lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 10, 2021 7:17:27 GMT -5
But if you want the real deal, it will cost you $1,555 at the Love and Life School. This is actually quite a bargain. The website makes clear that you will be receiving courses and materials worth over $6,000! Whooo! Sign me up! Lets see: What do I need to get started?  It says '1 piece of Labradorite' required...Let me check...How about this one?  Hmmm maybe they think it should be a little more polished for better 'energy transferral'? I can do that. Going to lose a bit of mass though. 6.1lbs. down to 3.2lbs, hope I didn't lose too much spiritual energy from the stone... Photo #142A  Photo #142B  Of course the stone in LED light appears blue tinged. Looks a bit different in normal lighting.  Can't wait to be a crystal therapist some day...  |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 10, 2021 14:50:40 GMT -5
lordsorril I think you are carving out a valuable niche as a cat crystal therapist. Don't think for a second that's not a real thing.  On a different note, I like your snakes, but love your cat. Some might say he is merely smelling the rock. A certified animal crystal therapist would know that it is actually channeling positive energy through the magical sensors located at its whisker tips.
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 10, 2021 14:55:52 GMT -5
lordsorril Did you find or buy that labradorite? It's a nice one.
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 10, 2021 18:53:37 GMT -5
lordsorril Did you find or buy that labradorite? It's a nice one. Thanks, I don't get out to Madagascar as much as I would like to (as in-ever)...so I bought this Labradorite rough from Roughstone Rocks their supply on larger pieces of Labradorite is a little hit or miss, but, if you stalk the site on a regular basis you can get your hands on some big chunks and rarer stones. Their NH site is easily in driving distance for me--for a while they were selling 1lb+ mixed Brazilian rough stones 100lbs. for $150--seriously thought about taking a trip, but, I would like to park my car in my garage this winter...so I had to pass... As for those Petrified Triceratops neck plates I was bidding on with Ebay...I definitely would have made an exception if I had won...no surprise they are worth much more to someone who is not going to run them through a rock tumbler...  |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 10, 2021 22:29:08 GMT -5
lordsorril Did you find or buy that labradorite? It's a nice one. Thanks, I don't get out to Madagascar as much as I would like to (as in-ever)...so I bought this Labradorite rough from Roughstone Rocks their supply on larger pieces of Labradorite is a little hit or miss, but, if you stalk the site on a regular basis you can get your hands on some big chunks and rarer stones. Their NH site is easily in driving distance for me--for a while they were selling 1lb+ mixed Brazilian rough stones 100lbs. for $150--seriously thought about taking a trip, but, I would like to park my car in my garage this winter...so I had to pass... As for those Petrified Triceratops neck plates I was bidding on with Ebay...I definitely would have made an exception if I had won...no surprise they are worth much more to someone who is not going to run them through a rock tumbler... I've bought a bunch of rocks from roughstone.rocks as well. Very much hit or miss in general, even with the same material. When it's a hit, I have gotten nice rocks at very good prices. But some has been pretty poor. And they have shipped me what I hate the most: poor quality face cut chunks. In other words, it looked promising enough that someone wanted to see inside. When it turned out to be low quality, it got sold off. But it it had been good, I would never have gotten it. If you are going to sell face cut rough that has been high-graded, I think that is something that should be disclosed. With that said, I am satisfied with the company overall and will continue to buy rocks from them on occasion, I'm sure. I like that the are willing to cram 40 pounds in a USPS LFRB. A lot of sellers think they can't get more than about 25-30 pounds in those boxes, which frankly means they aren't trying very hard. catmandewe holds the record in this regard, having shipped me a LFRB with 46 or 47 pounds of Montana agates. When the man says he will sell you a full box of agates at a fixed price, he means business. |
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Post by stephan on Aug 10, 2021 23:22:37 GMT -5
