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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 30, 2021 18:43:34 GMT -5
Hey now! That's what I do. LOL! But I will have you know that I am branching out. Just today, I cut to size a bunch of textured papers to try for backgrounds.  An old dog CAN learn new tricks and I'm trying.
I got one of these for my cell phone. I sent my light tent and lights to the Salvation Army and I'm trying to do something with my big Nikon DSLR. It's still worth about 600 and I have all the stuff and an extra lens. I can't just toss it. My point was that Jason's skills are broader than he gives himself credit for. I agree with you there!
My brother in law is a nuclear engineer at an accelerator. He never even thought about art because he has a "math brain". But, just for grins and giggles he began drawing and it turns out that he is actually quite gifted. (Which really pisses me off! It's not fair that he can draw well AND do complicated math. LOL!) He surprised himself and draws everyday now. |
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Post by holajonathan on Dec 30, 2021 18:45:40 GMT -5
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Post by rockjunquie on Dec 30, 2021 18:47:27 GMT -5
rockjunquie I really like the wraps in your photos. I have never tried to wrap any rocks, but your post (and others) have piqued my interest. Any tips on learning what I need and how to do it? Well, those are broad questions. My best advice would be to get some copper wire, a few pairs of pliers and try some tutorials. There are some here and lots of them on YT. There's a lot of styles of wire wrapping, so I can't even tell you what kind of wire to get without knowing what you're aiming for. There is a sticky in the wire wrapping section on tools, too. What I do is called traditional border wrapping
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 30, 2021 20:17:39 GMT -5
Last thing: I bet you will do amazing work with the French curve templates. There is a sort of technical-creative approach that would seem perfect for you. Taking photographs is sort of a techinical-creative skill, and you've gotten good at that. If you were totally uncreative, you would just photograph cabs from straight above on a white background. Your photos have a lot more flair than that. I missed this post. Thank you so much for the compliments.  I'm actually going to be ordering some French Curves later tonight probably. I really can't wait to use them to be honest... I noticed that inside curve at the top too... I was thinking about "inside swoops" yesterday. While I think they really add a nice "flair" to a cab, and can be very visually appealing...they're going to be a sonofagun to wire-wrap. It would look great in a setting...but with wrapping, inside curves don't work well. I have an idea of something I'm going to try with the shapes I'm making...we'll end up seeing if it works. To me, the big inside swoops are sort of a novelty and a fun way to show off flashy material. It would be cool to make couple, but from what I've heard, wrapping them is somewhere between "no fun" and "not possible." Since the color of sheen obsidian sort of changes with the curve of the dome, a big inside swoop might create a cool visual effect. Yeah...the inside swoops are on that Velvet Obsidian...so I'm curious to see what the effect is going to be (if any)... jasoninsd I just realized that I've had this same conversation about 100 times with my wife. We both like to cook. I haven't used a recipe in years. When I want to make something new, I usually read different recipes online, and then I just make something up, allowing myself to be inspired by the recipes that I read, but not following any one in particular. Sometimes this turns out great. Other times it gets fed to the cats or the birds, and we eat frozen pizza, instead. My wife, on the other hand, is 100% recipe dependent. She looks for recipes that list all ingredients in weight, since she considers volumetric measurements (like 1 cup) to be imprecise for everything except liquid. Our conversations go like this: Her: Why does it say 1/2 cup of raisins? I don't even know what that means. How much am I supposed to pack the measuring cup? Me: It doesn't matter. Just add as many raisins as you want. Her: If it didn't matter, the recipe wouldn't say 1/2 cup. Me: A recipe is just someone else's suggestion. Moses did not bring down a tablet from the mountains that said: "Banana raisin bread shall have 1/2 cups of raisins." Her: If I don't follow the recipe it won't taste good. Me: It might taste even better. You'll never know unless you try. Her: No, it won't. One time I tried to change a recipe and it was a complete disaster. I am not one of those people who can just change recipes. Me: Just try it. It won't hurt. Use the basic liquid to flour ratio in the recipe, and then add whatever ingredients you like. Nuts, raisins, chocolate chips, shredded coconut, whatever... Her: No. Me: Leave the room for a minute, and I will measure the raisins and add them to the batter. Her: You are treating me like a child. Me: It's just banana bread. Who cares. This is crazy. Her: I don't know why they can't just put the weight in the recipe. Me: Even if they put a weight, once you open the container of raisins, they start to dry out, so the same weight would actually give you more raisins. Her: I'm never making banana raisin bread again. ***Six months later*** Her: So I made this bread today. I'm pretty sure it's not going to taste good, but you're not going to believe what I did. Me: What did you do? Her: Instead of raisins, I used craisins -- dried cranberries. Me: Sounds good. So you deviated from the recipe? Her: No, I found another recipe that was almost identical, except it says to use craisins. I had to run into town with my wife as she wanted to check out a new winter jacket at Tractor Supply. My phone dinged, so I opted to see what the ding was about as I figured it had to be interesting than outer wear. That's when I read this post...and was laughing out loud in the middle of Tractor Supply! LOL You're right though...it's basically the same conversation! LOL I never could figure out how to use the French Curve. DH has them and can use them, though. Maybe I need a lesson from him.
