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Post by TheRock on Sept 13, 2019 0:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by fernwood on Sept 13, 2019 4:00:59 GMT -5
Nice and shiny. Like the shape/pattern.
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Post by orrum on Sept 13, 2019 5:32:58 GMT -5
Now that's a purty rock!
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Sept 13, 2019 5:55:51 GMT -5
Good looking stone. For bloodstone I am usually looking for solid green with just red dots. Yours looks more like what is sold as fancy jasper. The two are often sold as each other and I am no expert. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if anyone has more info on the two. www.amazon.com/Tumbled-Fancy-Jasper-India-Crystals/dp/B01LYWXUHMChuck |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Sept 13, 2019 8:50:05 GMT -5
Really nice job on those. Great polish!
I agree with Drummond Island Rocks regarding the bloodstone. Original bloodstone is that beautiful green with the small red dots in it. Fancy jasper is the multicolored that includes the yellow and orange with generally no red spots. I have noticed lately that there is a "new" name for some -- calling it orbicular bloodstone, which does have orbs in it and is interesting in it's own right. |
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Post by TheRock on Sept 13, 2019 10:42:28 GMT -5
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Post by fernwood on Sept 13, 2019 10:49:28 GMT -5
Nice belt buckles. Now get some sleep!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 6:29:52 GMT -5
Beautiful
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Post by julieooly on Sept 14, 2019 8:22:22 GMT -5
Great job on the cabs.
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Post by TheRock on Sept 16, 2019 17:11:15 GMT -5
Good looking stone. For bloodstone I am usually looking for solid green with just red dots. Yours looks more like what is sold as fancy jasper. The two are often sold as each other and I am no expert. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if anyone has more info on the two. www.amazon.com/Tumbled-Fancy-Jasper-India-Crystals/dp/B01LYWXUHMChuck When It comes to Stone Identification If I find something Like this BLOODSTONE I found I will do a GOOGLE SEARCH FOR BLOODSTONE and see what I come up with, Looks like the link shows it both ways small red specks and Large Veins running through it.  I haven't a Clue? |
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Post by rockjunquie on Sept 16, 2019 19:45:33 GMT -5
It is possible that fancy jasper is technically a bloodstone in that it is a chalcedony from India. However, true bloodstone, which is the dark green with red splotches, is the original, famous, popular and hard to come by boodstone that fancy jasper sellers are trying to capitalize on by calling theirs bloodstone. The multi colored ones are not true bloodstone whether someone calls it that or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 21:56:45 GMT -5
While I agree that splotches of red are absolutely necessary before we can call it "Bloodstone," it doesn't have to be only green and red. Bloodstone/heliotrope was imported into Europe from various locations as early as classical Greek times (probably from Cyprus and Bulgaria's Eastern Rhodope Mts), and often contained other colors. The demand in Roman times was great, and eventually it was thought to come from "Babylon" (in other words, it was being sourced from India). It could/can have some minor colors in addition to the red and green, such as the ochre-yellow in this Byzantine piece now in the Metropolitan Museum (public domain image): Though I've seen ancient Bloodstone with more colors (as well as white and lighter shades of green-blue and red), the dark green-blue with red was very favored in the medieval West, and that's usually what I think of, too. I've also seen chunks of Indian "Fancy Jasper" that were mostly dark green + red spots (i.e., absolutely Bloodstone jasper), attached to other areas that are more what we think of as "Fancy Jasper" - so I'm certain that both are coming from the same quarries, and probably the same ones in Gujarat as have been worked for over 2 millennia. Lots of sources these days besides India these days, even of stuff that looks exactly like the Indian material. Although I'd also call the OP's piece "Fancy Jasper," I wouldn't argue against it being "Bloodstone" either. It's a pretty piece of jasper, colored by iron, either way. |
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Post by TheRock on Sept 17, 2019 6:55:12 GMT -5
While I agree that splotches of red are absolutely necessary before we can call it "Bloodstone," it doesn't have to be only green and red. Bloodstone/heliotrope was imported into Europe from various locations as early as classical Greek times (probably from Cyprus and Bulgaria's Eastern Rhodope Mts), and often contained other colors. The demand in Roman times was great, and eventually it was thought to come from "Babylon" (in other words, it was being sourced from India). It could/can have some minor colors in addition to the red and green, such as the ochre-yellow in this Byzantine piece now in the Metropolitan Museum (public domain image): Though I've seen ancient Bloodstone with more colors (as well as white and lighter shades of green-blue and red), the dark green-blue with red was very favored in the medieval West, and that's usually what I think of, too. I've also seen chunks of Indian "Fancy Jasper" that were mostly dark green + red spots (i.e., absolutely Bloodstone jasper), attached to other areas that are more what we think of as "Fancy Jasper" - so I'm certain that both are coming from the same quarries, and probably the same ones in Gujarat as have been worked for over 2 millennia. Lots of sources these days besides India these days, even of stuff that looks exactly like the Indian material. Although I'd also call the OP's piece "Fancy Jasper," I wouldn't argue against it being "Bloodstone" either. It's a pretty piece of jasper, colored by iron, either way. Well looks like that Ancient Cab has plenty of Red Veins running through it. I am no expert that's why I am here to ask questions and learn, and I have learned plenty already  There is no wrong answer here. So keep teaching me! Thanks |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 7:22:11 GMT -5
That ancient cab is so cool....
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Post by TheRock on Sept 19, 2019 1:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by miket on Sept 19, 2019 9:42:47 GMT -5
Excellent work, as always!
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Post by TheRock on Sept 19, 2019 10:51:20 GMT -5
Thanks, I feel like I am making some headway. I have timed my self and I can do a cab depending on the size in 30 to 45 min. I'm thinking not too shabby for a rookie.
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I did this awhile ago I got two Tiger Eye Stones damn near done and they Chipped Ive been up all night gotta get to bed have my friends Wake I hafta go to at 6:00 pm. 
I haven't a Clue?
