lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 10, 2023 9:47:40 GMT -5
What would be the deciding factor What's +Fire? That is a good, (if not difficult) question! The pairing to produce this offspring was Fire/Het Clown x Pastel/Het Clown which gives an equal chance to produce either a Pastel or Fire Clown offspring. Ball python genes have different levels of visual expression based on a variety of factors (primarily genetic-environmental to a lesser extent). Note: The level of visual expression of genes often controls the price of the specimen (higher = more valuable). Clown is a recessive trait that changes both the pattern and color of the snake. Fire is an incomplete dominant trait which is used as a color enhancer. If a snake has the 'Fire' gene it will look relatively normal when it is young with a slight brightening of color, and then with each successive shed it will gradually grow lighter in color. Markers for Fire in a normal ball python include a faded spot on the back of the head, tightened dorsal striping, with whitened faded patches on the lower sides, and of course brightening (instead of fading) as the ball python grows. Since levels of expression can vary: You have to ask yourself if you have an exceptionally bright Clown, or a Clown with the Fire gene. In the case of the Clown in Photo #302 there is obviously something added vs. a normal Clown. Clown patterning/color change can make it difficult to tell what the additional genes are. I have seen experienced breeders posting clown ball pythons for sale with a 'possible this, possible that'-with about 8 different combinations. Side Note: Having two copies of the Fire gene creates a 'Super Fire' ball python which creates a Black Eyed Leucistic coloration.
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Post by MsAli on Apr 10, 2023 10:08:15 GMT -5
I really appreciate the lesson. It will be cool to see what that one becomes
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 12, 2023 17:13:18 GMT -5
Photo #303Black and Silver sheen Obsidian, a big piece of Chalcedony, and an odd pair of rocks in the center (I am unfamiliar with). The ball python is a Leopard Het Clown. Shown below is a close up of a green section of the stones. Whatever it is-it polishes nicely.
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 16, 2023 15:42:14 GMT -5
Photo #304Some local quartzy stones and a few pieces of Rose Quartz from the Mid-West for color. Ball python is a Pastel (+Het VPI Axanthic).
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 18, 2023 21:02:23 GMT -5
Photo #305I can count a little more than 15 types of stones in this photo (from Agate to Grossular Garnet to Topaz) Ball Python is a Spider/Black Pastel.
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 20, 2023 7:38:57 GMT -5
A while back I bought a box of halved Thunder Eggs from Ebay. I thought the faces on the eggs were pretty neat, but, the 'shell' of the eggs was heavily textured and rough. I thought I would try and clean them up to be a bit more aesthetically pleasing to hold. Rotary tumbled using #46 SiC/#120 AlOx together with cushioning, and then finished with extensive time in the vibe. About 10% broke in tumble (which is less than I expected) Photos below are the same stones shell vs. face (first group out of vibe), with a clown ball python. Photo #306APhoto #306BI never intended them to be perfect tumbles-so I am not surprised they are a bit rough--I am still very pleased with the results.
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 21, 2023 15:14:33 GMT -5
Photo #307This is the last photo of my 2022 set. Ball python is a Leopard (+Het Clown).
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Post by lordsorril on Apr 28, 2023 8:18:27 GMT -5
My gf mentioned the other day that the U.S. quarters I use in my photos are kinda ugly. She suggested I find a different coin for my upcoming 2023 photos. Who am I to deny constructive feedback? OK, lets use a $15 Canadian Silver Piece (Year of the Snake-2013)-instead (size comparison below). I don't know if the mirror polish on the coin will be an issue, guess we will find out...
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Post by MsAli on Apr 28, 2023 12:58:28 GMT -5
I love the color of that snake and the coin is very cool
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Post by lordsorril on May 1, 2023 21:31:22 GMT -5
I love the color of that snake and the coin is very cool Thanks! The one above is a Super Pastel/Lesser. The one below is a Super Pastel/Spider (+Het Hypomelanistic/+Het VPI Axanthic/Pos. Het Piebald), with a rough chunk of Beryl, (and a random pegasus for fun) lol... Closer view of the stone below:
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on May 5, 2023 6:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by lordsorril on Jul 23, 2023 11:18:27 GMT -5
Snake and Stones 2023 Begins: Photo #308
Ivory Ball Python (Homozygous for YellowBelly) This snake can be seen hatching here:
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Post by lordsorril on Jul 25, 2023 10:27:36 GMT -5
Photo #309Nipomo Agate with Marcasite Inclusions BP: Het Gravel or Het YB (the two genes are visually identical and on the same locus-so it is a 50/50 guess)
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realrockhound
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Post by realrockhound on Jul 25, 2023 10:33:14 GMT -5
Snakes are cool. My banana ball is such a derp. I like when I fill his water dish and he dunks his head and blows bubbles.
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Post by lordsorril on Jul 27, 2023 6:30:50 GMT -5
Photo #310Agatized Coral with an Ivory Spider BP.
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lordsorril
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Post by lordsorril on Jul 28, 2023 21:14:54 GMT -5
Photo #311Assorted Thunder Eggs with a Clown Ball Python.
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Post by Pat on Jul 28, 2023 21:39:07 GMT -5
I always enjoy your Snakes and Stones thread. The snakes with flowers are cute and personable.
I’ll stick to my kitty! Thanks!
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Post by lordsorril on Jul 31, 2023 9:53:49 GMT -5
I always enjoy your Snakes and Stones thread. The snakes with flowers are cute and personable. I’ll stick to my kitty! Thanks! Thanks! But, I know you would love to have a cute and cuddly Ball Python as a pet...you only have to feed them once a week when they are small, and once every 2 weeks when they are an adult...very low maintenance... Photo #312Ivory Spider Ball Python with a chunk of King Cobra Jasper. The irregular nature of King Cobra Jasper makes larger pieces take an eternity in my UV-45/18 to get to a shape I deem acceptable...
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Post by lordsorril on Aug 6, 2023 5:44:46 GMT -5
Photo #313Some local granite, and a BP: Het Gravel or Yellowbelly I have decent luck polishing larger grained granite, the finer grained granites: are just a speckled polish.
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silverstallion
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Post by silverstallion on Aug 9, 2023 18:58:06 GMT -5
Amazing pictures. My sister has a fascination for snakes and me for rocks, we both love your snake/minerals pictures!
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