YES, inside curves are a pain to wrap but can actually be done fairly successfully.
These were a custom job for Jeff. These are Paul's cabs.
jasoninsd If you ever want to wrap an inside curve and need help just PM me.
Tela, these are amazing! I really didn't think it was possible to get the inside curve of the wire to shape like that! I will definitely be getting ahold of you after I've got the cabs done...successfully. Hey now! That's what I do. LOL! But I will have you know that I am branching out. Just today, I cut to size a bunch of textured papers to try for backgrounds. An old dog CAN learn new tricks and I'm trying.
I got one of these for my cell phone. I sent my light tent and lights to the Salvation Army and I'm trying to do something with my big Nikon DSLR. It's still worth about 600 and I have all the stuff and an extra lens. I can't just toss it. It depends on the purpose of the photos. Your photo approach look professional, in the sense that they accurately portray the shape and colors of the cab -- very important if you are selling cabs to jewelry makers. For cab glamour shots, I like Jason's approach since it shows off the dome and polish better. I take both types of photos. My point was that Jason's skills are broader than he gives himself credit for. I will agree I'm very hard on myself. I have the desire to strive for perfection in things like this hobby (all aspects). And when I don't achieve perfection, I feel like I'm falling short of where I "need" or want to be. I fully understand perfection is unachievable...or so they say...but when I see other people's work and what they're able to achieve, it shows me that I can do even better than what I have to this point. |
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Post by holajonathan on Dec 30, 2021 20:47:02 GMT -5
jasoninsdEvery time I see the words French Curves I think you're talking about an adult movie.
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Post by hypodactylus on Dec 30, 2021 21:05:20 GMT -5
rockjunquie I really like the wraps in your photos. I have never tried to wrap any rocks, but your post (and others) have piqued my interest. Any tips on learning what I need and how to do it? Well, those are broad questions. My best advice would be to get some copper wire, a few pairs of pliers and try some tutorials. There are some here and lots of them on YT. There's a lot of styles of wire wrapping, so I can't even tell you what kind of wire to get without knowing what you're aiming for. There is a sticky in the wire wrapping section on tools, too. What I do is called traditional border wrapping
Haha, indeed. I usually do research first then ask questions; I guess I was feeling spontaneous 😉. I don't know what I am aiming for yet, but I will take a look. Thanks! |
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Post by stephan on Jan 4, 2022 0:13:51 GMT -5
Holy crap! How’d I miss these? Oh,yeah… probably working. Some real beauties there.
French curves can really help with designing freeforms when you are first experimenting. I’ve also used for some symmetrical shapes.
