascara, and nail polish. If you hold a magnet against a piece of bismuth, the metal will pull in the opposite direct. This unusal property is known as diamagnetism." This all came out of my book"ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ROCKS, MINERALS, AND GEMSTONES. Tami
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 16:01:53 GMT -5
Post by Cher on Feb 10, 2005 16:01:53 GMT -5
Hey those crystals are really cool. Can't wait to see what you do with them.
Cher
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 17:08:00 GMT -5
Post by creativeminded on Feb 10, 2005 17:08:00 GMT -5
If the crystals are too big then all they can be is pretty decerations because they are too heavy, smaller crystals can be made into pendants. The crystal in the picture looks like it would make a beautiful necklace, but believe me it is heavy, probably the equivalent of 1 or 2 of the disks. Tami
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Bismuth
Feb 10, 2005 17:29:43 GMT -5
Post by sandsman1 on Feb 10, 2005 17:29:43 GMT -5
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Bismuth
Feb 11, 2005 8:23:04 GMT -5
Post by creativeminded on Feb 11, 2005 8:23:04 GMT -5
Unfortunatly I didn't make that crystal, I bought that one. I will hopefully get a chance to make some this spring. I want to do it outside just incase there are any fumes. Tami
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rollingstone
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Bismuth
Feb 11, 2005 11:28:51 GMT -5
Post by rollingstone on Feb 11, 2005 11:28:51 GMT -5
This is a really cool thread. I followed up on things, looking at sources, instructions etc, and ended up deciding that it probably wasn't something I would actually do, but it made a wonderful diversion. Thanks.
PS, the cheapest bismuth source I saw was small pellets sold in gun shops as a lead substitute for people who make their own bullets (bismuth is almost as heavy as lead, without the toxicity issues). There you could get a 7 lb container of pellets for under $100. Problem with those was it was only 97% pure, so the crystals that could be grown from it tended to be small and without much colour. Reagent grade gives the best crystals, but is really expensive.
Fun.
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Bismuth
Feb 12, 2005 8:48:10 GMT -5
Post by creativeminded on Feb 12, 2005 8:48:10 GMT -5
Tell me about it with shipping and cost I paid $41.00 for the disks. Tami
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