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Post by stephan on Dec 19, 2020 22:33:22 GMT -5
If you ever hound any like this, I'd love to see pics if you can/will. I think this rock is an amazingly beautiful stunner!  See how much interest your rock is producing NevadaBill ? I'm so glad you posted these pics! I doubt it, too. I’d say its your basic, albeit gorgeous, jasper. How come I can't find any "basic" jasper out here that looks like that! LOL Same reason we can't find Fairburns here. While rocks are migratory, they seem to have trouble with mountain ranges. Still waiting on that swallow to grip it by the husk.... |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 19, 2020 22:40:14 GMT -5
If you ever hound any like this, I'd love to see pics if you can/will. I think this rock is an amazingly beautiful stunner! See how much interest your rock is producing NevadaBill ? I'm so glad you posted these pics! I doubt it, too. I’d say its your basic, albeit gorgeous, jasper. How come I can't find any "basic" jasper out here that looks like that! LOL Jason, I'm sure I have some of those on the patio right now, but I should have some pics in the computer. Will take a look tomorrow when I turn it on. Will be faster and much cleaner (for me) looking through photo files in the computer, than looking for the real rocks in my disorganized hoard. I'll come up with something to show you. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 19, 2020 22:45:33 GMT -5
If you ever hound any like this, I'd love to see pics if you can/will. I think this rock is an amazingly beautiful stunner! See how much interest your rock is producing NevadaBill ? I'm so glad you posted these pics! How come I can't find any "basic" jasper out here that looks like that! LOL Same reason we can't find Fairburns here. While rocks are migratory, they seem to have trouble with mountain ranges. Still waiting on that swallow to grip it by the husk.... You make a very valid point...rocks migrate...coconuts do not...  It was more just a "whiny" comment on my part...bemoaning the fact those beauties aren't located out here. But, you also pointed out Fairburns ARE located out here, and for that I am VERY grateful...in fact so grateful, I will probably go out hounding tomorrow and look for a few "down by the river"! (I can't say that without thinking of this: |
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 19, 2020 22:49:16 GMT -5
If you ever hound any like this, I'd love to see pics if you can/will. I think this rock is an amazingly beautiful stunner! See how much interest your rock is producing NevadaBill ? I'm so glad you posted these pics! How come I can't find any "basic" jasper out here that looks like that! LOL Jason, I'm sure I have some of those on the patio right now, but I should have some pics in the computer. Will take a look tomorrow when I turn it on. Will be faster and much cleaner (for me) looking through photo files in the computer, than looking for the real rocks in my disorganized hoard. I'll come up with something to show you. I'll "owe you one" for this! I don't know why I find that type of rock just utterly stunning! I suppose it's like some prairie agates which have some spectacular surface banding that really catch my eye. In fact, I found a really special one a couple weeks ago and I haven't posted pics of it yet. I should see if I can get a couple pics of that tomorrow... |
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Post by RWA3006 on Dec 20, 2020 11:20:07 GMT -5
NevadaBill that last rock of yours is interesting. I'm afraid I couldn't resist cutting it to see what's inside. rockpickerforever I doubt it's coprolite also. It just does not look like any coprolite I've seen.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 20, 2020 23:47:43 GMT -5
Jason, I'm sure I have some of those on the patio right now, but I should have some pics in the computer. Will take a look tomorrow when I turn it on. Will be faster and much cleaner (for me) looking through photo files in the computer, than looking for the real rocks in my disorganized hoard. I'll come up with something to show you. I'll "owe you one" for this! I don't know why I find that type of rock just utterly stunning! I suppose it's like some prairie agates which have some spectacular surface banding that really catch my eye. In fact, I found a really special one a couple weeks ago and I haven't posted pics of it yet. I should see if I can get a couple pics of that tomorrow... Jason, I spent hours searching through thousands of photo files on my computer today, and only came up with one photo:
I know that I have found many more than this, and they look more like the photo NevadaBill posted than this one! Perhaps I felt they were so common that I didn't bother taking pics of them?
After looking through the computer, I started digging into actual rocks on my patio. I just scratched the surface of my hoard today, but did come up with two more.
