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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 20, 2021 23:12:20 GMT -5
I was able to find a little information on kaleidoscope stone and a lot of very unhelpful information. The most helpful information comes from the Fred Haynes website ( fredmhaynes.com/2019/02/18/kaleidoscope-jasper-or-is-it/). That website states that it is a hydrothermal vein deposit rather than jasper. Essentially, he states that it is a type of fluorite with copper material (chrysocolla, malachite, azurite) contained within it. It is certainly interesting how those copper-based materials are incorporated into the fluorite. This conclusion fits an earlier thread here ( forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/82231/kaleidoscope-agate). Great example of a circular reference leading us right back here! LOL Thanks for sharing both links. I remember seeing the one on here a couple months ago when I first started looking into this stuff. I find it amazing there just isn't a lot of information out there (at least online) about this material... Jason, I took a quick look online for Kaleidoscope Jasper, and found this article on Mindat - Kaleidoscope JasperI have some I picked up at a local sale a few years ago, but it's nothing like those pictures here! Hope this information is helpful to you.
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Post by stephan on Jan 20, 2021 23:58:47 GMT -5
Great example of a circular reference leading us right back here! LOL Thanks for sharing both links. I remember seeing the one on here a couple months ago when I first started looking into this stuff. I find it amazing there just isn't a lot of information out there (at least online) about this material... Jason, I took a quick look online for Kaleidoscope Jasper, and found this article on Mindat - Kaleidoscope JasperI have some I picked up at a local sale a few years ago, but it's nothing like those pictures here! Hope this information is helpful to you. I believe, from an earlier thread, that kaleidoscope jasper is an entirely different beast
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 21, 2021 0:48:44 GMT -5
Great example of a circular reference leading us right back here! LOL Thanks for sharing both links. I remember seeing the one on here a couple months ago when I first started looking into this stuff. I find it amazing there just isn't a lot of information out there (at least online) about this material... Jason, I took a quick look online for Kaleidoscope Jasper, and found this article on Mindat - Kaleidoscope JasperI have some I picked up at a local sale a few years ago, but it's nothing like those pictures here! Hope this information is helpful to you. stephan is correct. Kaleidoscope Prism Stone is totally different than Kaleidoscope Jasper...but in my research for the prism stone, I ran across the jasper...and now there's ANOTHER that's getting added to the "I'm going to get one of these days" list! LOL Thank you so much for posting that link. That's a killer piece of jasper they've got a picture of at the top of that webpage!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 21, 2021 0:49:53 GMT -5
Stephan, I tend to agree with you. Although, it seems they are using the terms agate and jasper interchangeably?
So, is it your opinion that the Kalaidoscope Prism Stone is an entirely different animal? I must admit that the Kalaidoscope "Jasper" that I have does not seem to have any flourite in it.
It seems they are saying the K agate is from Utah, the K jasper from Oregon? Yet the descriptions can go either way.
That is the nature of lapidary material names, it's just the whim of the miner/seller.
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Post by stephan on Jan 21, 2021 1:02:55 GMT -5
Stephan, I tend to agree with you. Although, it seems they are using the terms agate and jasper interchangeably? So, is it your opinion that the Kalaidoscope Prism Stone is an entirely different animal? I must admit that the Kalaidoscope "Jasper" that I have does not seem to have any flourite in it. It seems they are saying the K agate is from Utah, the K jasper from Oregon? Yet the descriptions can go either way. That is the nature of lapidary material names, it's just the whim of the miner/seller. Yep, they appear to be different. The k-jasper seems like colorful Gary Green: it’s jasper... no, wait... jasperized wood... no, wait... silicified clay... hold on...., whereas the kp Stone, they admit it’s a mess, and it may contain one or more of the following... partially hydrogenated sunflower oil and/or.... Mainly, though, I’m going by locality and hardness. KJ, being from Oregon is probably 7+. The naming of lapidary material is a constant source of amusement, confusion and/or irritation (the latter, apparently, if you work for mindat.org, or post on their board ). jasoninsd yep, two more for the list. D’oh! It’s not getting any shorter....
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Post by miket on Jan 21, 2021 15:15:44 GMT -5
Just saw this thread, nice work Jason! I really like those pics of the slabs, the colors are outstanding...
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 21, 2021 16:24:52 GMT -5
Just saw this thread, nice work Jason! I really like those pics of the slabs, the colors are outstanding... Thanks Mike! I have four more that are dopped up right now. I'll likely finish those in the next couple days. I don't know yet when I'll go after that slab just yet, but I agree there are some beautiful colors in those slabs. I really like the overtly turquoise/green tones in these cabs. Those other slabs seem to be predominantly purple.
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Post by jasperfanatic on Jan 21, 2021 16:53:10 GMT -5
Great job! I agree with the others, you've levelled up quickly
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Post by swaver101 on Jan 21, 2021 19:47:32 GMT -5
I have a a few pounds of this stuff. It looks really nice! But it's very soft, brittle, and a bit frustrating to work with, as it also pits easily. Unfortunately a big chunk of the cabs I have made of it, have cracked, chipped, or broke.. Most have been wrapped and sold here are some photos of a couple I still have. The coffin and the triangle have been glued back together with Opticon.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 21, 2021 23:16:59 GMT -5
Great job! I agree with the others, you've levelled up quickly Thank you so much! I appreciate the compliment. I know I've got a long ways to go, but I really am enjoying learning the stuff along the way. I have a a few pounds of this stuff. It looks really nice! But it's very soft, brittle, and a bit frustrating to work with, as it also pits easily. Unfortunately a big chunk of the cabs I have made of it, have cracked, chipped, or broke.. Most have been wrapped and sold here are some photos of a couple I still have. The coffin and the triangle have been glued back together with Opticon. Thanks for posting the pics! That's my concern over the other two slabs I've got. I was really looking it over earlier today and it "looks" like it might be solid...but we all know how looks can be deceiving! I believe this stuff can be stabilized, and that may be the right way to approach this on the other two slabs.
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