Lol, how much am I getting paid here...? I have not tried taking photos with my cats and snakes together. I did try years ago to take a photo of my 9lb. tuxedo cat next to my 14lb. Flemish Giant rabbit, however, he sees all moving things as food  ...given the fact his favorite toy is a plush snake on a pole that he drags around by the neck...I'm thinking that introducing him to ball pythons probably will not go well... It does look like an image from a commercial. As a matter of fact you just reminded me: I was at a flea market over the weekend and one woman had a table with overpriced low quality, cracked/poorly shaped semi-clear quartz crystals. She said that scientists were con-artists and that conventional medicine was a scam and she was a 'real doctor' certified in crystal healing. As a scientist in the medical field I diplomatically said nothing, but, how does one get 'certified' in crystal healing?....maybe I should get certified and add that to my list of credentials.  Funny you should ask, because you've got option. If you're looking for a bargain, how about $12.99 for a "complete practitioners course with certificate"? But if you want the real deal, it will cost you $1,555 at the Love and Life School. This is actually quite a bargain. The website makes clear that you will be receiving courses and materials worth over $6,000! In honor of Ron Popeil (RIP): “but wait, there’s more. Once you have the complete kit, you can set and forget it.” |
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Post by stephan on Aug 10, 2021 23:24:14 GMT -5
But if you want the real deal, it will cost you $1,555 at the Love and Life School. This is actually quite a bargain. The website makes clear that you will be receiving courses and materials worth over $6,000! Whooo! Sign me up! Lets see: What do I need to get started? It says '1 piece of Labradorite' required...Let me check...How about this one? Hmmm maybe they think it should be a little more polished for better 'energy transferral'? I can do that. Going to lose a bit of mass though. 6.1lbs. down to 3.2lbs, hope I didn't lose too much spiritual energy from the stone... Photo #142A Photo #142B Of course the stone in LED light appears blue tinged. Looks a bit different in normal lighting. Can't wait to be a crystal therapist some day... No unobtainium needed? |
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 11, 2021 7:35:58 GMT -5
I've bought a bunch of rocks from roughstone.rocks as well. Very much hit or miss in general, even with the same material. When it's a hit, I have gotten nice rocks at very good prices. But some has been pretty poor. And they have shipped me what I hate the most: poor quality face cut chunks. In other words, it looked promising enough that someone wanted to see inside. When it turned out to be low quality, it got sold off. But it it had been good, I would never have gotten it. If you are going to sell face cut rough that has been high-graded, I think that is something that should be disclosed. With that said, I am satisfied with the company overall and will continue to buy rocks from them on occasion, I'm sure. I like that the are willing to cram 40 pounds in a USPS LFRB. A lot of sellers think they can't get more than about 25-30 pounds in those boxes, which frankly means they aren't trying very hard. catmandewe holds the record in this regard, having shipped me a LFRB with 46 or 47 pounds of Montana agates. When the man says he will sell you a full box of agates at a fixed price, he means business. Yeah, I hear you about RoughStone. First order went fine: 20lbs. big chunks of azurite (as shown in the center of the first post on this thread), the second time I bought 20lbs. of 2nd grade Chalcopyrite listed as 'small pieces only' and they sent me one 3" piece and the rest was about 1/4" or less (with about 4lbs. of pure dust)...now I avoid any listing of theirs that says 'small pieces only'. It is true that most of the LFRBs I get from various people have about 30-35lbs of material in them. My personal record holder is a guy on Ebay that sells 'Gold Ore' I had won a 35lb+ auction and his LFRB box was 52lbs...I'm amazed the box arrived in one piece. I haven't opened the box yet, could just be a pile of lead. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Aug 11, 2021 9:37:50 GMT -5
Specific gravity, my friends. Rock that contains metal will always weigh more than rocks that don't.  |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 12, 2021 21:01:30 GMT -5
Specific gravity, my friends. Rock that contains metal will always weigh more than rocks that don't. The LFRB of Montana agates from catmandewe contained no metal, he crammed it so full he had to wrap the entire box in multiple layers of shrink wrap to keep it closed, like the guys at the airport who wrap suitcases. This would be a good time to mention that if you want an overfilled box of Montana agates at a fair, flat rate price, I whole heartedly recommend catmandewe and the Idaho Rock Shop. He manages to get almost 30 pounds of Montana's in a medium flat rate box for $130 shipped which actually ends up being a slightly better deal per pound than the LFRB. (Don't tell him or he might raise the price!) I'm afraid I've bought 250+ pounds from him so far, so proceed with caution. They can be addictive. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Aug 12, 2021 21:07:02 GMT -5