I have set them aside, and will get pics tomorrow. I think I recall cabbing one even, so will have to take a look at my cabbed rocks. More tomorrow, hopefully!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 20, 2020 23:56:27 GMT -5
I'll "owe you one" for this! I don't know why I find that type of rock just utterly stunning! I suppose it's like some prairie agates which have some spectacular surface banding that really catch my eye. In fact, I found a really special one a couple weeks ago and I haven't posted pics of it yet. I should see if I can get a couple pics of that tomorrow... Jason, I spent hours searching through thousands of photo files on my computer today, and only came up with one photo:
I know that I have found many more than this, and they look more like the photo NevadaBill posted than this one! Perhaps I felt they were so common that I didn't bother taking pics of them?
After looking through the computer, I started digging into actual rocks on my patio. I just scratched the surface of my hoard today, but did come up with two more.
I have set them aside, and will get pics tomorrow. I think I recall cabbing one even, so will have to take a look at my cabbed rocks. More tomorrow, hopefully!
Oh my gosh! You really went over and above spending hours looking for a picture! Now I feel really guilty! Especially when you hear I was out hounding today! (Really Really feeling guilty!!!) But...I may have found something really special today. I won't know for sure for a few days. But I'm going to find out and I'll post pictures and an explanation once I do. I've been messaging miket about it, if that gives you a hint about what it MIGHT be... Seriously, thank you for taking that much time for me! I really really owe you now!  Edit - that pic of yours really is close to his, isn't it?!? |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 21, 2020 0:17:36 GMT -5
Yes, this one is close to what NevadaBill posted, but I know I have found ones that look exactly like what he posted. I guess I must have felt they were nothing special, so did not take photos of them... I know I have found them. I only skimmed the top of my hoard, I'm sure they are out there! No problem on the time spent, Jason. I thoroughly enjoyed looking through old photos, then rockhounding on the patio, lol. Besides it kept me busy so I did not spend time doing things I should be doing... Fun things always find their way to the top of my to do list. I am glad you were able to get out today, and happy you found something special. Can't wait to see pics of it! |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 21, 2020 0:18:25 GMT -5
NO GUILT!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 23, 2020 18:23:03 GMT -5
So, I mentioned I had found something kinda neat/special. After talking with miket via messages, quite a bit of research, and a bit of assuming, I figured out what this was. This is a 19.2 pound Fairburn Signer. This is different than a Fairburn Agate. Essentially it "wanted" to be a Fairburn Agate, but just didn't make it. This is beyond HUGE for a Fairburn Signer! I just about fainted when I found this. This is huge! There is banding all over the outside of this rock. Did I mention this is huge? The farmer had moved large rocks into the river to act like eddies. There's probably eight or ten eddies right where I always park my truck. I had never really looked at any of the large rocks because Fairburn Agates are "never" that big...and that is my main goal while going hounding down there. I found some amazingly large pieces of petrified wood in one of those eddies, so decided to look at all the "boulders". Well, this beast was right by where I always park my truck. I've probably walked past it twenty times or more! Sheesh! During the research of Signers, I read a post from jakesrocks (he was the Fairburn Agate guru, may he rest in peace) where he stated there was a small chance that a Fairburn Signer might contain Fairburn Agate on the inside of the rock. If this gets cut, and there's nothing inside, then I've lost a 19.2 pound Fairburn Signer. If I don't cut it, I'll never know if it has Fairburn Agate inside. After much deliberation and debating with my own thoughts and getting input from friends (Mike!) and family, I bit the bullet and sliced the beast! The Signer banding does go inward, but so far there is no sign of being Fairburn Agate on the interior. This rock is VERY brittle and is losing little chunks with every slice. It's not worth trying to stabilize. I've only taken off two chunks and tried to take one more slab off one cut section. There's a lot more banding around the exterior that will eventually get cut off to see if there's Fairburn Agate anywhere else in the interior...but nothing as of yet. Anyway, here's some pics of the exterior banding and then the cut section with interior banding...            |
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Post by miket on Dec 23, 2020 18:43:12 GMT -5
Still a beauty!
Whether its a signer or not is more than I know, but the banding is spectacular!
A great find for sure!
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Dec 23, 2020 22:17:31 GMT -5
And I didn't even have to tell you to cut it! It's a fabulous find -- no matter what. Great hounding, Jason!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 24, 2020 0:26:32 GMT -5
Still a beauty! Whether its a signer or not is more than I know, but the banding is spectacular! A great find for sure! I'm tempted to get some stabilizer for a couple slabs at least and see what happens. It's too big of a rock to try and stabilize the whole thing, but I'd like to see if I can make a couple cabs out of some of the interior banding. I agree it's pretty spectacular banding in there.
