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Post by fernwood on Jun 12, 2019 7:04:40 GMT -5
Posting photos after each step I take to reduce photo sizes for posting. Some of the files are huge. My Iphone SE will not allow for any photo quality changes to the default settings. The camera will not focus on a close subject, unless the flash is on. My Cloudinary settings are what was recommended. Picked an unedited random photo that was downloaded from phone to computer. Then opened in Photoshop Elements so I could see the size settings. Size is 56” by 42” or 4032 by 3024 pixels. 72 DPI. 34.9 MB. Here is what it looks like prior to any changes.  Now cropped. 2741 by 2021 pixels. 38” by 28”. Still 72 DPI.  After unsharp mask 116% Radius 72.8 pixels. Threshold 133 levels.  Took quality up to 200 DPI. Now 7614 by 5614 pixels.  Changed size to 3 by 2.21” Pixel Dimensions are now 600 by 442. File size is 777 k Did unsharp mask with the same settings as above.  On computer screen photo is in fairly sharp focus now, at least the rock is. There is some pixelization (is that a word?), due to changing the initial size. When posted here, it appears blurry, as do most of my rock photos taken inside. The first cropped photo looks better here than after all of the resizing. On my computer screen, it is very blurry. Edit time was about 7 minutes. Is there a way to just crop photos as needed and then have Cloudinary adjust the size automatically for best viewing? Has anyone found a fix for these problems? I don;t like to go through all the work to edit a photo only to have it show up here blurry. Thanks |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 15, 2019 7:26:20 GMT -5
What program are you using? Most of them will you you crop dimensions and dpi in one process. I think you are losing quality going from 72 dpi to anything higher.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jun 15, 2019 8:46:23 GMT -5
I think Tela is right, Beth. Since your Iphone will only take pictures in 72 dpi, when you increase the dpi, you are asking the software to add pixels where there are none. I think that will definitely cause blurriness.
I know there is a setting in Cloudinary that Tommy recommended to be set to reduce the size of the photos. Here's a clip from the instructions:
VERY IMPORTANT! The next step is highly recommended for everyone, especially if your camera or cell phone is set to take large high resolution photos. Please go in now and set your "Incoming Transformations" to reduce the size of images being stored on Cloudinary. Failure to do so will result in massive digital camera sized photos being stored on Cloudinary and served into your posts potentially thousands of times. From personal experience, this will result in rapid depletion of your allotted bandwidth. If you have already exited the program and are coming back in to edit your "Incoming Transformations," the steps to reach this point of the tutorial from the Cloudinary dashboard are: click the gear icon in the upper right, then click upload tab and scroll down to 'Upload Presets" and click 'Edit' Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/page/using-cloudinary#ixzz5qvNIDnNu |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 15, 2019 11:12:32 GMT -5
What program are you using? Most of them will you you crop dimensions and dpi in one process. I think you are losing quality going from 72 dpi to anything higher. PSE 2.0. I have the disk for a more recent PSE version, but it not compatible with my laptop. If I leave them at 72 DPI and the 50 something by 40 something inches, they are like over 10 MB in size when uploaded to Cluodinary. They are also very blurry on Facebook. If I crop, adjust size (pixels) and use unsharp mask in one process, they are so pixel filled and very blurry on my computer. Tried loading then to Flickr, and they are very bad there as well. When using Flickr to upload photos to RTH, I use the Medium quality setting. My laptop is a very outdated, 2017 model, with all upgrades. I do weekly maintenance on it. Have cleared all nonessential junk that was prelaoded on computer. . How did the series of photos I posted look? Was the first one not blurry? If so, I can just adjust my way of thinking and post what looks like a blurry photo to me. I am concerned about the 10 MB size, as I will soon be out of Cloudinary storage. Thanks. |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 15, 2019 11:13:19 GMT -5
I think Tela is right, Beth. Since your Iphone will only take pictures in 72 dpi, when you increase the dpi, you are asking the software to add pixels where there are none. I think that will definitely cause blurriness.
