tumbleburger
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Post by tumbleburger on Feb 28, 2022 18:33:29 GMT -5
Newby tumbler here - Thanks to everyone who suggested a cheap tile saw for breaking up larger rocks. Problem I am having now is that after buying some beautiful agate nodules and cutting them up I'm finding that weeks of rough tumbling in my 3lb tumbler isn't making a huge dent in some of the more deeply pitted skins but IS ending putting deep cracks through some of the more beautiful faces I'm able to expose with the tile saw. I feel stuck between being too rough or just giving up and tolerating deep grimy pits on some of the pieces. Will try and post photos within the thread for reference. a) am I just out of luck and need to deal or get a grinder? b) is there something wrong with the balance of sizes I'm using? May try running the more pitted stones with 60/90 and some 2mm spheres and seeing if the spheres get down in the pits c) do I need to run the rougher whole nodules intact for weeks before splitting to wear away the skins? I don't have a 15lb tumbler. d) is there something else I can try to deal with these? Just got a Dremel, maybe I need to grind the gunk out of the pits with a diamond bit?
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jimmie
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Post by jimmie on Feb 28, 2022 20:01:36 GMT -5
It takes a while to get the outer skin smooth. I cut nodules, then rough tumble. Then I sand the faces , to get rid of saw marks. Then it’s into the lot-o or thumler for final polish. I have some moctezumas that have been rough tumbling going on a month and still not smooth. I didn’t cut them, wanted a different look. Them bumpy ass nodules take a long time, sounds like your doing everything right. They still get a good shine with some of the rough skin left on,
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Post by Peruano on Feb 28, 2022 20:08:25 GMT -5
Boy, I'd say you are expecting a lot of a tumbler to get rid of those deep pits and imperfections. I'd say you would need better material or a lot of time in which these stones would be reduced greatly in size. Where are you and do you have self collected material? I'd be inclined to look for material that has less surface imperfections and then move to the rough stuff as you are inclined. You need to start on the top of the hill, not the bottom.
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brybry
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Post by brybry on Feb 28, 2022 20:35:01 GMT -5
If you have a tile saw, you can use the side/edge to do some grinding.
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tumbleburger
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Post by tumbleburger on Feb 28, 2022 21:39:16 GMT -5
Boy, I'd say you are expecting a lot of a tumbler to get rid of those deep pits and imperfections. I'd say you would need better material or a lot of time in which these stones would be reduced greatly in size. Where are you and do you have self collected material? I'd be inclined to look for material that has less surface imperfections and then move to the rough stuff as you are inclined. You need to start on the top of the hill, not the bottom. I’m in Chicago but the nodules I’m struggling with are some Malawi and Laguna nodules I bought from The Gem Shop and HP Lapidary. Most are not as bad as those pictured but there are a few that have gorgeous cross sections (not shown in the photo) but still deeply pitted skins.
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Post by aDave on Feb 28, 2022 22:02:19 GMT -5
See what you can grind with the side of your tile saw blade.
Deep pits can be tumbled out, but only if you want to remove the corresponding material to get to that level. That's typically not a workable solution, as that really removes more than you want or need.
Just think of it this way. If you want to remove pits with "tumbling only", you'll have to remove that much material from the rock to get to the lowest level of the pit. That's typically not acceptable for most.
What are the options?
Grind individual spots to get a head start on things. Or...
Don't worry about the pits and just tumble. Rounded craters (pits) in you rock won't hold grit, so you'll be fine as far as contamination goes. Not every rock can be tumbled perfectly (no flaws). Just determine what works for you and go from there. The more you tumble, you will come to learn what rocks can be tumbled to absolute perfection and what rocks can't.
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