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Post by Starguy on Mar 13, 2022 20:13:34 GMT -5
Can it be done? In my haste to use the groove cutter, I shaped a preform with an inside curve. Half way through grooving it, I realized that tight wire would bridge the inside curve rather than conforming to the shape. I don’t know what I’m talking about but I thought maybe if I used epoxy through the offending curve it wouldn’t be a problem. I should have thought about the tangent between the outside curves but it slipped my pea brain. Here is the offending preform.  Luckily I have four other grooved preforms without this problem. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 13, 2022 20:21:56 GMT -5
Can it be done? In my haste to use the groove cutter, I shaped a preform with an inside curve. Half way through grooving it, I realized that tight wire would bridge the inside curve rather than conforming to the shape. I don’t know what I’m talking about but I thought maybe if I used epoxy through the offending curve it wouldn’t be a problem. I should have thought about the tangent between the outside curves but it slipped my pea brain. Here is the offending preform. Luckily I have four other grooved preforms without this problem. You should be able to wrap that. Make sure the wire forms into the groove of the curve well (maybe even burnish it in there well with a wood dopstick or something) and be extra conscientious about not pulling the wire too tight up at the top when you're doing the bail. You could put a few small drops of super glue in the groove if you want to be sure that the wire will stay. I'd use a toothpick to put the super glue in there unless you have really steady hands (unlike me). |
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 13, 2022 20:32:52 GMT -5
It definitely can be done...maybe you shouldn't have chosen it for your first one! LOL - You kind of just jump into the deep end my friend!  I'm positive I've seen some groove wrapped pieces in the archives that had an inside curve...I've looked at so many threads, so I might be just making it up! LOL |
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Post by Pat on Mar 13, 2022 21:08:55 GMT -5
Check Adrian’s threads. I think he has done such. Good luck. adrian65 |
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Post by adrian65 on Mar 13, 2022 22:38:47 GMT -5
Yes, it can be done. You just to have to bend the wire properly before getting it in that inside curve.
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Post by Starguy on Mar 14, 2022 19:04:58 GMT -5
It definitely can be done...maybe you shouldn't have chosen it for your first one! LOL - You kind of just jump into the deep end my friend!  I'm positive I've seen some groove wrapped pieces in the archives that had an inside curve...I've looked at so many threads, so I might be just making it up! LOL . It wasn’t my first groove. I definitely won’t choose it for my first wrap. Do you buy your spiral square wire or do you twist it yourself? |
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 14, 2022 19:16:55 GMT -5
It definitely can be done...maybe you shouldn't have chosen it for your first one! LOL - You kind of just jump into the deep end my friend! I'm positive I've seen some groove wrapped pieces in the archives that had an inside curve...I've looked at so many threads, so I might be just making it up! LOL . It wasn’t my first groove. I definitely won’t choose it for my first wrap. Do you buy your spiral square wire or do you twist it yourself? Dangit...I spoke incorrectly! LOL I do my own twisting. Up until the last couple days, I would put one end of the wire in a table-top vise, then the other end gripped with pliers, then twist it. But for the last couple days, I've been putting the other end in my cordless drill and doing it the "easy" way. |
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Post by Starguy on Mar 14, 2022 19:37:43 GMT -5
jasoninsd. How hard do you pull on the drill when you’re twisting your own? The info on RTH is so helpful.
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 14, 2022 20:16:35 GMT -5
jasoninsd . How hard do you pull on the drill when you’re twisting your own? The info on RTH is so helpful. Not super taught...just enough to keep the wire straight. On a scale from 1-10, probably a 1.284.  |
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 14, 2022 20:39:14 GMT -5
Get some Southern Hemisphere wire. Everything there runs backwards: even sinks drain counter-clockwise. It should lock in place automatically and easily. Jes' spoofin' - I don't wire-wrap and have no idea how it's done. But if such stuff existed it could be handy now and then. Makes me wonder how folks in the Antipodes would wrap outside curves though.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Mar 14, 2022 20:59:52 GMT -5
jasoninsd . It wasn’t my first groove. I definitely won’t choose it for my first wrap. Do you buy your spiral square wire or do you twist it yourself? Dangit...I spoke incorrectly! LOL I do my own twisting. Up until the last couple days, I would put one end of the wire in a table-top vise, then the other end gripped with pliers, then twist it. But for the last couple days, I've been putting the other end in my cordless drill and doing it the "easy" way. Yup, yup -- the cordless drill is the way to go! And if you ever really want to get fancy pantsy you can wrap 26 or 28 gauge around another wire the same way and on and on and on ..... |
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Post by 1dave on Mar 16, 2022 11:55:52 GMT -5
jasoninsd . How hard do you pull on the drill when you’re twisting your own? The info on RTH is so helpful. Not super taught...just enough to keep the wire straight. On a scale from 1-10, probably a 1.284.) (Pssst - Jason, I've watched you through the Amberchrome Perclase Elasitime Periscope (AKA APE). You usually do 3.428!) |
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Post by jasoninsd on Mar 16, 2022 15:46:40 GMT -5
Not super taught...just enough to keep the wire straight. On a scale from 1-10, probably a 1.284.) (Pssst - Jason, I've watched you through the Amberchrome Perclase Elasitime Periscope (AKA APE). You usually do 3.428!) You dug DEEP for that one Dave! LOL |
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