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Post by holajonathan on Sept 11, 2021 11:58:49 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 11, 2021 12:52:14 GMT -5
I've been slabbing 12-15 hours a day for over a week with two slab saws. I managed to gunk up the oil in the 14" saw in one week -- a new record for me. I see no wear on a new 14" MK303 blade after about 100 hour of cutting. Seems like it took about 10 hours of cutting for the sides of the sintered segments to break in and give a good smooth finish, but the blade is now cutting really well. A smart investment thus far. I bought this first one as "old stock leopardskin" from Mexico. Looks more like wildflower rhyolite to me. Opinions anyone? Tommy might have an opinion. Wow, that's a lot of hours slabbing. Glad your new blade is settling in. Agree with your wildflower rhyolite assessment on this one. Slab on!!
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Post by holajonathan on Sept 11, 2021 13:27:02 GMT -5
Wow, that's a lot of hours slabbing. Glad your new blade is settling in. Agree with your wildflower rhyolite assessment on this one. Slab on!! I work from home (out of my pole barn), so I just roll the saws outside on a cart and let them do their thing while I am working inside. All I have to do is step outside every 30-40 minutes to reset them for the next cut. It's a fairly painless process ever since I bought a box of the super thin disposable gloves. I put on a new pair each time I touch the saw to keep the oil off me as much as possible. The saws are actually cutting about 8 hours a day since I'm not hovering over them all the time. But still a lot of cutting. I mistakenly said it is an MK303 blade. It is actually an MK301 blade, the one with the sintered teeth, not a smooth continuous rim. I was worried when I first started cutting with the new blade because it was leaving pretty bad saw marks on every slab. I usually use MK303, and I don't remember those taking very long to break in, but the MK301 took a full day of cutting. After having a bunch of softer slabs with noticeable saw marks, I stuck a big chunk of polish flint in the saw. After a few cuts of that it started making very smooth cuts.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 11, 2021 13:43:33 GMT -5
I work from home (out of my pole barn), so I just roll the saws outside on a cart and let them do their thing while I am working inside. All I have to do is step outside every 30-40 minutes to reset them for the next cut. It's a fairly painless process ever since I bought a box of the super thin disposable gloves. I put on a new pair each time I touch the saw to keep the oil off me as much as possible. The saws are actually cutting about 8 hours a day since I'm not hovering over them all the time. But still a lot of cutting. I mistakenly said it is an MK303 blade. It is actually an MK301 blade, the one with the sintered teeth, not a smooth continuous rim. I was worried when I first started cutting with the new blade because it was leaving pretty bad saw marks on every slab. I usually use MK303, and I don't remember those taking very long to break in, but the MK301 took a full day of cutting. After having a bunch of softer slabs with noticeable saw marks, I stuck a big chunk of polish flint in the saw. After a few cuts of that it started making very smooth cuts. Bad saw marks on a slab, even if it is a nice one I really like, will almost always keep me from purchasing it.
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Post by Tommy on Sept 12, 2021 0:14:58 GMT -5
I bought this first one as "old stock leopardskin" from Mexico. Looks more like wildflower rhyolite to me. Opinions anyone? Tommy might have an opinion. I polished a corner of a slab and it polished well with minimal undercutting. Nothing like the new stock leopardskin I've bought. Well, my opinion is that your piece is a beautiful example of wildflowers rhyolite. Now, in the interest of full disclosure... I have a friend who does (did?) the northern CA gem show circuit selling slabs of many different types of quality rocks. One day I ran into him at a show and he had a bin of a very unusual and colorful orbicular material and it caught my eye so I asked him what it was. He had no idea but he knew it was from Mexico and it was simply labeled "orbicular rhyolite." After studying it we agreed it wasn't leopardskin - the pattern is completely different - and I made the comment that it looked like wildflowers. Anyway, I bought all the slabs he had and a few end pieces he had cut the slabs from and I started cabbing and selling it as wildflowers rhyolite. Every time I'd see him a the next show I would ask if he had cut any more wildflowers and so he started calling it that too and that was that. So all I really know is it is an orbicular rhyolite from Mexico - as is leopardskin - so it's entirely possible that wildflowers is a variant of leopardskin or from the same region. I highly doubt however that it is "old stock" because my friend got it, and later got more for me, from a current mining source.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 12, 2021 6:41:40 GMT -5
Dang...I thought I was putting in the hours cutting here recently...but you're putting me to shame on that one! LOL I am no help on the ID, but I do think that Wild Orbicular Leopard Flower Skin Rhyolite is gorgeous! And definitely need to mention, you got some killer cuts out of those Montana Agates!