Specific gravity, my friends. Rock that contains metal will always weigh more than rocks that don't. The LFRB of Montana agates from catmandewe contained no metal, he crammed it so full he had to wrap the entire box in multiple layers of shrink wrap to keep it closed, like the guys at the airport who wrap suitcases. This would be a good time to mention that if you want an overfilled box of Montana agates at a fair, flat rate price, I whole heartedly recommend catmandewe and the Idaho Rock Shop. He manages to get almost 30 pounds of Montana's in a medium flat rate box for $130 shipped which actually ends up being a slightly better deal per pound than the LFRB. (Don't tell him or he might raise the price!) I'm afraid I've bought 250+ pounds from him so far, so proceed with caution. They can be addictive. Yep, Tony always crams the box full. We've gotten rough from him on numerous occasions and it's always that way.  |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 12, 2021 21:18:20 GMT -5
lordsorril My examples of roughstone.rocks being highly variable in quality: Kamababa Jasper -- At least half of the 10 pound yellow piece is crap. The yellow is calcite or something soft and undercuts immediately. It runs throughout this chunk. The other chunk is not only super solid with great patterns, but it weighs 13 pounds, even though I only paid for 10! Roughstone gets an A+ for the one chunk, and a D- for the other.   Brecciated jasper -- The one piece is not very brecciated (if at all), and it has no real color or pattern. Just a "blah" rock that has no lapidary purpose. The other chunk is pretty sweet for $2 a pound, if I recall correctly.   Polish flint -- One 10 pound chunk was face cut when I received it and has a tiny, not very good pattern in the middle. The rock is mostly soft matrix, and whoever sent it to me could clearly see this was the case. The other piece is going to be really nice!   In all cases, given their prices, I can't complain too much. I called the guy on the phone and asked him if he would pick me out big pieces of one of his more expensive materials, and if so, I would buy 40 pounds of it. Despite my offer to buy $300 in rocks from him, he said they didn't have time to pick out big pieces. I told him it is faster to fulfill a large order with big pieces, but he was unpersuaded. He wasn't rude, but I can't say I plan to call back in the future.
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 13, 2021 6:14:37 GMT -5
The LFRB of Montana agates from catmandewe contained no metal, he crammed it so full he had to wrap the entire box in multiple layers of shrink wrap to keep it closed, like the guys at the airport who wrap suitcases. This would be a good time to mention that if you want an overfilled box of Montana agates at a fair, flat rate price, I whole heartedly recommend catmandewe and the Idaho Rock Shop. He manages to get almost 30 pounds of Montana's in a medium flat rate box for $130 shipped which actually ends up being a slightly better deal per pound than the LFRB. (Don't tell him or he might raise the price!) I'm afraid I've bought 250+ pounds from him so far, so proceed with caution. They can be addictive. Thanks for the info! I will keep that in mind. I won a little over 500lbs of Montana Agate from a guy on Ebay a few months ago for $1/lb (after shipping). The guy only sent me 80lbs. and defaulted on the rest of the auctions. Ebay refunded my money for the missing stones and deleted his account, but, I still got 80lbs...given how long it takes for me to tumble Montana Agate...I think I'm all set for a while... I also have several LFRBs from when I bulk purchased an entire rock collectors inventory, he was located in Montana, I couldn't say if there are really any Montana agate in the boxes...I haven't opened them yet...but they sounded like agate when I was stacking them... |
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 13, 2021 6:26:54 GMT -5
lordsorril My examples of roughstone.rocks being highly variable in quality: Kamababa Jasper -- At least half the yellow piece is crap. The yellow is calcite or something soft and undercuts immediately. The other chunk is awesome and weighs 13 pounds, even though I only paid for 10 pounds. Brecciated jasper -- The one piece is not very brecciated, and it has no color or pattern. I doubt I'll ever even cut it. Just a "blah" rock. The other chunk is pretty sweet. Polish flint -- One 10 pound chunk was face cut and has a tiny, not very good pattern in the middle. The rock is mostly soft matrix. The other piece is going to be really nice! In all cases, given the very good prices, I can't complain too much. I called the guy on the phone and asked him if he would pick me out big pieces of one of his more expensive materials, and if so, I would buy 40 pounds of it. Despite my offer to buy almost $300 in rocks from him, he said he didn't have time to pick out big pieces. He must be a very busy man, indeed. Good to know! I found this very helpful. I've had 20lbs. of Polish Flint kicking around in my Roughstone online cart every time I visit the website, but, I always shy away because I'm not sure if the pieces are going to be ugly... I haven't actually visited the Roughstone physical storefront in NH. But, I was thinking: if all the people that go there personally have the option of picking the 'best' pieces from their rock bins...does that mean that all the 'other' lower quality pieces get sent to people that order online? If so: I'm hesitant to order anything else from them. |
