darcyj76
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Post by darcyj76 on Nov 15, 2021 20:46:12 GMT -5
Hello!
I am VERY unfamiliar with tools of any kind-I am impressed that I can work my rock tumblers, that is how unfamiliar I am!
Is there a tool of some sort that I can use on rocks I am tumbling to get out some of the pits that remain after being in grit one for awhile? I don’t want to shrink the rock into dust by tumbling too much, but I don’t want to move it on with pits!
Please use simple words and talk to me like I am a first grader 😂
Thank you!! Darcy
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Post by Son Of Beach on Nov 15, 2021 20:53:49 GMT -5
Hello! I am VERY unfamiliar with tools of any kind-I am impressed that I can work my rock tumblers, that is how unfamiliar I am! Is there a tool of some sort that I can use on rocks I am tumbling to get out some of the pits that remain after being in grit one for awhile? I don’t want to shrink the rock into dust by tumbling too much, but I don’t want to move it on with pits! Please use simple words and talk to me like I am a first grader 😂 Thank you!! Darcy darcyj76 Most of the time if there is pitting all over the rock after weeks of tumbling, no tumbling will fix that problem. The rock itself is the issue and will just continue to pit. For rocks that have imperfections like steep points or valleys that will take longer to tumble out... a tile saw or even a dremel with a cutting wheel will help even out the tumbling surface. If they are pits that seem to get better week after week perhaps they need to tumble more. Some rocks need weeks (4+) to get rid of small imperfections. Do you know what material you are tumbling, I feel like knowing, or better yet seeing, what you are tumbling will help with your question. Some rocks just don't tumble well.
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darcyj76
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Post by darcyj76 on Nov 15, 2021 21:40:37 GMT -5
Hello! I mostly tumble jasper and agate, and I generally keep them in grit 1 for 4-6 weeks. I am looking for something to help when there is that one stubborn shallow hole left, but the rest of the rock is perfect, if that makes sense? Or like you said, to even out a sharp point, that kind of situation! Hello! I am VERY unfamiliar with tools of any kind-I am impressed that I can work my rock tumblers, that is how unfamiliar I am! Is there a tool of some sort that I can use on rocks I am tumbling to get out some of the pits that remain after being in grit one for awhile? I don’t want to shrink the rock into dust by tumbling too much, but I don’t want to move it on with pits! Please use simple words and talk to me like I am a first grader 😂 Thank you!! Darcy darcyj76 Most of the time if there is pitting all over the rock after weeks of tumbling, no tumbling will fix that problem. The rock itself is the issue and will just continue to pit. For rocks that have imperfections like steep points or valleys that will take longer to tumble out... a tile saw or even a dremel with a cutting wheel will help even out the tumbling surface. If they are pits that seem to get better week after week perhaps they need to tumble more. Some rocks need weeks (4+) to get rid of small imperfections. Do you know what material you are tumbling, I feel like knowing, or better yet seeing, what you are tumbling will help with your question. Some rocks just don't tumble well.
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Post by RWA3006 on Nov 24, 2021 19:04:52 GMT -5
Hello! I mostly tumble jasper and agate, and I generally keep them in grit 1 for 4-6 weeks. I am looking for something to help when there is that one stubborn shallow hole left, but the rest of the rock is perfect, if that makes sense? Or like you said, to even out a sharp point, that kind of situation! darcyj76 Most of the time if there is pitting all over the rock after weeks of tumbling, no tumbling will fix that problem. The rock itself is the issue and will just continue to pit. For rocks that have imperfections like steep points or valleys that will take longer to tumble out... a tile saw or even a dremel with a cutting wheel will help even out the tumbling surface. If they are pits that seem to get better week after week perhaps they need to tumble more. Some rocks need weeks (4+) to get rid of small imperfections. Do you know what material you are tumbling, I feel like knowing, or better yet seeing, what you are tumbling will help with your question. Some rocks just don't tumble well. Hi, there a several pieces of equipment that you can use to take care of these problem areas. First of all I've had best luck by identifying these areas before I start the tumbling process and then I grind out the flaws before putting them into step one. I just take a wild guess at these problem spots. Equipment you can use for preemptive grinding could be a tile saw, dremel tool, cabbing machine, or my favorite is a home made super grinder. The idea is to target problem areas with fast grinding equipment before wasting time with a slow polishing procedure.
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darcyj76
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Post by darcyj76 on Dec 18, 2021 11:29:03 GMT -5
Preemptive grinding!! I never even thought of that, that is brilliant! I bought a dremel, and have since learned the bits that come with it are useless! My next purchase will be a diamond bit? Any recommendations on the exact bit I should buy?
Thank you so much for your input!
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Post by perkins17 on Dec 18, 2021 11:35:48 GMT -5
Preemptive grinding!! I never even thought of that, that is brilliant! I bought a dremel, and have since learned the bits that come with it are useless! My next purchase will be a diamond bit? Any recommendations on the exact bit I should buy? Thank you so much for your input! Hello Darcy. Welcome to the forum. You can get diamond points from Kingsley North that come in different shapes and sizes. I personally haven't used them but figured I would try to help. Hope the helps!
