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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 1, 2021 1:36:58 GMT -5
I'm not real pleased with the results on this wrap, but I'm posting it anyway! LOL It was really apparent this can was not shaped evenly at all. Granted, this was among some of the first cabs I did...but it's a good lesson on keeping things symmetrical!  I can see the wrap is not snug along the bottom edges - it's slightly off center at the bottom. I may rewrap this at some point. I know I need to take precise measurements and bend at those points as opposed to trying to bend it to the corners and going from there. I liked the style of this one though.  As always, thanks for taking a gander and critiques and comments are always welcomed.  |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 1, 2021 9:57:13 GMT -5
When a stone has as many corners as this one does, I would probably do binding wires on each side of each corner -- say 3 turns each to hold the angle shape better. Then you can slightly pull the wires on the flats where you want to hold the cab. The pulls don't have to be very big; just enough to hold the cab in place is enough unless you want bigger pulls as a design feature. That's all a personal preference thing as you develop your own style.
This wrap isn't bad, but for my taste there's too much twisted wire. Less is more for me, so that's just my personal opinion. Kudos for taking this one on. That is not an easy shape for anyone to wrap! 
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 1, 2021 10:09:18 GMT -5
When a stone has as many corners as this one does, I would probably do binding wires on each side of each corner -- say 3 turns each to hold the angle shape better. Then you can slightly pull the wires on the flats where you want to hold the cab. The pulls don't have to be very big; just enough to hold the cab in place is enough unless you want bigger pulls as a design feature. That's all a personal preference thing as you develop your own style.
This wrap isn't bad, but for my taste there's too much twisted wire. Less is more for me, so that's just my personal opinion. Kudos for taking this one on. That is not an easy shape for anyone to wrap!
Thanks Robin! I see what you're saying about how to do the corners. That makes sense. I have to figure out a couple ways to do the bail area differently. I do a lot of "swoops"! LOL |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 1, 2021 10:24:16 GMT -5
When a stone has as many corners as this one does, I would probably do binding wires on each side of each corner -- say 3 turns each to hold the angle shape better. Then you can slightly pull the wires on the flats where you want to hold the cab. The pulls don't have to be very big; just enough to hold the cab in place is enough unless you want bigger pulls as a design feature. That's all a personal preference thing as you develop your own style.
This wrap isn't bad, but for my taste there's too much twisted wire. Less is more for me, so that's just my personal opinion. Kudos for taking this one on. That is not an easy shape for anyone to wrap!
Thanks Robin! I see what you're saying about how to do the corners. That makes sense. I have to figure out a couple ways to do the bail area differently. I do a lot of "swoops"! LOL You could leave the bail just bare wire and make a rabbit ear bail instead. Just wrap enough wire around the bottom to secure it. You could also learn how to weave the bail instead. rockjunquie did a really nice tutorial on how to do one here. The beauty of woven bails is that it's enough bling that you don't have to make any more embellishments if you don't want to. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 1, 2021 13:26:06 GMT -5
I think you did a good job! You got it nice and snug which is something I, personally, like to see. The corners look awesome.
I think less is more, too. But, like Robin says, it's a personal taste thing.
I love working with lots of angles on a cut. Don't know why, but they are my favs.
I agree with Robin about the corners. The way you made the locking wires on the corners takes away from the shape which is a nice feature of the cab. You can bind close to the corners then turn the locking wire in just a little between the bindings.
As for the woven bail... my tute is how I do it, but I also do it where I don't weave down the back, but tie the ends down closer to the bail. Either way. Yes, a nice bail adds a lot to a wrap. Plus, having one wire (or a single wrapped bundle) for a bail pulls the chain down straight. If you have bunny ears or a wider bail (woven) the weight is more distributed which looks nicer and doesn't wear the chain as much.
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Post by MsAli on Mar 1, 2021 13:39:56 GMT -5
Not a bad job, but agree less is more. To much at the bail IMO takes away from the stone, which should be the show case of any pendant
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 1, 2021 22:56:01 GMT -5
Thanks Robin! I see what you're saying about how to do the corners. That makes sense. I have to figure out a couple ways to do the bail area differently. I do a lot of "swoops"! LOL You could leave the bail just bare wire and make a rabbit ear bail instead. Just wrap enough wire around the bottom to secure it. You could also learn how to weave the bail instead. rockjunquie did a really nice tutorial on how to do one here. The beauty of woven bails is that it's enough bling that you don't have to make any more embellishments if you don't want to. I've seen the rabbit ear bails, but I haven't run across how to do them yet! LOL Thanks for sending me the link to Tela's tutorial. I did see that one a while ago. However, I tried doing a weave wrap and it looked like a massive rats nest! LOL - So, I haven't tried it again just yet. (Granted I tried it for my second wrap ever...). I like it so I'll have to try it again. I think you did a good job! You got it nice and snug which is something I, personally, like to see. The corners look awesome.
I think less is more, too. But, like Robin says, it's a personal taste thing.
I love working with lots of angles on a cut. Don't know why, but they are my favs.
I agree with Robin about the corners. The way you made the locking wires on the corners takes away from the shape which is a nice feature of the cab. You can bind close to the corners then turn the locking wire in just a little between the bindings.
As for the woven bail... my tute is how I do it, but I also do it where I don't weave down the back, but tie the ends down closer to the bail. Either way. Yes, a nice bail adds a lot to a wrap. Plus, having one wire (or a single wrapped bundle) for a bail pulls the chain down straight. If you have bunny ears or a wider bail (woven) the weight is more distributed which looks nicer and doesn't wear the chain as much.
Thanks Tela! I'll be working on going the route you two have suggested on the corners. Thanks for the advice on the bail size. That wouldn't have occurred to me. Not a bad job, but agree less is more. To much at the bail IMO takes away from the stone, which should be the show case of any pendant Thanks Ali. I think I'm a little excited to be wire wrapping that I'm trying to make it all about the wire - rather than the stone. I'll reign it back once I get over the initial excitement! LOL |
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Post by NevadaBill on Mar 3, 2021 13:18:20 GMT -5
You really took on a challenge with this stone. Wow. I know how hard it must have been to contain this thing with square edges by wire!
Tela gave some great tips for sanding down and polishing some small imperfections or mars that might have been made on the frame during the wrapping process. I wish I had received some advice like this a year ago myself. Because my stuff is loaded with mars even today.
After a while though, your pliers will become like an extension of your own hands, and you will make careful bends and twists, not worrying about any marks that the tools might leave. I am pretty far from this point in my learning though. But still it is something worth working towards.
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 3, 2021 19:40:26 GMT -5
You really took on a challenge with this stone. Wow. I know how hard it must have been to contain this thing with square edges by wire!
Tela gave some great tips for sanding down and polishing some small imperfections or mars that might have been made on the frame during the wrapping process. I wish I had received some advice like this a year ago myself. Because my stuff is loaded with mars even today.
After a while though, your pliers will become like an extension of your own hands, and you will make careful bends and twists, not worrying about any marks that the tools might leave. I am pretty far from this point in my learning though. But still it is something worth working towards.
Thanks Bill! This one was definitely a challenge due to the angles...but one I look forward to tackling again and trying to implement the advice given here. I will also be taking exact measurements to the corners, which should tighten things up a little better on shapes similar to these. |
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