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 13, 2021 6:51:52 GMT -5
Speaking of Montana Agates...King Cobra Jasper is another one of those stones that I've found to be incredibly durable (shown in center of photo below). Photo #143  I have pieces of king cobra jasper I have tumbled perfectly, but, this piece absolutely refused (a little over 12 weeks at #46 grit). I figured it would fracture if I continued to attempt to round it, so I finished it as-is. |
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Post by Rockindad on Aug 13, 2021 9:42:46 GMT -5
lordsorril My examples of roughstone.rocks being highly variable in quality: Kamababa Jasper -- At least half the yellow piece is crap. The yellow is calcite or something soft and undercuts immediately. The other chunk is awesome and weighs 13 pounds, even though I only paid for 10 pounds. Brecciated jasper -- The one piece is not very brecciated, and it has no color or pattern. I doubt I'll ever even cut it. Just a "blah" rock. The other chunk is pretty sweet. Polish flint -- One 10 pound chunk was face cut and has a tiny, not very good pattern in the middle. The rock is mostly soft matrix. The other piece is going to be really nice! In all cases, given the very good prices, I can't complain too much. I called the guy on the phone and asked him if he would pick me out big pieces of one of his more expensive materials, and if so, I would buy 40 pounds of it. Despite my offer to buy almost $300 in rocks from him, he said he didn't have time to pick out big pieces. He must be a very busy man, indeed. Good to know! I found this very helpful. I've had 20lbs. of Polish Flint kicking around in my Roughstone online cart every time I visit the website, but, I always shy away because I'm not sure if the pieces are going to be ugly... I haven't actually visited the Roughstone physical storefront in NH. But, I was thinking: if all the people that go there personally have the option of picking the 'best' pieces from their rock bins...does that mean that all the 'other' lower quality pieces get sent to people that order online? If so: I'm hesitant to order anything else from them. I’ve found this to be true of pretty much every online vendor. Being located where we are we buy everything we work. Ordered large quantities from RoughStone many times, sometimes the material is great, sometimes meh. Though being completely honest the experience has been the same with Kingsley, The Rock Shed, The Gem Shop.......Last large order I placed with TRS included 25lbs. of Mozambique Agate and 25lbs. of Carnelians among many other pounds of stone, grit, polish, parts, etc. Those 50lbs. were a complete bust, hard to believe they were not picked through rather thoroughly, either by in person customers or employees. ONE small piece of the Mozambique’s had any banding and not a single Carnelian. Also the colors were, well let’s just say unspectacular. I do not like saying this as I like dealing with them and have spent a fortune with them, but it’s the facts. Whenever possible we try to stick with larger pieces that we break down ourselves to avoid the issue of picked over crushed rock but as you know that is no guarantee either. I wish the marketplace section here was a bit more active, I have NEVER had a negative experience buying materials from anyone here. |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 13, 2021 13:32:01 GMT -5
Good to know! I found this very helpful. I've had 20lbs. of Polish Flint kicking around in my Roughstone online cart every time I visit the website, but, I always shy away because I'm not sure if the pieces are going to be ugly... I haven't actually visited the Roughstone physical storefront in NH. But, I was thinking: if all the people that go there personally have the option of picking the 'best' pieces from their rock bins...does that mean that all the 'other' lower quality pieces get sent to people that order online? If so: I'm hesitant to order anything else from them. I’ve found this to be true of pretty much every online vendor. Being located where we are we buy everything we work. Ordered large quantities from RoughStone many times, sometimes the material is