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Post by stephan on Nov 28, 2020 22:06:59 GMT -5
Asking $25 (shipping included) for 16 slabs:  DSC_1897_Slabs by Stephan T., on Flickr Row 1: Stone Canyon jasper, unknown brecciated jasper, Black Butte jasper, Bird's Eye Rhyolite Row 2: Big Sur nephrite heel cut, Black jade, Victorville black jade, Clear Creek jadeite slablet (heel cut, partially drilled) Row 3: mariposite, tigers eye, unknown breccia, dino bone (1-2 cabs) Row 4: Brazilian agate, bacon agate, Montana agate, moss agate (possibly Maury Mountain) PM me if interested, or if you have questions. |
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mikeydbd
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Post by mikeydbd on Nov 29, 2020 15:19:52 GMT -5
would you take 20?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Nov 29, 2020 18:00:35 GMT -5
Seriously? You are asking him to discount his slabs 20%? Why? That's a rock bottom price as it is. Since you signed on in October, all five of your posts have been about purchasing material, and nothing else. No introduction, other meaningful posts, nothing. You have contributed nothing to this forum. Do you think that is fair? I've got no problem with you hanging around and making rock purchases from the good members of this forum. But please give back. You've joined the forum in name only, now get to know other members here, and contribute. Signed, A long time member that has seen this all too frequently. |
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mikeydbd
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Post by mikeydbd on Nov 30, 2020 12:19:03 GMT -5
It's called bartering "a pretty common practice everywhere but retail". Didn't know that was frowned upon here so won't do it again. You should probably have more productive hobbies than to patrol my account and try to police the website and try to degrade people through the keyboard. Just a suggestion though. Hopefully you cheer up.
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Post by MrP on Nov 30, 2020 12:39:03 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Nov 30, 2020 14:25:50 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he'd take $60... |
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Post by stephan on Nov 30, 2020 16:30:10 GMT -5
It's called bartering "a pretty common practice everywhere but retail". Didn't know that was frowned upon here so won't do it again. You should probably have more productive hobbies than to patrol my account and try to police the website and try to degrade people through the keyboard. Just a suggestion though. Hopefully you cheer up. They sold at the asking price, which is barely covering expenses. My offers will all be at a fair price (around $1 per slab, after shipping -- not bad for a box that includes Stone canyon jasper, jade and dino bone). It costs to acquire, cut and mail. Most of the holiday sales that people are offering (me included) are out of gratitude for the camaraderie, advice, friendship and generosity of the members on the board, so people can get material they ordinarily couldn't -- especially in these COVID/no-rock-show times. If material doesn't move for a while, I may elect to drop the price or to withdraw the offer. Finally, two pieces of advice. First, please consider your comments to rockpickerforever. She was not degrading you (or any of the other things that are claimed in your post), but informing you of the etiquette that is asked of members. Second, it could be wise to reconsider any sentence beginning with "you should." |
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RWA3006
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Post by RWA3006 on Nov 30, 2020 16:57:56 GMT -5
Very fair price. I'd be embarrassed to dicker it down more because it takes time to photograph the slabs, list them, package and send them. The seller didn't even break even if his time is worth anything.
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EricD
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Post by EricD on Nov 30, 2020 18:07:22 GMT -5
Imagine if you will; The fine line one walks when he decides to barter with someone, when what he wants is already offered for the rock bottom price...
What will happen if one tip-toes too far over the line of barter, you ask yourself? We have entered that realm now. On... the Twilight Zone...
Or the RTH-zone?
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on Dec 1, 2020 14:38:02 GMT -5
My two cents (not making rules and not scolding anyone  ) on the subject... we don't want to discourage buyers from coming here to buy. We have a heavily trafficked "discussion only" Facebook group with a wonderful group of members - some of whom are active forum members - and they are constantly telling folks that the forum is the right place if they want to buy and sell. My point is sending an active buyer away from the forum with his tail between his legs is not a good look - and in the long run not fair for our sellers? That being said I agree that it was a super fair price that was posted, and I personally would not considered asking for a discount, but at the same time we have never been opposed to dickering. I do it constantly in real life. With a BIN listing and in the absence of a posted invitation to dicker ("or best offer") I think I probably would have taken my offer to the seller via private message. What I think I'll do - again without creating any new rules - is to add a note to the selling guidelines for sellers to post "OBO" if they want to encourage offers. [edited to add: or "firm" if offers are not welcomed] |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 1, 2020 16:12:39 GMT -5
My two cents (not making rules and not scolding anyone  ) on the subject... we don't want to discourage buyers from coming here to buy. We have a heavily trafficked "discussion only" Facebook group with a wonderful group of members - some of whom are active forum members - and they are constantly telling folks that the forum is the right place if they want to buy and sell. My point is sending an active buyer away from the forum with his tail between his legs is not a good look - and in the long run not fair for our sellers? That being said I agree that it was a super fair price that was posted, and I personally would not considered asking for a discount, but at the same time we have never been opposed to dickering. I do it constantly in real life. With a BIN listing and in the absence of a posted invitation to dicker ("or best offer") I think I probably would have taken my offer to the seller via private message. What I think I'll do - again without creating any new rules - is to add a note to the selling guidelines for sellers to post "OBO" if they want to encourage offers. [edited to add: or "firm" if offers are not welcomed] FWIW, I put a lot of thought into my original post, and tried to be as gentle as possible. I have been here a long time, and it has always bothered me to see my RTH friend's generosity get taken advantage of, time after time.
