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Post by sandsman1 on May 2, 2005 21:16:20 GMT -5
ok thanks to a good friend of mine i got two new rocks to play with today and i started this piece of webbed turq. and im haveing a prob with polishing it so any help will be great. this pic is done and polished and it still has scratches showing more then after 1200 diamond belt it seems like the polish and leather pad put back some lines in the stone take a look  so then i went back to the 1200 diamond belt and stoped there ,, it still has some scratches showin but it looks better then after the polish run before,, take alook  what im wondering since iv never done any turq before is would it be better to get say a 3000 diamond belt and just use that for polish on turq. and stop there?? |
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Post by rockyraccoon on May 2, 2005 21:24:34 GMT -5
my mouth is not only wide open but drool is spilling out everywhere  . are you going to sell that one after you figure out the secrets? i'll buy it if your selling it! that is BEAUTIFUL sands!! kim |
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Post by sandsman1 on May 2, 2005 21:36:48 GMT -5
hey kim if i let it go you got first dibs -- i wqanted to make something nice for chic i think she would like this stuff it kinda looks alittle spooky with the webs hahaha ,, but anyway i have about enuff rock for around three more cabojohns so im sure ill have something you will like when i get it all fig out
wait till you see the other stuff i think its called azurite but its man made i think but very cool also-- ill start one in a few and post a pic im waitin for the pain killer to hit so i can sit at the grinder the first one killed my back cause i didnt wanna stop i wanted to see it finished
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Post by Cher on May 2, 2005 21:44:21 GMT -5
Oooo can I be second in line? Maybe we could work a deal out ... That's gorgeous but I'm sorry I can't help you with your questions John, I have no idea what you could do.
Cher
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Post by docone31 on May 2, 2005 22:23:34 GMT -5
Sands, turquoise is me. I reccomend, Zam! and a solid felt wheel at high speed. Turquoise, and malachite both respond real well with Zam! Tripoli also works as long it is the bar kind.
I use either chamioise wheel, or hard felt for polishing it.
That is a good looking piece of turquoise. It will not polish like an agate though. The material flows with the leather buff.
Hard felt wheel.
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Post by gaetzchamp on May 2, 2005 22:39:44 GMT -5
Sands-
That is one killer piece of rock. Extremely unique and memorable.
Thanks for posting.....
Gaeter
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Post by sandsman1 on May 2, 2005 22:54:54 GMT -5
hey gaetz you should get those cabs tomorrow cause tony told me today his showed up and i mailed them at the same time so maybe tomorrow ---and banjo got his box today also
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Post by creativeminded on May 2, 2005 23:00:31 GMT -5
Those are beautiful pieces of Turquiose.
Suggestion on the polish, have you thought about using car buffing compound. My dad got me some, but I haven't had a chance to use it yet.
Tami
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Post by sandsman1 on May 2, 2005 23:09:17 GMT -5
hey doc thanks for the info im gonna look around for some of that zam is there more then one kind? i was just talkin to banjo he said the same thing about the zam i have a white felt type wheel mounted on a wood disc and its new for the flat lap ya think that will be ok
and how do i put it on you said its in like a stick do i just let it roll on wile the lap is runnin??
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Post by sandsman1 on May 2, 2005 23:27:02 GMT -5
hey doc what size is best the stuff i found comes in a 1/4 lb- 1 lb -2lb its cheap enuff but whats easyer to apply size wise??--- i have no idea what im doin with this stuff so im thinkin as cheap as it is ill grab a two lb chunk
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Post by rockyraccoon on May 3, 2005 0:04:19 GMT -5
what is zam? that sounds like some kind of cleaner.
i'm gonna have to quit looking in here sands that stone is mesmerizing. dang you do make a stone sing!
kim
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Post by sandsman1 on May 3, 2005 0:44:36 GMT -5
thanks kim and everyone remember thats my first try at turq so it can only get better hahaha---im gettin alot of first the last couple weeks tonys jade was the first jade i ever shaped too and he liked them so same deal they can only get better
as i just read its a polish for soft stones and it works well on turq,malicite,azurite so i just got to get the hang of it
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Post by docone31 on May 3, 2005 8:55:46 GMT -5
Sands. If you get the 1 1/2lb stick, you will have enough for a lifetime of turquoise, and beginning silversmithing.
The Zam! is held against the buff while it is spinning. It puts a layer on the buff. As you polish it goes away, and you add more. You can also polish gold, and silver along with the turquoise.
Zam! is good stuff. Fabulustre is good also, but I like Zam! better.
I find it works better with an hard felt, or chamoise wheel, than soft and fluffy polishing wheels. The yellow muslim wheels also work well.
For a 6" buffer, get 4" wheels, for an 8" buffer, get 6" wheels. In other words, go with a smaller wheel with Zam!
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Post by sandsman1 on May 3, 2005 11:45:57 GMT -5
doc i was lookin at those hard wheels and i couldnt fig how they would go on a grinder, i didnt see a hole in the center and they didnt look like the where mounted with a treaded end to spin on the arbor so i didnt order one,, how do they work?
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Post by docone31 on May 3, 2005 12:00:52 GMT -5
They all have an hole. Get the one with the hole that matches the arbor on your grinder. Either that, or you are looking at something else. Pop a picture this way.
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Post by sandsman1 on May 3, 2005 12:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by docone31 on May 3, 2005 12:26:01 GMT -5
Yeah brudda, those will work. You might have to drill out the hole to your size, but they give you a center.
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Banjocreek
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Post by Banjocreek on May 3, 2005 16:44:28 GMT -5
I just use my 'Sears' grinder with a 5" cloth buffing pad for the ZAM.
I have a sleeved attachment on the arbor with set screw and it sort of looks like a big wood screw. So actually the more pressure you put on the wheel, the tighter it gets on the shaft. I just apply a little ZAM to the spinning pad (it's kinda like wax in a stick) and them buff out the piece.
And man can that thing sail when the buffing pad grabs it!! ;D
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Post by sandsman1 on May 3, 2005 17:20:10 GMT -5
hahaha i know what ya mean banjo i cant count how many finished cabs my leather belt has grabed and slamed into the tray and broke,, but a week or so ago i said i gotta do something about this and i cut a piece of rubber sheet and slide a nice piece in the tray under the polish wheel and it has allready saved about three cabs if anyone is useing a grinder you should try this cause it works its just enuff cushion to stop them from breaking on the metal tray,, ill take a pic later and show ya what i mean
i have a felt pad on a flat lap wheel allready im gonna try that first befor i go and buy another one in case it works fine
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Banjocreek
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Post by Banjocreek on May 4, 2005 13:35:18 GMT -5
That should work.
Good luck.
I'm sure you'll show us the result once the ZAM shows up.
-Banjo
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. are you going to sell that one after you figure out the secrets? i'll buy it if your selling it! that is BEAUTIFUL sands!!
