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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 12:29:31 GMT -5
So, a super special thank you going out to John ( lpl) for providing this AMAZING material! This Kaleidoscope Prism Stone is just a beautiful mix of Flourite, Opal, Malachite, Chrysocolla, Amethyst, Agate, and Cuprite. Not every stone contains all those elements, but can have a hodge-podge of them. This was a super fun material to work. It's super soft. The different materials did create some very slight undercutting, but VERY slight. This material was not stabilized. John sent me two slabs, one thicker than the other. These are from the thicker of the two slabs. I'll work on the others very soon as they're already dopped! LOL I did remember to bevel the lower edge this time! LOL Thanks for taking a gander and as always critiques are welcomed.        |
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Post by Brian on Jan 20, 2021 13:09:57 GMT -5
Beautiful material! I love those intense blues and greens coming through.
Do you have any before shots of the slabs?
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 13:24:25 GMT -5
Beautiful material! I love those intense blues and greens coming through. Do you have any before shots of the slabs? Thanks Brian! I don't have any "before" shots. I have all the preforms already cut out and dopped. I do have another slab of the material, if you want to see what that one looks like, or if you want me to post pics of the ones that are dopped, I can do that. I did take a couple pics last night while these were still dopped because I wanted to ask John a question before I removed them from the dop sticks. By the way, my new dop "sticks" are 3/8" welding rod that I cut to 3" lengths. I like the diameter of the rod and now I can get the cabs off dop easier using a blow torch... The last couple weeks I've taken advantage of some unseasonal decent weather and slabbed a ton and then cut at least a couple hundred plus preforms of a bunch of different material. If the weather hits like it normally does, I can't do anything with the wet saws outside...and I don't want to run them in the unheated garage. So, basically I "stock-piled" a lot of what I want to work on this winter. I can run the slant cabber out in the garage with a space heater pointed at me, but the wet saws are a nay-nay. I tried using the wet tile saws outside one morning and the mist that was getting created started freezing on the saw...so I'm a bit more cautious now with temps... That was probably way more information than you were wanting/needing/counting on... LOL |
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Post by Brian on Jan 20, 2021 13:38:37 GMT -5
Beautiful material! I love those intense blues and greens coming through. Do you have any before shots of the slabs? Thanks Brian! I don't have any "before" shots. I have all the preforms already cut out and dopped. I do have another slab of the material, if you want to see what that one looks like, or if you want me to post pics of the ones that are dopped, I can do that. I did take a couple pics last night while these were still dopped because I wanted to ask John a question before I removed them from the dop sticks. By the way, my new dop "sticks" are 3/8" welding rod that I cut to 3" lengths. I like the diameter of the rod and now I can get the cabs off dop easier using a blow torch... The last couple weeks I've taken advantage of some unseasonal decent weather and slabbed a ton and then cut at least a couple hundred plus preforms of a bunch of different material. If the weather hits like it normally does, I can't do anything with the wet saws outside...and I don't want to run them in the unheated garage. So, basically I "stock-piled" a lot of what I want to work on this winter. I can run the slant cabber out in the garage with a space heater pointed at me, but the wet saws are a nay-nay. I tried using the wet tile saws outside one morning and the mist that was getting created started freezing on the saw...so I'm a bit more cautious now with temps... That was probably way more information than you were wanting/needing/counting on... LOL Thanks! I am never one to complain about getting too much information in response to a question. Unless it veers off into that awkward territory, that is. 😳 I can’t imagine even trying to work with water in the cold. I’ve been itching to get my tile saw out to cut up a few larger rocks, but that will have to wait until warmer weather. It doesn’t help that that saw provides a free shower with every use. I was curious to see how you selected the shapes based on the appearance of the slab and if/how the colors come out with the shaping of the cabs. Then again, part of the beauty of that material is the contrast between the different colors and components. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 13:46:45 GMT -5
Thanks Brian! I don't have any "before" shots. I have all the preforms already cut out and dopped. I do have another slab of the material, if you want to see what that one looks like, or if you want me to post pics of the ones that are dopped, I can do that. I did take a couple pics last night while these were still dopped because I wanted to ask John a question before I removed them from the dop sticks. By the way, my new dop "sticks" are 3/8" welding rod that I cut to 3" lengths. I like the diameter of the rod and now I can get the cabs off dop easier using a blow torch... The last couple weeks I've taken advantage of some unseasonal decent weather and slabbed a ton and then cut at least a couple hundred plus preforms of a bunch of different material. If the weather hits like it normally does, I can't do anything with the wet saws outside...and I don't want to run them in the unheated garage. So, basically I "stock-piled" a lot of what I want to work on this winter. I can run the slant cabber out in the garage with a space heater pointed at me, but the wet saws are a nay-nay. I tried using the wet tile saws outside one morning and the mist that was getting created started freezing on the saw...so I'm a bit more cautious now with temps... That was probably way more information than you were wanting/needing/counting on... LOL Thanks! I am never one to complain about getting too much information in response to a question. Unless it veers off into that awkward territory, that is. 😳 I can’t imagine even trying to work with water in the cold. I’ve been itching to get my tile saw out to cut up a few larger rocks, but that will have to wait until warmer weather. It doesn’t help that that saw provides a free shower with every use. I was curious to see how you selected the shapes based on the appearance of the slab and if/how the colors come out with the shaping of the cabs. Then again, part of the beauty of that material is the contrast between the different colors and components. Flat out, with these particular slabs, the material was provided as "practice" material as I have another slab that I purchased awhile back. John knew I had a few trepidations with regards to working it, so he sent me some additional material. With it being "practice" material, I tried to get as many shapes out of the slabs themselves and didn't worry too awfully much about what colors went where. In fact, I even saved the material that was cut between the shapes I chose and have a couple additional "free-forms" now to work with...no waste! LOL However with this material, the colors and materials are all over the place with no real pattern to them...I don't think you could go wrong with wherever you plopped down the template.  |
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Post by lpl on Jan 20, 2021 14:33:23 GMT -5
You are definitely doing the material justice! They look great Jason!