great, sometimes meh. Though being completely honest the experience has been the same with Kingsley, The Rock Shed, The Gem Shop.......Last large order I placed with TRS included 25lbs. of Mozambique Agate and 25lbs. of Carnelians among many other pounds of stone, grit, polish, parts, etc. Those 50lbs. were a complete bust, hard to believe they were not picked through rather thoroughly, either by in person customers or employees. ONE small piece of the Mozambique’s had any banding and not a single Carnelian. Also the colors were, well let’s just say unspectacular. I do not like saying this as I like dealing with them and have spent a fortune with them, but it’s the facts. Whenever possible we try to stick with larger pieces that we break down ourselves to avoid the issue of picked over crushed rock but as you know that is no guarantee either. I wish the marketplace section here was a bit more active, I have NEVER had a negative experience buying materials from anyone here. I agree with your sentiments for the most part. Add T-Rocks in Quartzsite as another vendor with highly variable quality. They sold me some nice Mexican agates on a few occasions at a fair price of around $4 a pound. Another time they fulfilled a $250 order with pure garbage. Sagenite "agate" that I could break into dust with my hands, pet wood that was full of holes and with no pattern or colors, and other pieces of cutting rough that were 50%+ matrix. I have not bought anything from T-Rocks since. I've had the same experience as you with Kingsley and The Rock Shed. With Kingsley, rather than quality being inconsistent, they seem to just sell a lot of low quality rough. Consistently low quality. Their baby Brazilian agates are nice, however, and quite the deal if you buy 25 pounds+. Their crushed crazy lace is fine also. The Rock Shed is slightly better than average in consistency, but I, too, bought quite a bit of the Mozambique agates and what I could see through the bags hasn't even motived me to cut them all open. Their Bots have been highly variable, with some bags being mostly tiny, fractures orange pieces. Their Bahia agates have never disappointed, however, and their large crazy lace crushed rough is good, even at $7 a pound. My experience is that the Gem Shop is better than most. At least they try to grade their rough that is worth grading and set different price points accordingly. Their higher grade rough is expensive but almost always worth it if you value quality over quantity. I recently bought 10 pounds of their $10 per pound Mexican Crazy lace cutting rough to see if it is any different than what I can get for around $3-$4 a pound elsewhere. Their crazy lace is, indeed, superior quality. There is almost no scrap or quartz in any of the pieces of rough. Very solid with nice patterns and colors. It is high grade material chosen by someone who knows how to grade it. With some rough, TGS has 3 different grades, and they say a few words about the grades, e.g., "B grade with broken nodules and lots of quartz" or something like that. I appreciate this info. Too many vendors do not bother to say one word about the rough. I have never gotten the sense that rough from TGS had been picked over. To the contrary, it appears that whoever is compiling online orders actually puts some thought into the process. For example, the first time I ordered their whole Botswana nodules I got just 2 pounds to try them out. They sent me about 15 smallish (1-1/2" to 2") but mostly very nice whole nodules. For a 2 pound order, I liked receiving more, smaller nodules. I later ordered 20 pound, and recently 50 pounds of the same Botswana nodules, and they sent me mostly larger ones (2-1/2"-3-1/2") which were also very nice as a whole. I thought this was an intelligent approach to fulfilling these orders. The Gem Shop is the only online vendor where I actually make assumptions about quality based on price, and those assumptions are usually true. That's not to say that every rock they have sent me has been stellar, but the quality has never been embarrassingly bad. My only gripe with TGS is their shipping calculator will only allow up to 10 pounds in a MFRB and up to 20 pounds in a LFRB. In their defense, they do package very well, putting different types of rough in separate brown paper bags, which are taped shut and labeled. And they add sufficient padding. But they could still do this and up the weights to at least 15 lbs and 25 lbs respectively. TGS has also sent me partial refunds for shipping (without me asking) when the shipping calculator overcharged for some reason. Another nice touch that shows they are trying to run an honest business. Tony ( catmandewe ) at the Idaho Rock Shop can fit almost 50 pounds of Montana agates in a LFRB. He needs to teach TGS how to stuff those flat rate boxes. Add him to my list of vendors who has never disappointed. I've only bought his Montana agates, but the boxes come stuffed full of mostly whole, mostly nice nodules, and he's even accommodated special requests. I'm not trying to hijack this Snakes and Stones thread with a long review of vendors, but I consider this epic mega-thread to be something like a place to publicly chat with lordsorril , and on occasion he treats us with more snakes and stones. Since lordsorril also lives in a place without a lot of local rock shops, it sounds like he, too, has bought from a lot of different online vendors and is interested in discussing experiences with them. I can't imagine that anyone who came for snakes and stones will be too put off by some vendor review insights. |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 13, 2021 13:56:48 GMT -5