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Post by RWA3006 on Dec 18, 2021 14:54:10 GMT -5
Preemptive grinding!! I never even thought of that, that is brilliant! I bought a dremel, and have since learned the bits that come with it are useless! My next purchase will be a diamond bit? Any recommendations on the exact bit I should buy? Thank you so much for your input! There's a few folks around here who have a lot of experience using dremels for cabbing and they would have good advice for you. My feeble memory seems to point me to jasoninsd or miket
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Post by miket on Dec 18, 2021 15:57:43 GMT -5
I use these, the bits that come with the dremel are pretty useless...
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Post by stardiamond on Dec 18, 2021 16:46:05 GMT -5
Clearisil
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 18, 2021 19:57:22 GMT -5
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LazerFlash
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Post by LazerFlash on Dec 18, 2021 20:40:43 GMT -5
I use these, the bits that come with the dremel are pretty useless...
That's quite an assortment of diamond bits... Who makes/sells that?
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Post by miket on Dec 19, 2021 0:47:32 GMT -5
I use these, the bits that come with the dremel are pretty useless...
That's quite an assortment of diamond bits... Who makes/sells that? They're on e Amazon and Ebay, pretty cheap.
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LazerFlash
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Post by LazerFlash on Dec 19, 2021 13:52:50 GMT -5
They're on Amazon and Ebay, pretty cheap. Okay... I thought so. I've seen them offered by a couple of different sellers.
I do have to ask, how often do you need to replace them? The one knock that I've seen is that the diamond coating wears off pretty quickly.
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Post by miket on Dec 19, 2021 14:32:01 GMT -5
They're on Amazon and Ebay, pretty cheap. Okay... I thought so. I've seen them offered by a couple of different sellers.
I do have to ask, how often do you need to replace them? The one knock that I've seen is that the diamond coating wears off pretty quickly.They don't last too long, but they're relatively inexpensive. Plus, if I can sell one pendant it more than covers the cost. Another thing, I only use the wheel burrs.
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LazerFlash
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Post by LazerFlash on Dec 19, 2021 14:38:06 GMT -5
I do have to ask, how often do you need to replace them? The one knock that I've seen is that the diamond coating wears off pretty quickly. They don't last too long, but they're relatively inexpensive. Plus, if I can sell one pendant it more than covers the cost. Another thing, I only use the wheel burrs.I seem to recall that one of the questions asked to one of the Amazon sellers was regarding the creation of "custom sets" that only included the bits the potential buyer wanted. The response from the seller was a definite affirmative. You might consider asking the same thing.
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Post by LazerFlash on Dec 21, 2021 16:04:01 GMT -5
jasoninsd , I do not live near a Menards, (although my daughter up in MI does). It also kinda galls me to pay almost as much in S&H for such as small item as the item itself, so I'm looking for it elsewhere.
I have found something with an identical picture on the Harbor Freight website. Can you tell me the manufacturer name on yours? The one from Harbor Freight is "Warrior". (But, since HF tends to rebrand virtually everything in the stores, that really means nothing.)
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Post by Son Of Beach on Dec 21, 2021 16:32:02 GMT -5
Okay... I thought so. I've seen them offered by a couple of different sellers.
I do have to ask, how often do you need to replace them? The one knock that I've seen is that the diamond coating wears off pretty quickly. They don't last too long, but they're relatively inexpensive. Plus, if I can sell one pendant it more than covers the cost. Another thing, I only use the wheel burrs. I picked up the same set miket is talking about last weekend at Harbor Freight. I think I paid 20 bucks. I'm sure it's cheaper online, but hard to beat Harbor Freight prices lol www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/rotary-oscillating-tools/rotary-tool-accessories/50-pc-diamond-rotary-point-set-69665.html
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 21, 2021 16:51:28 GMT -5
jasoninsd , I do not live near a Menards, (although my daughter up in MI does). It also kinda galls me to pay almost as much in S&H for such as small item as the item itself, so I'm looking for it elsewhere.
I have found something with an identical picture on the Harbor Freight website. Can you tell me the manufacturer name on yours? The one from Harbor Freight is "Warrior". (But, since HF tends to rebrand virtually everything in the stores, that really means nothing.)
I went to go check the package out in the garage...and wouldn't you know it, I cut the top of the plastic package off to open it, and cut off the brand name! I looked up the item on Harbor Freight...it's definitely the same thing. The ones from Menards aren't "hight end", and I'm sure they all came from China at some point. (I can't say China anymore without saying it like Trump..."Chiyna!" LOL) Anyway, the ones from Harbor Freight are going to be the same. www.harborfreight.com/large-diamond-rotary-grinding-wheel-set-4-pc-69658.html
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