julieooly
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Post by julieooly on Dec 9, 2019 18:56:40 GMT -5
Alright, so what do we use to determine if a cab is thin? Is it the thickness relative to the overall length and width OR is it just its thickness no matter what the other measurements are?
Example. If you have a 20mm cab that is 3mm thick and a 40mm cab that is 3mm thick, is the 40mm cab "thinner"? Does this make sense? Cause it sounds like a dumb question, but the 40mm cab is relatively thinner than the 20mm cab is although they measure the same @ 3mm.
OR- are all cabs under a certain measurement "thin" because the size of the wire or bezel height the jeweler will use to make a piece?
OR - like so much else, it it an opinion?
In my shop I have all my natural stone cabs separated into sections Small, Medium & Large (with the ranges listed in mm's) and I'm considering making more sections like Small - Thin, Medium - Thin, Large - Thin (with the thickness measurement noted) like this - Stone - Small <30mm & Thin <4mm Then the main section for that size simply being Stone - Small <30mm . The goal is to make the shop easier to navigate, without confusing the customers.
All opinions are welcome!! Would the jewelry sections of the forum be a better place to ask?
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 9, 2019 19:17:34 GMT -5
Julie, Julie, Julie.... you are waaaaay over thinking this. I almost chuckled when you said "The goal is to make the shop easier to navigate, without confusing the customers." I was confused just reading this. Thin is indeed relative, but most cabs are not. I like to note in an ad when a cab is thin, but I always list all measurements, too. When you see a thin cab, you know it. It is a bit subjective. I don't think your new categories would be very helpful- just confusing. Keep in mind, flat top cabs - cabs with very little dome- may be considered thin, but they are not really thin, they just have a low dome. So, don't shoot yourself in the foot by calling something thin when it is just a low dome cab. HOWEVER- the girdle height would make the difference and I think that's what you are really talking about. Shoot for a 3ish to 4 mm girdle and you'll be fine. Anything smaller should be noted. And to further muddy the water- most wrappers like a thinner girdle and silversmiths like it a little thicker. So, I aim for 3ish which should make both parties happy.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Dec 9, 2019 19:20:56 GMT -5
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julieooly
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Post by julieooly on Dec 9, 2019 20:03:22 GMT -5
Julie, Julie, Julie.... you are waaaaay over thinking this. I almost chuckled when you said "The goal is to make the shop easier to navigate, without confusing the customers." I was confused just reading this. Thin is indeed relative, but most cabs are not. I like to note in an ad when a cab is thin, but I always list all measurements, too. When you see a thin cab, you know it. It is a bit subjective. I don't think your new categories would be very helpful- just confusing. Keep in mind, flat top cabs - cabs with very little dome- may be considered thin, but they are not really thin, they just have a low dome. So, don't shoot yourself in the foot by calling something thin when it is just a low dome cab. HOWEVER- the girdle height would make the difference and I think that's what you are really talking about. Shoot for a 3ish to 4 mm girdle and you'll be fine. Anything smaller should be noted. And to further muddy the water- most wrappers like a thinner girdle and silversmiths like it a little thicker. So, I aim for 3ish which should make both parties happy. I knew you'd have something to say, but I knew there was also a technical answer! as soon as I walked away I considered just simply calling the categories something like Small <30mm <5mm and Small <30mm +5mm. Without using the word "thin" description. I am set on sticking with the Small, Medium & Large though, I like them! And, yes, I do note all the measurements in the listings. I did get the answer though, "thin" is relative to the length and width. I need to learn to make jewelry, that will fix most of my problems. maybe.....
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Post by stardiamond on Dec 13, 2019 19:06:40 GMT -5
A cab should be as thick as it can be and that is dictated by the thickness of the slab, the depth of what is being framed and defects that need to be ground away. I use the descriptor of thin when a cab is thinner than most. I list with the thickness and the height of the dome; low, medium and high.
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Post by opalpyrexia on Dec 13, 2019 22:49:34 GMT -5
Similar to stardiamond, I include cab measurements (H x W x D) where H = longest dimension. Other than the D measurement, I don't say anything about the dome unless I consider it to be higher or lower than what is generally typical given H and W measurements. In those cases I will state it as being "high dome" or "low dome" simply because some people can't visualize the dimensions.
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Post by stardiamond on Dec 13, 2019 23:01:19 GMT -5
Photos can give an inaccurate appearance of a cab. I've only had one return and it was when I first started listing. I was taking pictures on a cab stand and the cab appeared to have a higher dome than actual. I provided measurements but pictures carry more weight than a description. I do 3 pictures now, measurements and state the dome type.
Standard slabs are 1/4 and 3/16 inches. I consider 1/8 inch thin. I would consider 3mm thin.
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adrian65
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Post by adrian65 on Dec 13, 2019 23:59:48 GMT -5
If you have a 30 mm cab and a 40 mm cab and both are 3 mm thick, then none of them is thinner than the other. But the bigger one is more slender or more slim. You can also say it has a very flat dome. Anyway, 3 mm is thin no matter the size of the cab I'd say.
If you are concerned about the exact description of the cab on your site, mention its three dimensions, as stated here before and also add another picture from a half side angle, which would tell more than a front picture about the slenderness of the cab.
Adrian
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