I know there is a setting in Cloudinary that Tommy recommended to be set to reduce the size of the photos. Here's a clip from the instructions:
VERY IMPORTANT! The next step is highly recommended for everyone, especially if your camera or cell phone is set to take large high resolution photos. Please go in now and set your "Incoming Transformations" to reduce the size of images being stored on Cloudinary. Failure to do so will result in massive digital camera sized photos being stored on Cloudinary and served into your posts potentially thousands of times. From personal experience, this will result in rapid depletion of your allotted bandwidth. If you have already exited the program and are coming back in to edit your "Incoming Transformations," the steps to reach this point of the tutorial from the Cloudinary dashboard are: click the gear icon in the upper right, then click upload tab and scroll down to 'Upload Presets" and click 'Edit' Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/page/using-cloudinary#ixzz5qvNIDnNuDid that. |
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Post by aDave on Jun 15, 2019 11:54:35 GMT -5
You might just consider doing a crop of the image and then resize to a set pixel size like 1024x768 (or something like that). You could perhaps go a bit smaller since you're only viewing your images digitally. If you were concerned about printing an image, that's where you'd want to save them as large as possible in the event you wanted to print on large paper. Again, since you're just dealing with digital images, there's no need to touch DPI. With just the crop and resize, I think you'll find your images to be a much smaller file size. I am not a Photoshop user, so take this with a grain of salt. I saw your unsharp mask settings and did a bit of looking on the internet, as I'm not familiar with it. I found this vid that you might want to look at: helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/atv/cs6-tutorials/sharpening-an-image-with-unsharp-mask.htmlBased on the video, it would appear that your settings are excessively high, and the radius and threshold settings that you're using might actually be canceling each other out - if I'm understanding correctly how they're used. Heck, they might even be adding to your blurriness issues, but I can't say for sure. I would just stick to crop and resize and maybe do some lighting correction if needed. You'll cut down on editing time, and you'll end up with smaller files. |
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Post by saxplayer on Jun 15, 2019 15:50:08 GMT -5
Going to do a quick test to see if I set this up correctly:  |
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Post by saxplayer on Jun 15, 2019 15:50:45 GMT -5
Sweet. This is so much better than all the copying / pasting from FlickR. Thanks so much Tommy and anyone else who was responsible  |
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Post by Tommy on Jun 15, 2019 16:24:31 GMT -5
Sweet. This is so much better than all the copying / pasting from FlickR. Thanks so much Tommy and anyone else who was responsible  |
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Post by Tommy on Jun 16, 2019 11:37:27 GMT -5
fernwood I'm not sure if this is applicable or even helpful but here's what I do. On Cloudinary my incoming transformation is set to 800 x 600. Often when I post photos this setting still looks too large for me so I tweak the actual display size in the following way. Using the full editor (not Quick Reply) I upload my images to Cloudinary. This is the image as uploaded with no additional tweaks.  After the image code is placed in my post I click on the "preview" tab and then back to the "BBCode" tab which adds a CSS attribute "max-width:100%" in the image code. I then play with the % amount until I like how it looks. Typically I just use 40%. So this: [img alt=" " src="http://res.cloudinary.com/...../wdfu3oawlq1v15l7qufe.jpg" style="max-width:100%;"]Is changed to this: [img alt=" " src="http://res.cloudinary.com/...../wdfu3oawlq1v15l7qufe.jpg" style="max-width:40%;"]Here is a look at the results of playing with the max-width attribute. All of these are the exact same photo above served from Cloudinary. max-width:50% max-width:40% max-width:30% max-width:20% max-width:10%
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Post by fernwood on Jun 17, 2019 5:35:50 GMT -5
Tommy Thanks. I will try doing that.
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Post by fernwood on Jun 19, 2019 6:46:22 GMT -5
TommyI went into one post and reduced the % from 100 to 40 on all photos. They seem to look OK. Received a message that I was almost to monthly photo bandwidth usage, so had to do something. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jun 19, 2019 8:18:42 GMT -5
It is free and easy to use. I send all my photos to upload through it set at 600 x 800 pixels. It's amazing how much it can reduce the size. I set the program to save the resized pics in a folder that I name "small" in folder the large pictures are. Try it and see if it helps you out at all.
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Post by Tommy on Jun 19, 2019 10:09:44 GMT -5
TommyI went into one post and reduced the % from 100 to 40 on all photos. They seem to look OK. Received a message that I was almost to monthly photo bandwidth usage, so had to do something. Thanks for the suggestion. Hi Beth, the suggestions I had were only to do with viewing on the board. If you're having bandwidth issues that's something entirely different. When a photo is uploaded to Cloudinary at a certain size they will serve it at that size regardless of the percentage your browser is viewing it. In other words, my view percentage trick will not help you with bandwidth. You will need to either crop/resize photos before uploading them, or set your "incoming transformations" on Cloudinary as low as possible so that the photos are served out (bandwidth) at the smaller size. Are you uploading videos to Cloudinary? That's how I got in bandwidth trouble early on because they require an enormous amount of bandwidth. |
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Post by fernwood on Jun 19, 2019 10:16:12 GMT -5
Yes. I do some via Cloudinary and some via Flickr. No video.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 19, 2019 10:31:38 GMT -5
To reduce image size, here's a tutorial on the PSE Save for Web feature.
Save For Web After cropping, making color, sharpness and other adjustments, use the save for web feature to reduce image size. I save as a jpeg, 600 X 450 pixels, and they are usually around 100KB or less. I have been doing this for years, to save space on different image hosting sites I have used. Smaller file size means more photos can be uploaded, equaling longer life for account before it gets filled up.
Don't know if PSE 2.0 has this feature. I use PSE 9.0.3. |
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