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 14:52:07 GMT -5
You are definitely doing the material justice! They look great Jason! Thanks John! Truly that means a lot to me coming from you. |
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Post by Brian on Jan 20, 2021 15:10:50 GMT -5
Thanks! I am never one to complain about getting too much information in response to a question. Unless it veers off into that awkward territory, that is. 😳 I can’t imagine even trying to work with water in the cold. I’ve been itching to get my tile saw out to cut up a few larger rocks, but that will have to wait until warmer weather. It doesn’t help that that saw provides a free shower with every use. I was curious to see how you selected the shapes based on the appearance of the slab and if/how the colors come out with the shaping of the cabs. Then again, part of the beauty of that material is the contrast between the different colors and components. Flat out, with these particular slabs, the material was provided as "practice" material as I have another slab that I purchased awhile back. John knew I had a few trepidations with regards to working it, so he sent me some additional material. With it being "practice" material, I tried to get as many shapes out of the slabs themselves and didn't worry too awfully much about what colors went where. In fact, I even saved the material that was cut between the shapes I chose and have a couple additional "free-forms" now to work with...no waste! LOL However with this material, the colors and materials are all over the place with no real pattern to them...I don't think you could go wrong with wherever you plopped down the template. Not bad at all for practice material! The results are fantastic! That material really demands attention. I find myself focusing at many different points where the colors peak through. Very cool stuff! |
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Post by NDK on Jan 20, 2021 15:17:05 GMT -5
Ohhhh shiny rocks 😁
Well done!
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 15:18:43 GMT -5
Flat out, with these particular slabs, the material was provided as "practice" material as I have another slab that I purchased awhile back. John knew I had a few trepidations with regards to working it, so he sent me some additional material. With it being "practice" material, I tried to get as many shapes out of the slabs themselves and didn't worry too awfully much about what colors went where. In fact, I even saved the material that was cut between the shapes I chose and have a couple additional "free-forms" now to work with...no waste! LOL However with this material, the colors and materials are all over the place with no real pattern to them...I don't think you could go wrong with wherever you plopped down the template. Not bad at all for practice material! The results are fantastic! That material really demands attention. I find myself focusing at many different points where the colors peak through. Very cool stuff! Thanks again. I've been enamored with this material ever since I first saw it. Here's pics of the slab and a half I haven't cut or marked up yet. The smaller piece is an end cut. I haven't worked any cabs off and end cut yet, so this one might wait awhile. There's more purple than green in these (obviously LOL).   |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 15:21:28 GMT -5
Ohhhh shiny rocks 😁 Well done! Thanks Nate! I feel like Jeremy from the Rats of Nimh when I look at this stuff! LOL |
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Post by Brian on Jan 20, 2021 16:33:57 GMT -5
Not bad at all for practice material! The results are fantastic! That material really demands attention. I find myself focusing at many different points where the colors peak through. Very cool stuff! Thanks again. I've been enamored with this material ever since I first saw it. Here's pics of the slab and a half I haven't cut or marked up yet. The smaller piece is an end cut. I haven't worked any cabs off and end cut yet, so this one might wait awhile. There's more purple than green in these (obviously LOL). That is beautiful stuff! I’m a sucker for pretty colors. I love the blues coming through on the bottom right. Now I need to do some reading to see if I can learn how that is formed... |
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Post by stephan on Jan 20, 2021 18:35:01 GMT -5
Great! Another one to add to the list.
