Over View In SoCal.....Permit Needed To Rake Your Lawn.....!
Sept 24, 2021 13:11:04 GMT -5
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Post by pizzano on Sept 24, 2021 13:11:04 GMT -5
As to my "unhealthy" affection for Civil Engineering.......lol
The profession has been solely responsible for the monetary enrichment aspect(s) of my life since 1978..........stemming from those days in my youth working the ground I stood upon using "practical" applications.......wondering about and if there were/was another way to approach the "trial and error" aspects of gravity fed drainage systems commonly practiced by so many farmers I was raised with......it was the 60's, we all were poor, mostly high school educated at best, hard working salt of the earth folks..........and even though most successfully put food on the table and raised families.....storm water events set all of us back months in the planning and planting, causing even more economic headaches we seemed to never be prepared for.......!
So, my young life's experiences and interests took me to academics and public service as the path to better understand and put to use more than "practical" application to solve and and resolve....and better prepare for Mother Natures ever occurring adventures.......call that "unhealthy" if you will, but my service and dedication to the Profession has saved and made possible, many happy lives in the process....even farmers.......lol
holajonathan, and many others across our nation, who apply "practical application" to prepare/solve/resolve and manage the natural event occurrences, should be recognized for their achievements.......after all, it's worked for humanity since the beginning of time......that is, until it doesn't work, no longer the most efficient, safe, healthy or otherwise "rational" methodology.....and that all varies or is predicated on where one lives, ones needs and environmental requirements/regulations.
In places where domestic, potable water tables are constantly under demand restrictions, influenced by drought and sensitive to contamination.......like damn near all of the Southwest States open space and urban/rural environments........we just can't take it upon ourselves to "push & shove" storm water/snow pack discharge off onto our neighbors properties, adjacent dedicated wetlands (where are those now), or into an existing storm water, septic or waste water facility, regardless whether or not it is a "public" facility......!
Here's a few snaps of the world where I exist taken in July of 2021.......:
Looking Northeast or the Northwest side of the San Bernardino National Forest....I'm standing at approx. 3000' sea level at the west end of town..:
One would notice, no heavy forest ranges, no densely populated "amazon" terrain, no old snow caps........no water anywhere.......! And yet, though considered a "Mediterranean" climate up until the late 90's, it's always been a very arid, dessert condition place, way before the 50's......and storm water/discharge/contamination management has always been a seasonal issue.........wells are practically non-existent today, relying mostly on man-made earthen berm or above ground reservoir application... retention/retaining basins required everywhere......sensitive to contamination from agriculture and asphalt/concrete covered land developed run-off.
So, there you have it........California is not alone.......those of you folks who deal with more (more than seasonal) natural occurring storm events than you can handle......sure, we'd love to take your water, contaminated or otherwise.....but where do we put it without dedicating even more open space to dams and reservoirs.... we live less than 60mi from the ocean, everything we discharge in this valley quickly gravitates, at an average of just less than 1%, to the sea......and we consume more than 85% of what we collect from seasonal storm and snow pack.
I'm sorry, those of us who manage the elements here, can no longer consider "practical" methodology to harvest, control or otherwise distribute any kind of water we deal with.......our farmers have become hydrologists and mechanical engineers.......just calculating 1ac/per foot (a football field holds approx. 326,000 standing gallons of water), observing creeks beds, surface flow direction/speed, collecting/analyzing precipitation quantities using a udometer, ombrometer, hyetometer, although very useful tools..........just don't cut it anymore in my world.
The profession has been solely responsible for the monetary enrichment aspect(s) of my life since 1978..........stemming from those days in my youth working the ground I stood upon using "practical" applications.......wondering about and if there were/was another way to approach the "trial and error" aspects of gravity fed drainage systems commonly practiced by so many farmers I was raised with......it was the 60's, we all were poor, mostly high school educated at best, hard working salt of the earth folks..........and even though most successfully put food on the table and raised families.....storm water events set all of us back months in the planning and planting, causing even more economic headaches we seemed to never be prepared for.......!
So, my young life's experiences and interests took me to academics and public service as the path to better understand and put to use more than "practical" application to solve and and resolve....and better prepare for Mother Natures ever occurring adventures.......call that "unhealthy" if you will, but my service and dedication to the Profession has saved and made possible, many happy lives in the process....even farmers.......lol
holajonathan, and many others across our nation, who apply "practical application" to prepare/solve/resolve and manage the natural event occurrences, should be recognized for their achievements.......after all, it's worked for humanity since the beginning of time......that is, until it doesn't work, no longer the most efficient, safe, healthy or otherwise "rational" methodology.....and that all varies or is predicated on where one lives, ones needs and environmental requirements/regulations.
In places where domestic, potable water tables are constantly under demand restrictions, influenced by drought and sensitive to contamination.......like damn near all of the Southwest States open space and urban/rural environments........we just can't take it upon ourselves to "push & shove" storm water/snow pack discharge off onto our neighbors properties, adjacent dedicated wetlands (where are those now), or into an existing storm water, septic or waste water facility, regardless whether or not it is a "public" facility......!
Here's a few snaps of the world where I exist taken in July of 2021.......:
Looking Northeast or the Northwest side of the San Bernardino National Forest....I'm standing at approx. 3000' sea level at the west end of town..:
One would notice, no heavy forest ranges, no densely populated "amazon" terrain, no old snow caps........no water anywhere.......! And yet, though considered a "Mediterranean" climate up until the late 90's, it's always been a very arid, dessert condition place, way before the 50's......and storm water/discharge/contamination management has always been a seasonal issue.........wells are practically non-existent today, relying mostly on man-made earthen berm or above ground reservoir application... retention/retaining basins required everywhere......sensitive to contamination from agriculture and asphalt/concrete covered land developed run-off.
So, there you have it........California is not alone.......those of you folks who deal with more (more than seasonal) natural occurring storm events than you can handle......sure, we'd love to take your water, contaminated or otherwise.....but where do we put it without dedicating even more open space to dams and reservoirs.... we live less than 60mi from the ocean, everything we discharge in this valley quickly gravitates, at an average of just less than 1%, to the sea......and we consume more than 85% of what we collect from seasonal storm and snow pack.
I'm sorry, those of us who manage the elements here, can no longer consider "practical" methodology to harvest, control or otherwise distribute any kind of water we deal with.......our farmers have become hydrologists and mechanical engineers.......just calculating 1ac/per foot (a football field holds approx. 326,000 standing gallons of water), observing creeks beds, surface flow direction/speed, collecting/analyzing precipitation quantities using a udometer, ombrometer, hyetometer, although very useful tools..........just don't cut it anymore in my world.