Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 1, 2021 18:28:42 GMT -5
Howdy folks, Had a chance to take a little walk across my shooting buddy's hill where there is an old Amerind campsite. Found several artifacts, a white chert curved knife blade, a small teardrop shaped knife or discarded point blank and an unusual variant of a Kerr Knife ( the largest triangular piece). The larger knife, like more refined Kerr knives, has cortex from the chert nodule on each side right where you'd grip the blade for butchering. Pretty cool fits the fingers perfectly.  DSCN1237artifacts by lonerider652000, on Flickr |
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fishnpinball
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Post by fishnpinball on Mar 1, 2021 19:12:15 GMT -5
Great finds.
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 2, 2021 0:26:04 GMT -5
Thanks for posting these Mel!
I'm absolutely fascinated with artifacts...to know you're holding something in your hands that was held by ancient beings so long ago...
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Post by Garage Rocker on Mar 2, 2021 1:11:29 GMT -5
I imagine it takes a lot of practice to be able to spot artifacts like these. I wonder how many people have gone past something similar and not even known what they are looking at. I'm sure I'm guilty. I grew up on the Ohio River, where KY, WV and OH meet and the Shawnee Tribe was active. There are burial mounds in the city park and I imagine if I had been looking...I probably still wouldn't have anything.  |
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 2, 2021 18:15:59 GMT -5
The frustrating thing about this site is I keep finding square bases of really nicely flaked knives but never a whole one. Some guy 4000 years ago really had some knapping skills bit I guess because he was making the blades so thin, he broke a lot in half. I think my buddy Harley called this flaking error "bending the blade". Sure wish I'd find a whole one sometime because half a blade is like four inches long. These were big ones.
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Post by stefan on May 15, 2021 15:40:10 GMT -5
Still my dream to find ANYTHING knapped by someone in the past. To actually hold it and marvel at the meaning of the tool (most likely the difference between life and death!)
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on May 16, 2021 6:49:02 GMT -5
Yeah, it's almost like finding a little treasures. This area was treaty ground where many tribes over many centuries gathered to mine chert and knap, primarily trade blanks, for easy transport but there are also many campsites here. Most the artifact hunting was done in the 1970's when the place was first developed and the first residents amassed huge collections but erosion and animal activity always exposes a few new finds every year. The Most common material dates back about 4-5000 years as most campsites here were the Pedernales culture, a pre bow and arrow culture.....Mel
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lookatthat
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Post by lookatthat on May 17, 2021 14:04:23 GMT -5
Still my dream to find ANYTHING knapped by someone in the past. To actually hold it and marvel at the meaning of the tool (most likely the difference between life and death!) It is an amazing feeling! I have only found a few flakes this year so far, and even those get me. Three years ago I found an entire cache of stone artifacts (chert pre-forms) and the state archaeologist excavated them (I helped). A paper was supposed to be written up, as intact caches are rare in my area, but if it was ever written, I never saw it.
How did the artifacts get to where I found them? When? What was the weather like? Who left them? More than one person? What did he look like? Was he the person who chipped them? Where did he come from? Where was he going? Why were they left? Was somebody else supposed to pick them up? Questions questions, questions...
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on May 18, 2021 8:06:36 GMT -5
Wow! I've never found a cache in many yeas of hunting but I was in a cafe in Eastern Oregon one time when a guy came in with a rawhide bag full of atlatl dart tips on their little hardwood shafts abut ten inches long, plainly to be used as replacements for lost points in a repeating lance or dart main shaft. He found them in a little cliff shelter in a woodrat nest. Very old stuff . Looked like Paleo points to me and beautifully made of obsidian, jasper and what looked like pet wood. I have a single similar jasper point I found in that same region on the California side while deer hunting but finding about a dozen in their original bag wow, what a find!
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Post by Fossilman on May 20, 2021 9:50:46 GMT -5
Nice finds, always exciting to find old artifacts... So far its Manitoba, Canada - Montana, Oregon, and North Dakota finds..
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Post by mohs on Jun 3, 2021 13:24:09 GMT -5
the city is out digging the front rock yard
putting in new water pipe system
I been looking through the soil for Hohokam arts
i'd post a picture
but haven't found anything, yet
I know that it is plentiful tho
doesn't seem like the Hoho's were the biggest point knappers
being a more of sedentary/agro group
but in the field behind the house
there was an archeological dig
lots of sherds!!
search on...
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