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Post by holajonathan on Sept 12, 2021 10:17:10 GMT -5
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 12, 2021 14:27:51 GMT -5
LOL - I wanted to say those were some flat-out unbelievably killer Montana Agates that have some really unusual fortification areas from any other Montana Agate I remember seeing! So, now that makes total sense...because they weren't! LOL
My gawd, those are massive! Killer looking pattern in that flatter of the two! If you would have turned that agate that's covering your face a quarter turn to the left, it would have looked like two eyes and you were using it for a mask! LOL
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Post by perkins17 on Sept 12, 2021 14:53:45 GMT -5
My gosh! What awesome agates! Almost worth keeping for a specimen collection.
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Post by holajonathan on Sept 12, 2021 15:27:44 GMT -5
My gosh! What awesome agates! Almost worth keeping for a specimen collection. I hear ya. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to cut the one in the last photo. The second to last one has already been cut up. (7th photo in my original post)
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Post by holajonathan on Sept 12, 2021 15:29:14 GMT -5
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Post by stephan on Sept 12, 2021 15:45:32 GMT -5
Some cool stuff in both sets of pics. Massive ones in the second set. Pretty amazing.
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Post by holajonathan on Sept 12, 2021 18:59:28 GMT -5
I bought this first one as "old stock leopardskin" from Mexico. Looks more like wildflower rhyolite to me. Opinions anyone? Tommy might have an opinion. I polished a corner of a slab and it polished well with minimal undercutting. Nothing like the new stock leopardskin I've bought. Well, my opinion is that your piece is a beautiful example of wildflowers rhyolite. Now, in the interest of full disclosure... I have a friend who does (did?) the northern CA gem show circuit selling slabs of many different types of quality rocks. One day I ran into him at a show and he had a bin of a very unusual and colorful orbicular material and it caught my eye so I asked him what it was. He had no idea but he knew it was from Mexico and it was simply labeled "orbicular rhyolite." After studying it we agreed it wasn't leopardskin - the pattern is completely different - and I made the comment that it looked like wildflowers. Anyway, I bought all the slabs he had and a few end pieces he had cut the slabs from and I started cabbing and selling it as wildflowers rhyolite. Every time I'd see him a the next show I would ask if he had cut any more wildflowers and so he started calling it that too and that was that. So all I really know is it is an orbicular rhyolite from Mexico - as is leopardskin - so it's entirely possible that wildflowers is a variant of leopardskin or from the same region. I highly doubt however that it is "old stock" because my friend got it, and later got more for me, from a current mining source. Good info, Tommy. Thank you. I would like more similar material if it is still being mined and I could find a source for it. I didn't mean old stock in the sense that it's not being mined any more, but rather, that these particular rocks were mined a while ago. I can't tell you how old it is, but it had brittle, yellowed, peeling masking tape on it that said "Leopardskin Mex" How long does it take for masking tape to get brittle and yellow? Maybe only a decade. Who knows. I think I paid a little over $3 a pound for it, so new or old, I'm satisfied. (Buying rhyolite by the pound gets you a lot more rocks than buying something like tiger's eye by the pound!) I was recently talking with a Mexican rock dealer in Texas and he seemed to think that some of the Leopardskin that was being mined in the 80s and 90s polished better (higher or more evenly distributed silica content?) than the vast majority of it being sold today. He also mentioned that the yellow dominated material seems to be softer, red seem to be somewhat harder, and the red / green mash up is all over the map. Finally, he said that the "good old stuff" had a lot more color variation, but it wasn't as psychedelic as a lot of the material that has flooded the market in recent years. Just one opinion from one guy, but he's been selling Mexican rocks for something like 50 years, so he probably knows at least some small sliver of the full story.
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Post by jasoninsd on Sept 12, 2021 22:41:27 GMT -5
Genius!
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Post by fernwood on Sept 13, 2021 10:48:21 GMT -5
Those are beautiful, the Non-Montana Agates.
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Post by holajonathan on Sept 13, 2021 12:47:19 GMT -5
Those are beautiful, the Non-Montana Agates. They call them "river agates," but they are clearly not river worn. They look like they were mined directly out of a softer matrix because the outside of the rocks has the perfect imprint of the matrix with absolutely no wear or weathering. And yet I can't find any matrix stuck to any pieces. So their origin is a mystery to me, except that they come from Madagascar. I am interested in knowing more about them, but I have't been able to find any good info online.
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