Nice work on those pieces. Great color and patterns. I doesn’t look like it would hold up as well as it did. It seems you’ve mastered the light touch.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 20, 2021 18:58:48 GMT -5
Very nice! Smooth job on some tough material to work with. You are doing so well- hard to believe you just started cabbing.
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Post by lpl on Jan 20, 2021 19:07:04 GMT -5
Those two slabs you have there are going to make some fantastic cabs Jason!
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 20:29:20 GMT -5
Thanks again. I've been enamored with this material ever since I first saw it. Here's pics of the slab and a half I haven't cut or marked up yet. The smaller piece is an end cut. I haven't worked any cabs off and end cut yet, so this one might wait awhile. There's more purple than green in these (obviously LOL). That is beautiful stuff! I’m a sucker for pretty colors. I love the blues coming through on the bottom right. Now I need to do some reading to see if I can learn how that is formed... I tried to do some searching on it, but I wasn't able to find a ton of information about this stuff. Most of the searching I did just brought up sellers of the stuff. If you find something, please let me know what you find out. If we can't find anything , we might have to pull in the "big gun" and tag 1dave to see what info he might have on it... Great! Another one to add to the list. Nice work on those pieces. Great color and patterns. I doesn’t look like it would hold up as well as it did. It seems you’ve mastered the light touch. Thanks Stephan! I know right!?! My list keeps getting longer and longer too! LOL - I would say I "lucked out" with the light touch on these...we'll see how the other cabs go!  Very nice! Smooth job on some tough material to work with. You are doing so well- hard to believe you just started cabbing. Thanks Tela! Don't worry, I still need to post some pictures of some cabs I did the other night that would "prove" I'm still in my cabbing infancy! LOL Those two slabs you have there are going to make some fantastic cabs Jason! Well if it hadn't been for you, I would have shelved the whole idea of working with this material for quite awhile longer! |
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Post by Brian on Jan 20, 2021 21:14:27 GMT -5
That is beautiful stuff! I’m a sucker for pretty colors. I love the blues coming through on the bottom right. Now I need to do some reading to see if I can learn how that is formed... I tried to do some searching on it, but I wasn't able to find a ton of information about this stuff. Most of the searching I did just brought up sellers of the stuff. If you find something, please let me know what you find out. If we can't find anything , we might have to pull in the "big gun" and tag 1dave to see what info he might have on it... I was able to find a little information on kaleidoscope stone and a lot of very unhelpful information. The most helpful information comes from the Fred Haynes website ( fredmhaynes.com/2019/02/18/kaleidoscope-jasper-or-is-it/). That website states that it is a hydrothermal vein deposit rather than jasper. Essentially, he states that it is a type of fluorite with copper material (chrysocolla, malachite, azurite) contained within it. It is certainly interesting how those copper-based materials are incorporated into the fluorite. This conclusion fits an earlier thread here ( forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/82231/kaleidoscope-agate). |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 21:27:27 GMT -5
I tried to do some searching on it, but I wasn't able to find a ton of information about this stuff. Most of the searching I did just brought up sellers of the stuff. If you find something, please let me know what you find out. If we can't find anything , we might have to pull in the "big gun" and tag 1dave to see what info he might have on it... I was able to find a little information on kaleidoscope stone and a lot of very unhelpful information. The most helpful information comes from the Fred Haynes website ( fredmhaynes.com/2019/02/18/kaleidoscope-jasper-or-is-it/). That website states that it is a hydrothermal vein deposit rather than jasper. Essentially, he states that it is a type of fluorite with copper material (chrysocolla, malachite, azurite) contained within it. It is certainly interesting how those copper-based materials are incorporated into the fluorite. This conclusion fits an earlier thread here ( forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/82231/kaleidoscope-agate). Great example of a circular reference leading us right back here! LOL Thanks for sharing both links. I remember seeing the one on here a couple months ago when I first started looking into this stuff. I find it amazing there just isn't a lot of information out there (at least online) about this material... |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 20, 2021 21:33:45 GMT -5
Nice job on those, Jason!
It is difficult material to work and Tela's right, it's hard to believe you just started cabbing.  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 20, 2021 21:51:50 GMT -5
Nice job on those, Jason!
It is difficult material to work and Tela's right, it's hard to believe you just started cabbing.  Thanks Robin! Right under three months cabbing and around 75 (or so) cabs...a long ways left to go to get where I want to get with this. I think I may have lucked out with this piece of material. It was definitely soft, but it didn't seem like it was going to be prone to fractures. The other two slabs I have look like they may be a bit more prone to fracturing, so I've definitely got to be even more careful than I was with this slab. |
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