I think being able to buy inexpensive material here should be a right earned, by participating in the forum, not for just any schmo to come along and take advantage of the sellers. Like stephan said, it is a service to the members, and he usually just barely breaks even if, in fact, he does.
I don't like people that cheat systems, and only sign up here to save some $. I can do without those types of people here, they are selfish, IMO. But I put out the olive branch and suggested if he wanted to stay (he never even posted an introduction), he get to know the people here first, and give back to the forum.
The intention of my post was originally about not participating, making him, IMO, NOT in good standing. The forum works because members give back, some way more than others (you know who you are  ). Had he not attempted to make a lowball offer on Stephan's slabs, I would have just let it go. To me, that would have been insulting, since he had such a rock bottom price on them to begin with.
Agree or disagree, it is up to you.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 1, 2020 16:17:03 GMT -5
I'm late to the conversation. I just want to add to stephan that I thought that was a very fair price. I'm glad Tommy elaborated on the rules to include this circumstance.
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 1, 2020 16:22:35 GMT -5
Jean, rockpickerforever We posted at the same time. You did a fair amount of moderating today. Keep up the good work.
I and I'm sure others, share your opinion. Good standing is earned. Not to drop any bombs on mikeydbd. I want him to feel welcome enough here to do an introduction and get to know us. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 1, 2020 16:35:27 GMT -5
That was my original intention, just to point out that people can join, but they are members in name only if they do not participate, giving back.
As previously mentioned, I would have just dropped it except for the lowballing.
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Post by stephan on Dec 1, 2020 19:47:23 GMT -5
Thanks all. I deliberately priced low. I know for a fact that it would have been fair for three or four of those items. Funny thing is, the bidder would have gotten more than what I listed, simply to fill the box.
I’m sure all will be happy to hear that the box (and more) is going to a very deserving buyer. Very active, always giving of time and compliments. That’s far more valuable than money. Not making a profit by any means, but that is okay. It’s my choice to offer it. I’m having fun putting together a box that is both rich in variety, and, I hope, educational for future purchases. I’ve experienced a lot of love from this group, and want to give back.
In spite of knowing that I’m offering a fair price, I do appreciate hearing that it is perceived that way.
Maybe in the future, I’ll even be in a position to just give stuff away, but not right now. Until then, I feel grateful that people had my back.
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RWA3006
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Post by RWA3006 on Dec 2, 2020 19:31:59 GMT -5
I appreciate folks offering good deals on this board, and I've spent a lot of money here. It inspired me to sell some things here because the crowd is pretty good to deal with and I've not been burned yet. We've got a good thing going here and it's understandable that folks can feel protective about this aspect of RTH. Thanks goes to Tommy for this service. |
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) on the subject... we don't want to discourage buyers from coming here to buy. We have a heavily trafficked "discussion only" Facebook group with a wonderful group of members - some of whom are active forum members - and they are constantly telling folks that the forum is the right place if they want to buy and sell. My point is sending an active buyer away from the forum with his tail between his legs is not a good look - and in the long run not fair for our sellers?
) on the subject... we don't want to discourage buyers from coming here to buy. We have a heavily trafficked "discussion only" Facebook group with a wonderful group of members - some of whom are active forum members - and they are constantly telling folks that the forum is the right place if they want to buy and sell. My point is sending an active buyer away from the forum with his tail between his legs is not a good look - and in the long run not fair for our sellers?
). Had he not attempted to make a lowball offer on Stephan's slabs, I would have just let it go. To me, that would have been insulting, since he had such a rock bottom price on them to begin with.
