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Post by stephan on Sept 7, 2020 18:42:03 GMT -5
Here is a slab of moss agate (likely horse canyon) I acquired in an estate sale a few years ago:  DSC_1071_Moss agate slab by Stephan T., on Flickr What is interesting about this, is that there are four different "zones," with pretty distinct lines of division. I would say that maybe the left third or so of the slab is cabbing quality. Using grass as a background gave me the least contrast, but the best white balance (though it is still a bit off). Future cameras to be sold in California will need a "smoky" setting. |
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Post by stardiamond on Sept 7, 2020 23:28:01 GMT -5
I discovered that there is Horse Canyon agate and Horse Canyon Moss agate. The Horse Canyon agate has a lot of different looks including different colors. The HC moss agate is usually consistent with the pattern.
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Post by stephan on Sept 8, 2020 12:07:19 GMT -5
I discovered that there is Horse Canyon agate and Horse Canyon Moss agate. The Horse Canyon agate has a lot of different looks including different colors. The HC moss agate is usually consistent with the pattern. Are they from the same locale, just one being a moss agate, and the other not? I do have some material with less moss and some fortifications. In any case, what I see here is the cabbing material and the junk line(s). It looks pretty typical for the material to me. The ratios may vary, and some slabs may be trimmed, but other than that, pretty normal, other than what was mentioned above. |
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Post by Sabre52 on Feb 5, 2021 9:38:06 GMT -5
Horse Canyon agate comes in a multitude of colors and patterns. The most famous moss type is a green-greenish gray type but I've also seen white moss, yellow spaghetti type moss/tube agate, red moss and sort of a flesh toned type. There is also really nice plume agate in red and creamy colors ( a buddy of mine found a great red plume on a collecting trip we went on). I've also seen some orby stuff and a lot of banded types. Also earth toned palm root. The caretaker of the fancy recreational park where we were allowed to camp on our field trip had an incredible collection of Horse Canyon cabs and many were of varieties I'd never seen before. Field trip was a one off as we had a combination to go through the gates and afterward some jerk used the combo to sneak in and cut the guys fences and was caught, thereby shutting down collecting access to everyone.
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Post by greig on Feb 5, 2021 10:15:27 GMT -5
Horse Canyon agate comes in a multitude of colors and patterns. The most famous moss type is a green-greenish gray type but I've also seen white moss, yellow spaghetti type moss/tube agate, red moss and sort of a flesh toned type. There is also really nice plume agate in red and creamy colors ( a buddy of mine found a great red plume on a collecting trip we went on). I've also seen some orby stuff and a lot of banded types. Also earth toned palm root. The caretaker of the fancy recreational park where we were allowed to camp on our field trip had an incredible collection of Horse Canyon cabs and many were of varieties I'd never seen before. Field trip was a one off as we had a combination to go through the gates and afterward some jerk used the combo to sneak in and cut the guys fences and was caught, thereby shutting down collecting access to everyone. It is horrible when somebody takes advantage like that (by reusing the combo). Worse if he was destructive and cut fences. Turds like that ruin things for everybody. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 5, 2021 10:28:15 GMT -5
Here is a slab of moss agate (likely horse canyon) I acquired in an estate sale a few years ago: DSC_1071_Moss agate slab by Stephan T., on Flickr What is interesting about this, is that there are four different "zones," with pretty distinct lines of division. I would say that maybe the left third or so of the slab is cabbing quality. Using grass as a background gave me the least contrast, but the best white balance (though it is still a bit off). Future cameras to be sold in California will need a "smoky" setting. This is a good example showing I really need more experience with choosing the right spot on slabs to use for cabs. I see the section you're referring to and I would have said that was the "best" section for great cabs...but I definitely would've used the middle section for cabs as well. I can see not using the right third at all... I seem to see warning labels on practically everything that say something to the effect of "This product is known in the state of California to cause cancer"...and California seems to want to legislate nearly everything. What legislation has California put out now with regards to just plain breathing in that state? Do all residences and businesses have to post the following: "Breathing in the state of California is believed to cause cancer...breathe at your own risk!" Horse Canyon agate comes in a multitude of colors and patterns. The most famous moss type is a green-greenish gray type but I've also seen white moss, yellow spaghetti type moss/tube agate, red moss and sort of a flesh toned type. There is also really nice plume agate in red and creamy colors ( a buddy of mine found a great red plume on a collecting trip we went on). I've also seen some orby stuff and a lot of banded types. Also earth toned palm root. The caretaker of the fancy recreational park where we were allowed to camp on our field trip had an incredible collection of Horse Canyon cabs and many were of varieties I'd never seen before. Field trip was a one off as we had a combination to go through the gates and afterward some jerk used the combo to sneak in and cut the guys fences and was caught, thereby shutting down collecting access to everyone. I swear that is one of the things that really gets my hackles up! One disrespectful and self-centered person ruining it for everyone! What a waste of a very amazing hounding ground. |
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Post by stephan on Feb 5, 2021 11:08:34 GMT -5
I seem to see warning labels on practically everything that say something to the effect of "This product is known in the state of California to cause cancer"...and California seems to want to legislate nearly everything. What legislation has California put out now with regards to just plain breathing in that state? Do all residences and businesses have to post the following: "Breathing in the state of California is believed to cause cancer...breathe at your own risk During wildfires, yes! Absolutely. Last two summers, it got very close to the point where we would have had to require everyone that worked at our facility to wear N-95 masks. Even without the mega-fires, we have so many people on the road and so much agricultural dust that the air can get pretty chunky in the summer. The geography of the Central Valley doesn't help, as it traps everything. For a long time the Bay Area was exempt from stricter smog checks because their air was fine... because the prevailing winds blew their pollution into the Valley. As a Safety Engineer, we're talking my bread and butter here. Yes, in some ways CA goes overboard (coffee and French fries nearly getting listed as carcinogens), but it seems that way because many things are actually under-regulated Federally. There are substances and situations that are unbelievable that they are not considered hazardous. It usually takes a disaster to move people into action, and then they sometimes over-do it. Remember the EPA wasn't even formed until the Cuyahoga River caught on fire, a situation so bad that even Richard Nixon felt compelled to sign it into law (not being political, just historical). Since then, humans have grappled to find middle ground (something we're not very good at) between over- and under-regulation. If you're not strict, people will find loopholes, since there will always be "THAT guy," which will then spawn something very strict. Someone with the personality type of the Horse Canyon guy Mel mentioned (the good old "more for me, %^&* everyone else" attitude). Overall, I'm pretty happy I live here. Now I should get back to figuring out whether a pneumatic actuator is hazardous waste or scrap metal.  |
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Post by stephan on Feb 5, 2021 11:27:31 GMT -5
And here is a State Park that is monument to California, unregulated. The beautiful rock formations you see are not natural, but due to hydraulic gold mining. The debris from the practice eventually caused a massive flood that buried two towns under 25 feet of mud, destroyed farmland and made multiple rivers unnavigable for several years:  IMG_0113_Hiking Diggins Pond by Stephan T., on Flickr  IMG_0099_Hiking Diggins Pond by Stephan T., on Flickr  IMG_0106_Hiking Diggins Pond by Stephan T., on Flickr \ We also have lots of mercury contamination (to the point where you can't eat the fish from certain streams and lakes). Some is natural, but a lot is due to gold mining. |
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