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Post by Alice on Apr 4, 2005 13:48:20 GMT -5
Here's an interesting one. These rocks are found along the river bank where I live. I've tried taking a hammer to this rock, but got nowhere (maybe I'm just weak) I found a broken piece along the bank, and finally can see what the inside looks like. Any ideas? Would probably be an interesting Cab piece. (First picture doesn't show "true" colors). Detail of what it looks like on the outside
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Post by gaetzchamp on Apr 4, 2005 14:29:42 GMT -5
Is this some type of conglomerate? It's kinda neat. Have you tried taking a chisel to it to break it w/.
Gaeter
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Post by Alice on Apr 4, 2005 14:48:07 GMT -5
It looks to be 2 types of rock. One being crystal (possibly quartz?) and the other...? I have no clue.
the crystal seems to be holding the entire rock together.
No, I haven't tried a chisel... only a hammer. Guess it wouldn't hurt to try (Some other day though, when my neighbors aren't home)
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SilverFoxx
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Post by SilverFoxx on Apr 4, 2005 15:36:06 GMT -5
Hey Alice That looks like plan ol' everyday granite to me. But it's a neat looking piece of granite. It'll probably shine up real nice. SilverFoxx
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rollingstone
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Post by rollingstone on Apr 4, 2005 16:32:53 GMT -5
I second the vote for granite. Very coarse grained too. The white/clear grains are quartz, the pink ones are orthoclase (a feldspar). Should probably also be some dark/shiny biotite mica in there too, but I can't tell from the pic. If there is noticeale mica in it, that might cause problems for tumbling, particulary in a coarse-grained granite, since the mica tends to "flake" away. Otherwise, could tumble up nicely. Orthoclase is 6 on Mohs hardness scale, and quartz is 7, but I think that shouldn't be a serious problem for tumbling.
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Post by Cher on Apr 4, 2005 17:32:57 GMT -5
I'd have to say granite too. I've got stuff around here that looks the same ... kind of a pink colors. You'd think it would polish good but I haven't been able to get any of ours to polish. Seems like it's really not held together too good, wants to chip little pieces out while it's tumbling. Cher
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Post by Alice on Apr 4, 2005 17:36:46 GMT -5
Thanks rollingstone and Silverfoxx and Cher for letting me know at least one of the types of rocks we have here in the river. I should post up some other ones to see if anyone can identify them.
I haven't been able to to smash this rock with a hammer. Not even the smaller one (where you can see the insides).
From the small piece. I see no Micra at all. What you see in the picture, is exactly what I see physically. It may be different in the core though.
I'll keep trying to smash them to make them suitable size for tumbling. wish me luck Alice
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James
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Post by James on Apr 4, 2005 18:00:25 GMT -5
It's coarse granite.
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Post by cookie3rocks on Apr 4, 2005 18:49:37 GMT -5
So sayith James. So let it be written. Really. ;D It is some cool looking granite, I must say. I'd like to see what that does.
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kd7cot
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Post by kd7cot on Apr 4, 2005 20:07:24 GMT -5
As hard to break as that piece of granite is it should tumble nicely - though as James says it's coarse so you may not get a totally smooth surface tumbling unless you use a long time in the first stage. They polish granites all the time for buildings - it polishes flat great! .02 cents from a 'new member' Jeff
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Post by sandsman1 on Apr 4, 2005 22:50:40 GMT -5
that is a pretty cool rock alice i seen ron (michiganrocks) post some of that befor i bet he tumbled some too you should ask him about it or maybe go to his web site and see if he posted a pic ---but i bet if it stays together it will grind flat and look good just let it go long in 60/90---------- heres his site iavbbs.com/nichols/index.html
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joanna
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Post by joanna on Apr 5, 2005 4:35:11 GMT -5
We have loads of granite in our area. Probably our main rock (other than sandstone). My husband is always picking it for me, I don't want to discourage his rock picking efforts, so I sneak it out to the rock/flower beds when he isn't looking. It's not bad to tumble as long as it doesn't have the mica in it. Of course, those tend to be his favorites, likes those pretty shinny flecks.
If it has a lot of shinny mica flakes don't bother trying to tumble it. The tiny pieces even flake out in the later stages. I really don't see the mica from your photo though, so it will probably be fine to tumble.
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Post by Alice on Apr 5, 2005 6:50:08 GMT -5
I guess I always pictured granite as being black, because of all the counter tops I've seen. Guess they come in all sorts of colors.
Thanks everyone for your input.
The first rock is much too big to tumble in my 3 pound barrel. It won't even fit through the mouth. The smaller one fits, but seems a lot bigger then what I'm used to tumbling. It's about (without using a ruler) 2" X 3" X 1" thick.
Thanks Sands for Ron's link, I'll take a peek later on today.
I'll post up some more of out river rock when I have the time
Tweetie, you should come over to Ile Perrot with the kids, to go rock picking. We'd have a field day.
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Post by creativeminded on Apr 5, 2005 8:20:34 GMT -5
Looks like some of the rocks I find here in KS. It polishes up well. Tami
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Post by connrock on Apr 5, 2005 20:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by Alice on Apr 5, 2005 23:36:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the link conrock
My granite rock looks like the one in the 2nd picture, only without the black.
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SilverFoxx
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Post by SilverFoxx on Apr 6, 2005 11:07:30 GMT -5
Hey Alice You said you're having trouble breaking the rock with a hammer. Well, you know the old saying, use a bigger hammer. I use a regular nailing hammer and chisle to break stones that have cracks and fissures by placing the chisle on a seam.
Sometimes you have to kick it up a notch when the rock gets tough. Then I use a 3-pound hammer. I cover the rock with an old T-shirt and sock it with the heavy dude. It breaks the rock but you get a lot of slivered pieces. That's when I think it might be better to cut the rock with a saw into managable pieces that would tumble better than the slivers that I get after whamming with the 3-pounder. SilverFoxx.
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Post by Alice on Apr 7, 2005 10:31:20 GMT -5
Silverfoxx That's what I've tried hitting the rock with... a regular hammer used for nails. I don't have anything bigger I want to keep this hobby as inexpensive as possible. I'll just pick smaller rocks from the river, or buy pre-smashed rocks Thanks for the advise though
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