waterboysh
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Post by waterboysh on Feb 9, 2022 10:14:03 GMT -5
I ordered some Mahogany Obsidian to tumble. Here's an album of what I've got. Unfortunately, it's a bit to big for the tumbler. I'd like each piece broken up into at least 2 or 3 smaller pieces. But I'm not sure how to do this, considering it's glass. I wish I had a saw; I'd just cut it (I assume that would work anyway).
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Post by rmf on Feb 9, 2022 16:45:52 GMT -5
A hammer with leather gloves and eye protection works fine. If you have a piece of steel like short piece of rail track as an anvil. I would say long sleeves, jeans. Hard toed shows depending on size of hammer and your coordination level.
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saxplayer
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Post by saxplayer on Feb 9, 2022 16:52:44 GMT -5
As said above, MUST have good googles. Thick gloves. I would recommend a hammer by hand, and try and find something solid enough to sit in front of your legs. I broke up all my obsidian, but even with leather gloves I had pieces stuck into my hand. Small slivers actually. My shins were bloody from my jeans getting small pieces through them - hence my rec for the solid material in front of you. Wear a long sleeve shirt.
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waterboysh
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Post by waterboysh on Feb 9, 2022 17:39:38 GMT -5
Do y'all think it would be helpful to score around them with the Dremel?
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Post by brybry on Feb 9, 2022 18:13:45 GMT -5
If you have a dog food bag or plastic feed bag, throw in it and smack it on a concrete slab, driveway etc. That'll break it, might take a few swings but the bag will help keep the shards from flying.
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hypodactylus
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Post by hypodactylus on Feb 9, 2022 21:32:25 GMT -5
Do y'all think it would be helpful to score around them with the Dremel? Without a saw, I would score it deep with the Dremel; then I would use a hammer and chisel. This should help you control the breakage and not end up with a bunch of pieces you don't like. As others have said, wear protection (eyes, skin, lungs). Also, obsidian shrinks faster in the tumbler than agate/jasper; so, don't make them too small. Good luck!
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Post by rmf on Feb 10, 2022 4:21:13 GMT -5
Do y'all think it would be helpful to score around them with the Dremel? no
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Post by rmf on Feb 10, 2022 4:23:42 GMT -5
I like the bag idea. If you get to Chattanooga I have a rock crusher.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 10, 2022 12:36:46 GMT -5
A big chunk is easier to work with when using a hammer. Dividing smaller pieces in to halves and thirds often damages a large portion of the stock. Yes, a good application for a saw.
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Post by Fossilman on Feb 15, 2022 13:35:38 GMT -5
Obsidian is easy to break if you know it's fracture points on the material... I just use a chipping hammer and a glove, tap it where you want it broke.. Those are manageable pieces to break ..
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waterboysh
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Post by waterboysh on Feb 15, 2022 16:53:25 GMT -5
I meant to come post an update. I scored around it as deep as I could with my Dremel where I wanted it to break, put a chisel in the gap, and lightly tapped it with a hammer and it broke right where I wanted it to every time. So that method worked really well.
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Post by rockbrain on Feb 15, 2022 20:41:32 GMT -5
I did a google search and kept reading stuff about obsidian being nearly indestructible and needing a diamond tipped or nephrite pick ax. I was confused until after glancing at several articles I finally realized almost everything that came up was about the video game Minecraft. (besides being nearly indestructible obsidian in Minecraft can also be used for traveling to another dimension.
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Post by Bob on Feb 16, 2022 11:06:49 GMT -5
I ordered some Mahogany Obsidian to tumble. Here's an album of what I've got. Unfortunately, it's a bit to big for the tumbler. I'd like each piece broken up into at least 2 or 3 smaller pieces. But I'm not sure how to do this, considering it's glass. I wish I had a saw; I'd just cut it (I assume that would work anyway). A few years ago, I purchased quite a bit of obsidian in pieces lemon to cantaloupe size. I tried various methods of cleaving with hammer and chisel but almost every time it would not go the way I hoped and often would break sideways in a way I didn't want at all. So I gave up and kept the large pieces to figure out later. Since then I got a saw and it's so soft and easy to trim any way I want! It's almost like sawing a piece of hard candy rather than a rock. If you can find someone or a rock club with a saw it will be time well spent. Not until I was about to press send on this message, did I suddenly have the thought that obsidian is so soft that one of those carbide-edged flat hacksaw blades might do well with it.
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waterboysh
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Post by waterboysh on Feb 16, 2022 11:29:12 GMT -5
rockbrain between all the Minecraft stuff and the "obsidian meaning, uses, and healing properties" stuff I was having a hard time finding anything relevant and useful to what I was looking for.
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Post by Bob on Feb 16, 2022 14:31:27 GMT -5
rockbrain between all the Minecraft stuff and the "obsidian meaning, uses, and healing properties" stuff I was having a hard time finding anything relevant and useful to what I was looking for. Boy, can I relate to that! It has happened to me with several other materials. I have found that sometimes adding some or all of the words "lapidary" "rough" "rough rock" to a search can help.
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rockbrain
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Post by rockbrain on Feb 16, 2022 15:36:52 GMT -5
Yep, I had to add lapidary to get anywhere.
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Post by Bob on Feb 21, 2022 12:42:29 GMT -5
Perhaps the greatest learning surprise for me after getting into rock tumbling is that glass/obsidian is so soft! All my life, I had just presumed glass was super hard stuff. Every time I had waded barefoot in a river I was always scared of stepping on some broken beer bottle that might have been in that river for hours, or days, or years or decades. But it never happened and I was always puzzled by this even though relieved.
I live in Oklahoma and among several major east-west sand bottom rivers, the Arkansas, the N and S Canadians, and the Cimarron. Since tumbling, I've paid more attention to areas that have more broken glass in them after 4th of July parties and such. Now I've noticed that just days later downstream the glass no longer has hard edges.
And of course in the tumbler I was shocked at how quickly glass and obsidian can "disappear". Then when I got my lapidary saw and cut my first piece of obsidian, it sawed so easily it felt like cutting through a piece of hard candy. Obsidian seems even softer to me when sawing than most manmade glass.
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afterburnt
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Post by afterburnt on Feb 21, 2022 13:00:00 GMT -5
rockbrain between all the Minecraft stuff and the "obsidian meaning, uses, and healing properties" stuff I was having a hard time finding anything relevant and useful to what I was looking for. Not only is this hobby fun and educational, I got my chakras and auras aligned!
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