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Post by RocksInNJ on Mar 4, 2020 23:49:05 GMT -5
How did you learn what the Brazil saw shops use?? Evan, he is a world traveler. Not just a suthe'n boy from Georgia. He is more sophisticated and worldly than most people know. (Don't tell anyone, he takes great pains to keep it on the down low, lol.) He’s the real alien around here and I’m just the patsy in a government coverup. |
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Post by roy on Mar 5, 2020 12:53:17 GMT -5
i have been using antifreeze for a month now in my 16" saws going to try the 18" later today so far im liking it the one draw back is the blade needs dressed after 40 cuts or so but i can handle that because clean up on slabs are awesome compaired to that nasty oil also cleaning out the saw is a cinch just drain and wash out !!!! Do you have any problems with rusting? At this point I'm thinking about getting some and if it doesn't steam maybe add a slight amount of mineral oil... or would dish soap be better? you cant have rust with straight anti-freeze |
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Post by roy on Mar 5, 2020 12:58:40 GMT -5
How did you learn what the Brazil saw shops use?? Evan, he is a world traveler. Not just a suthe'n boy from Georgia. He is more sophisticated and worldly than most people know. (Don't tell anyone, he takes great pains to keep it on the down low, lol.)  |
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 5, 2020 14:41:31 GMT -5
Do you have any problems with rusting? At this point I'm thinking about getting some and if it doesn't steam maybe add a slight amount of mineral oil... or would dish soap be better? you cant have rust with straight anti-freeze To myg knowledge the rv antifreeze is water based mixed already? Thus I wonder about rust as it's different then auto stuff. That's my largest concern |
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Post by EricD on Mar 5, 2020 15:04:10 GMT -5
you cant have rust with straight anti-freeze To myg knowledge the rv antifreeze is water based mixed already? Thus I wonder about rust as it's different then auto stuff. That's my largest concern It's mainly water with methyl alcohol in it. It's also labeled as being flammable. I would be looking for my blade to rust if I were using it.
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 5, 2020 15:17:00 GMT -5
To myg knowledge the rv antifreeze is water based mixed already? Thus I wonder about rust as it's different then auto stuff. That's my largest concern It's mainly water with methyl alcohol in it. It's also labeled as being flammable. I would be looking for my blade to rust if I were using it.
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Yes that's my concern, I've heard folks use it a bit. Maybe adding more mineral oil to the saw would make it steam less? |
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Post by EricD on Mar 5, 2020 15:39:40 GMT -5
Definitely the cooler the cut and blade, the less steam you would get. More oil would get you that lower temperature cut. However, oil mist would increase I'm sure.
I'm not really sure where you're getting steam from. Oil burns and smokes, water steams.
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 5, 2020 15:51:32 GMT -5
Definitely the cooler the cut and blade, the less steam you would get. More oil would get you that lower temperature cut. However, oil mist would increase I'm sure. I'm not really sure where you're getting steam from. Oil burns and smokes, water steams. I suspect it's just a ton of mist that acts like steam. Granted my 24 inch doesn't mist at all |
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Post by EricD on Mar 5, 2020 15:57:30 GMT -5
Definitely the cooler the cut and blade, the less steam you would get. More oil would get you that lower temperature cut. However, oil mist would increase I'm sure. I'm not really sure where you're getting steam from. Oil burns and smokes, water steams. I suspect it's just a ton of mist that acts like steam. Granted my 24 inch doesn't mist at all Is it perhaps running at a higher RPM? Any way you could slow it down and see if it works better? Maybe different pulleys? |
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 5, 2020 16:01:27 GMT -5
I suspect it's just a ton of mist that acts like steam. Granted my 24 inch doesn't mist at all Is it perhaps running at a higher RPM? Any way you could slow it down and see if it works better? Maybe different pulleys? It's running at stock rpm. Friends14 inch lortone drop saw does the same. Might trt adding more when i get home |
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Post by EricD on Mar 5, 2020 16:04:15 GMT -5
Is it perhaps running at a higher RPM? Any way you could slow it down and see if it works better? Maybe different pulleys? It's running at stock rpm. Friends14 inch lortone drop saw does the same. Might trt adding more when i get home Ohhh. It's a drop saw that has no hood/cover? From the drop saws I've seen, I would expect to have coolant all over the place |
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 5, 2020 16:48:15 GMT -5
It's running at stock rpm. Friends14 inch lortone drop saw does the same. Might trt adding more when i get home Ohhh. It's a drop saw that has no hood/cover? From the drop saws I've seen, I would expect to have coolant all over the place Both, mine is hooded and steams. Drop saw both steams and sprays |
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Post by Peruano on Mar 6, 2020 10:43:28 GMT -5
When you get excess spray its usually because of too much depth in the lubricant.
When you get excess mist, it often is due to high temperatures (i.e. dull blade, too fast of a feed rate, stone too hard for blade and saw, or too large.) You can use a lot of things but oils are best suited and perhaps the safest of lubricants for large saws.
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 6, 2020 16:21:26 GMT -5
When you get excess spray its usually because of too much depth in the lubricant. When you get excess mist, it often is due to high temperatures (i.e. dull blade, too fast of a feed rate, stone too hard for blade and saw, or too large.) You can use a lot of things but oils are best suited and perhaps the safest of lubricants for large saws. Ok, I'll try to add more fluid in to beter cool it. Even cuting slower then my 24 inch still makes mist so not speed or blade issue. If that doesn't fix it not sure what else could cool |
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Post by NRG on Mar 7, 2020 0:36:12 GMT -5
Bardahl "No Smoke" will stop your misting problem
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Post by glennz01 on Mar 7, 2020 2:45:58 GMT -5
Bardahl "No Smoke" will stop your misting problem Good link? |
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Post by 1dave on Mar 8, 2020 4:13:40 GMT -5
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Post by Peruano on Mar 8, 2020 7:07:37 GMT -5
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Post by Rockoonz on Mar 8, 2020 10:56:45 GMT -5
Bardahl "No Smoke" will stop your misting problem Good link? Any thick oil additive does the same thing, in the snake oil section of the parts store. |
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Post by NRG on Mar 8, 2020 23:59:27 GMT -5
Any thick oil additive does the same thing, in the snake oil section of the parts store. Lee, Bardahl no smoke made my saw go from needing 30 minutes to let the mist settle after a cut to I can open it soon as it's done. I'm with you on snake oil for car people, but this product actually made a difference in my 24" frantom |
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