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Post by stephan on Jan 4, 2022 0:21:42 GMT -5
jasoninsd Every time I see the words French Curves I think you're talking about an adult movie. How about Swedish curves?  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 4, 2022 1:59:00 GMT -5
Holy crap! How’d I miss these? Oh,yeah… probably working. Some real beauties there. French curves can really help with designing freeforms when you are first experimenting. I’ve also used for some symmetrical shapes. Thanks Stephan! I wondered why you hadn't said anything about these...I just figured you were busy working on your tan out there in California! LOL (I know better! ) I know my cutting is going to be minimal for the next couple months, but I do need to get some French Curves ordered one of these days pretty soon! jasoninsd Every time I see the words French Curves I think you're talking about an adult movie. How about Swedish curves?  I was just thumbing through the TV channels to see if there was anything on...I think I saw this on demand! LOL |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 4, 2022 9:25:48 GMT -5
Holy crap! How’d I miss these? Oh,yeah… probably working. Some real beauties there. French curves can really help with designing freeforms when you are first experimenting. I’ve also used for some symmetrical shapes. Thanks Stephan!  I wondered why you hadn't said anything about these...I just figured you were busy working on your tan out there in California! LOL (I know better!  ) I know my cutting is going to be minimal for the next couple months, but I do need to get some French Curves ordered one of these days pretty soon! Just stop at Wally's World the next time you're in town. They have them. |
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Post by stephan on Jan 4, 2022 9:41:01 GMT -5
jasoninsd this winter we’re not tanning… we’re rusting.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 4, 2022 9:47:21 GMT -5
Thanks Stephan! I wondered why you hadn't said anything about these...I just figured you were busy working on your tan out there in California! LOL (I know better! ) I know my cutting is going to be minimal for the next couple months, but I do need to get some French Curves ordered one of these days pretty soon! Just stop at Wally's World the next time you're in town. They have them. Crap! That means I have to go INTO that place! LOL There's a listing on eBay for a set of 12 (different curves) for $13 shipped...I just need to hit the buy it now button! LOL EDIT: I just bought them...  jasoninsd this winter we’re not tanning… we’re rusting.  |
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Post by stephan on Jan 4, 2022 11:09:12 GMT -5
More my lower back today
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Post by holajonathan on Jan 4, 2022 13:36:36 GMT -5
jasoninsd this winter we’re not tanning… we’re rusting. Rusting? A reference to precipitation? About time, right? I saw a news story about 6' of snow falling in the mountains of California (in one storm). I realize those are largely uninhabited areas, but still, that is nuts. It sounds like a horror movie, and this coming from someone who lived for a time in the Keweenaw Peninsula (western UP) of Michigan, where the average annual snowfall is around 17 feet. Some houses had a stairway going to the second floor so they could get inside when snow covered up the first floor entry. That might be a good sign that people aren't supposed to live in that climate... |
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Post by stephan on Jan 4, 2022 15:32:40 GMT -5
jasoninsd this winter we’re not tanning… we’re rusting. Rusting? A reference to precipitation? About time, right? I saw a news story about 6' of snow falling in the mountains of California (in one storm). I realize those are largely uninhabited areas, but still, that is nuts. It sounds like a horror movie, and this coming from someone who lived for a time in the Keweenaw Peninsula (western UP) of Michigan, where the average annual snowfall is around 17 feet. Some houses had a stairway going to the second floor so they could get inside when snow covered up the first floor entry. That might be a good sign that people aren't supposed to live in that climate... Yup, we've (finally) gotten a good amount of rain, here in the Valley. Season-to-date, we're sitting at around 200% of normal, but unless it keeps going, we'll still be low by the time our rainy season ends (pretty much by March, with some sporadic rainfall in April, usually). When the precipitation doesn't miss us (usually by going North of us or falling over the ocean), we can get pretty good snowfall in the mountains -- accumulations of 18-20 feet is what's needed to fill reservoirs during a normal year. Right now, we could probably use twice that, from a water perspective. One of my co-workers (who lives maybe 45 minutes from here) has not had power for a week and a half, and is not expected to get it back until Saturday. That's only about half-way up the mountains. Donner Pass/Truckee, where people must pass through to get to Lake Tahoe really got pummeled (that's probably the spot that got 6 feet). I think with almost 8 billion of us, we've got far more people living in places that aren't ideal. |
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