And I didn't even have to tell you to cut it! It's a fabulous find -- no matter what. Great hounding, Jason!
Thanks Robin! I won't lie...I really was torn all to pieces inside debating this one! I'm definitely hoping there's going to be some more interior banding, but I'm going to have to figure out how to get to it...might need a bigger saw! LOL |
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 24, 2020 7:48:31 GMT -5
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Dec 24, 2020 9:42:29 GMT -5
And just like that, kind of like osmosis, you can recognize pet wood when you see it!
Nice pieces, too. That second one looks like it has some really nice coloring.
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 24, 2020 12:27:01 GMT -5
And just like that, kind of like osmosis, you can recognize pet wood when you see it!
Nice pieces, too. That second one looks like it has some really nice coloring.
Well...these are the ones that actually look like wood! LOL - It's the stuff that isn't brown and wood-grained that I have trouble identifying as pet wood. |
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Post by stephan on Dec 24, 2020 14:55:13 GMT -5
Still a beauty! Whether its a signer or not is more than I know, but the banding is spectacular! A great find for sure! I'm tempted to get some stabilizer for a couple slabs at least and see what happens. It's too big of a rock to try and stabilize the whole thing, but I'd like to see if I can make a couple cabs out of some of the interior banding. I agree it's pretty spectacular banding in there.
And I didn't even have to tell you to cut it! It's a fabulous find -- no matter what. Great hounding, Jason!
Thanks Robin! I won't lie...I really was torn all to pieces inside debating this one! I'm definitely hoping there's going to be some more interior banding, but I'm going to have to figure out how to get to it...might need a bigger saw! LOL From a technical perspective, I'm not sure that a rock is ever really "too big" for stabilizing. Most skeletons in museums probably are. That's how PaleoBond was developed. Now, if we're talking practical: whether you want to invest the time, money and energy that would be involved is another question.  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 24, 2020 22:48:55 GMT -5
I'm tempted to get some stabilizer for a couple slabs at least and see what happens. It's too big of a rock to try and stabilize the whole thing, but I'd like to see if I can make a couple cabs out of some of the interior banding. I agree it's pretty spectacular banding in there. Thanks Robin! I won't lie...I really was torn all to pieces inside debating this one! I'm definitely hoping there's going to be some more interior banding, but I'm going to have to figure out how to get to it...might need a bigger saw! LOL From a technical perspective, I'm not sure that a rock is ever really "too big" for stabilizing. Most skeletons in museums probably are. That's how PaleoBond was developed. Now, if we're talking practical: whether you want to invest the time, money and energy that would be involved is another question.  I think my use of the words "too big" was more in reference to the size of the rock versus the size of what I want to let go in my wallet! LOL |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Dec 25, 2020 16:53:13 GMT -5
Jason, jasoninsd I located the cab I had cut using one of those red rocks with the gray stripey pattern. My DH had used it for one of his first attempts at wire wrapping. He called it "Blue-eyed Bug," and I still have it. (So a new photo, taken today.)
Front side, top is to right 
Back side
Another of those rocks, still round.
Reverse side.
And had this been rolled in a creek for a while, I suspect it would look like the one above.
Another view.
Final view.
I believe this would need to be ground round first, differential hardnesses would cause severe undercutting.
I'm sure while going through boxes and buckets on the patio when I next clean up and re-organize, more of them will turn up. But I will keep my eye open for them out in the wild, and bring 'em home.
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 25, 2020 21:32:49 GMT -5
Jason, jasoninsd I located the cab I had cut using one of those red rocks with the gray stripey pattern. My DH had used it for one of his first attempts at wire wrapping. He called it "Blue-eyed Bug," and I still have it. (So a new photo, taken today.)
Front side, top is to right
Back side
Another of those rocks, still round.
Reverse side.
And had this been rolled in a creek for a while, I suspect it would look like the one above.
Another view.
Final view.
I believe this would need to be ground round first, differential hardnesses would cause severe undercutting.
I'm sure while going through boxes and buckets on the patio when I next clean up and re-organize, more of them will turn up. But I will keep my eye open for them out in the wild, and bring 'em home.
My eyes were buggin' out looking at that cab! It's gorgeous! Sure as heck, those are the same type of rock! Seeing the two different styles (nature-tumbled vs. not) of the same type of rock is absolutely fascinating! Both of them look amazing! Seriously, thank you so much for taking the time to post these pics, and to find that cab! |
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