The LFRB of Montana agates from catmandewe contained no metal, he crammed it so full he had to wrap the entire box in multiple layers of shrink wrap to keep it closed, like the guys at the airport who wrap suitcases. This would be a good time to mention that if you want an overfilled box of Montana agates at a fair, flat rate price, I whole heartedly recommend catmandewe and the Idaho Rock Shop. He manages to get almost 30 pounds of Montana's in a medium flat rate box for $130 shipped which actually ends up being a slightly better deal per pound than the LFRB. (Don't tell him or he might raise the price!) I'm afraid I've bought 250+ pounds from him so far, so proceed with caution. They can be addictive. Thanks for the info! I will keep that in mind. I won a little over 500lbs of Montana Agate from a guy on Ebay a few months ago for $1/lb (after shipping). The guy only sent me 80lbs. and defaulted on the rest of the auctions. Ebay refunded my money for the missing stones and deleted his account, but, I still got 80lbs...given how long it takes for me to tumble Montana Agate...I think I'm all set for a while... I also have several LFRBs from when I bulk purchased an entire rock collectors inventory, he was located in Montana, I couldn't say if there are really any Montana agate in the boxes...I haven't opened them yet... but they sounded like agate when I was stacking them...I would normally call b.s. (or at least think it) if someone were to say that a box "sounds like agates," but those hard Montana agates really do have a different sound before you even open the box. Unless you buy from Tony catmandewe, in which case there is no sound since he overstuffs the boxes to the point that he has to wrap them in multiple layers of shrink wrap to keep them from exploding. No sound because the rocks can't move. The only sound is the mail carrier huffing and puffing as he carried the boxes to my door. |
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Post by holajonathan on Aug 13, 2021 13:59:06 GMT -5
Speaking of Montana Agates...King Cobra Jasper is another one of those stones that I've found to be incredibly durable (shown in center of photo below). Photo #143 I have pieces of king cobra jasper I have tumbled perfectly, but, this piece absolutely refused (a little over 12 weeks at #46 grit). I figured it would fracture if I continued to attempt to round it, so I finished it as-is. Looks like a snake egg sticking out of the front of the King Cobra Jasper. Good decision not to tumble off that nice detail. What else do we have here? Some SD prairie agates and maybe a few pieces of quartzite? |
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 13, 2021 17:45:11 GMT -5
Whenever possible we try to stick with larger pieces that we break down ourselves to avoid the issue of picked over crushed rock but as you know that is no guarantee either. I wish the marketplace section here was a bit more active, I have NEVER had a negative experience buying materials from anyone here. Yes, I find this very true to my experience as well. Hit or miss with most places, definitely agree that larger rocks are the safer way to go over crushed stone. What they can't see they can't 'pick out'. holajonathan and his follow-up post is nearly an identical experience to my own with the vendors he listed. I do like the Baby Brazilian Agate and Crazy Lace from Kingsley North, but, I've received such low quality material on all my other rough stone orders that I am really annoyed with them at the moment. No one has hijacked anything in this thread. This thread is for Snake and Stones and all topics therein--Snake related? Great! Rock related? Great! Photos? Even better! I just happen to add photos periodically--some place to put them... Photo #143 What else do we have here? Some SD prairie agates and maybe a few pieces of quartzite? You called it! Got them all. SD prairie agate was the first stone I ever purchased for tumbling. |
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...given the fact his favorite toy is a plush snake on a pole that he drags around by the neck...I'm thinking that introducing him to ball pythons probably will not go well... 
